Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Joshua Coon]

if you spent 10 years worth of R+D efforts on your super duper hyper missile that goes very fast, you'll absolutely jump on the first opportunity to see it used on a real target.

I could just fire my hypersonic missile into the air. instead of a country. like I said nonsense take

 

[RedDelicious]

I could just fire my hypersonic missile into the air. instead of a country. like I said nonsense take

Is this a joke? It's real conflict against a weaker target, there's literally no better condition to try new tech that hasn't seen real wartime application yet. Defense ministers would normally fucking cum in their pants at the idea. "Firing it off into the air" isn't going to give you a fraction of the data and is an atom-brain take.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

At this point it's probably going to end with a land bridge being created between Crimea and the Donbass region being turned into a puppet state. Don't think the Odessa region will be puppeted since it was vital to pre-war Ukraine's economy, but now will be an outright requirement.

So basically the most entertaining ending, you'd get people saying that Russia totally planned for only taking a couple regions and not overthrowing the Ukrainian government at the cost of completely destroying any relations with North America and Europe plus some of Asia, where they will end up utterly completely dependent on China, and you'd get people acting like this was some supreme victory for Ukraine, despite the fact their economy will be in ruins, many people who became refugees will probably never return home as they won't have a home to return too, plus getting a large chunk of it annexed.

My belief is that Russia likely started with modest goals such as getting the water in the Dnieper canal turned on so Crimea stops dealing with a water crisis and getting recognition for the two separatist states, with the major diplomatic goal of making Ukraine neutral in an attempt to deter the NATO threat. The notion that this could turn into a meat grinder always being in their mind -- now that its here I don't think anyone knows what the Russians are aiming for and what their exit strategy and conditions are, not even Putin and his staff. If I had to guess, I would suspect that the Russians are likely going to capture everything east of the Dnieper and maybe fumble around with some nonsense around Odessa with the war cooling down into a static mess just like the Donbass conflict. Trenches, barbed Wire and pissed off people sitting on both sides into perpetuity. Having the Dnieper River as an organic border is far more preferable than the random field that the current border is.

 

[Joshua Coon]

Is this a joke? It's real conflict against a weaker target, there's literally no better condition to try new tech that hasn't seen real wartime application yet. Defense ministers would normally fucking cum in their pants at the idea. "Firing it off into the air" isn't going to give you a fraction of the data and is an atom-brain take.

not a joke. you just want to throw rocks at people

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

lol, yep just test out new stuff because why not. absolute nonsense take

What the hell do you think the past 20 years in the Middle East has been for the US? The current military looks absolutely nothing like the one that went in back around 2001.

 

[Duke Nukem]

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Inspiring new recruitment effort for the Reddit Battalion at a local city council meeting. After watching this I put in my two week notice, burned all my possessions, and bought a one-way ticket to Krakow. Slavoj Ukrainies .

I love how he holds up the picture when he says "bad side"

Also, he won't be vegetarian for long if he has to eat MREs in the field.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Looking further into the /pol/ thread further lol.

If any Russian or Ukrainin speakers can confirm it.

Does Young Zelensky ask Putin sitting in the audience, to invade Ukraine and annex it as a way of settling debts?

 

[Cold Root Beer]

I wondered this before, and I'm wondering it still: why is DC spazzing out so hard over this?

Joe Biden once almost fought a pack of straight-razored armed niggers with a length of iron chain, all due to a dispute over not wearing a swimming cap to cover their Jheri curl. This all happened when Biden had the lofty authority of being a pool lifeguard. Are you really that surprised Biden would risk WW3 for Russia getting their Jheri curl grease in the Ukrainian swimming pool?

 

[Joshua Coon]

What the hell do you think the past 20 years in the Middle East has been for the US? The current military looks absolutely nothing like the one that went in back around 2001.

what does that have to do with Russia and the Ukraine. apart from maybe US intervention in Syria

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Whatever is going on, if it's globally known that Putin is having a massive turnover with his staff right now, something has gone horribly wrong and Putin's trying to play the blame game with any scapegoat he can find.


Not to mention the colossal fuckup that happened with the airborne insertion on the airport that didn't get reinforced and so that 'elite' unit got wiped out almost entirely.

Is it? FDR had the Pentagon purged after Pearl Harbor and Bataan. He didn't purge everyone either, eg MacArthur, who was in charge of the Philippines at the time.

 

[Wash away the rain]

What the hell do you think the past 20 years in the Middle East has been for the US? The current military looks absolutely nothing like the one that went in back around 2001.

The reason why it’s nonsense is because Russia historically has benefited from having their weapons shrouded in myth and legend , the problem with Russian tech is it’s often over hyped and showing how much more pathetic it is let’s the us come up with real hard counters to it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The reason why it’s nonsense is because Russia historically has benefited from having their weapons shrouded in myth and legend , the problem with Russian tech is it’s often over hyped and showing how much more pathetic it is let’s the us come up with real hard counters to it.

Modern Russia has only been around since the 90s. Things have changed and best to acknowledge it before you sound like the guy sperging about Russian commies.

 

[Sammich]

I heard Putin hates apu posters and is going to wipe them away

Let putler fuck around and find out!

 

[Duke Nukem]

Well this is probably the most accurate meme regarding redditors willing to volunteer in the Ukraine.

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While I am at it, let me include some memes that were found today on the world wide web.




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That meat grinder one is the best I've seen all week.

 

[glib]

What the hell do you think the past 20 years in the Middle East has been for the US? The current military looks absolutely nothing like the one that went in back around 2001.

Last 20 years was R&D on how to quell and contain an active insurgency through biometrics, humint, sigint, and political power.
The irony is that the Taliban just took over again anyway. Mission failed, we'll get em again next time.
I mean its almost ridiculous that they used camo that didn't work, and unarmored humvees.
Almost like they were trying to gain information about what would work.


It's all fun and mission accomplished until they turn their military-industrial complex on us.

 

[Mr Processor]

Russia knew full well that this war was not going to be easy. Even with the amount of setbacks they've had they captured more land faster than any nation post WW2. people seem to forget how humilating the 2003 invasion was for the US, troops were begging parents to pull together collections at work to buy fucking personal body armor and troops had to personally purchase armor for Humvees and to ad-hoc weld panels onto them since some of the humvees were sent over without the canvas tarp shit they used to use for roofs. View attachment 3095437

I remember hearing in the Iraq War that they had fucked up the TPFDL(Time-Phased Force & Deployment List),:

The critical moment, one planner said, came last fall, during the buildup for the war, when Rumsfeld decided that he would no longer be guided by the Pentagon’s most sophisticated war-planning document, the tpfdl—time-phased forces-deployment list—which is known to planning officers as the tip-fiddle (tip-fid, for short). A tpfdl is a voluminous document describing the inventory of forces that are to be sent into battle, the sequence of their deployment, and the deployment of logistical support. “It’s the complete applecart, with many pieces,” Roger J. Spiller, the George C. Marshall Professor of military history at the U.S. Command and General Staff College, said. “Everybody trains and plans on it. It’s constantly in motion and always adjusted at the last minute. It’s an embedded piece of the bureaucratic and operational culture.” A retired Air Force strategic planner remarked, “This is what we do best—go from A to B—and the tip-fiddle is where you start. It’s how you put together a plan for moving into the theatre.”

-- Offense and Defense, The battle between Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon. By Seymour M. Hersh

The TPFDL is a very American (and very impressive) way to fight a war, I'm not surprised the Bush administration fucked it up. That was almost a deliberate fuck up , I don't think other currently existing (I'm not talking about the German's during World War 1 or anything like that) militaries in the world are necessarily as sophisticated when it comes to logistics. That's not a slight against the Russians or anyone else's military, just frank admiration for the US War Machine. So, a colossal screw up like that during Gulf War II left a lasting impression on anyone who was paying attention.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

We don't know what the Russian General Staff are thinking or planning, but I doubt they'd make an assumption of that kind. And as we won't know anything about what was and or will be said in these planning meetings for generals for some time, who knows what the Russians think? Anyways, as someone mentioned earlier in this thread, the Russians might be making a feint for Kiev, while encircling the Ukrainian forces in the Southeast to crush them. To cast some hypocrisy on my own statements, I think that's a likely course of action given the information we know.

They sent the bulk of the 35th CAA, 36th CAA and later parts of the 29th from the north (somewhere around 17 BTGs) and large parts of the 2nd Guards at Kiev from the east. This is in addition to a sizeable portion of their VDV armored units that are involved in the fighting around Irpin.

I'm pretty fucking sure it isn't a feint. They are throwing too many resources at it.

 

[Psychotron]

It's all fun and mission accomplished until they turn their military-industrial complex on us.

None of those are foolproof, but they are scary

 

[quaawaa]

Don't know if these were posted yet, but apparently a Tik Toker accidentally alerted Russian intelligence that the mall that got hit by a Russian missile was being used by the Ukrainians to store military equipment (source /pol/):

Spoiler: Original

The Guardian confirms that this place was being used as a base:

The six bodies stretched out under the plastic groundsheet are all dressed in military fatigues. They could have been soldiers catching up on some sleep.

The remains of a huge engine block nearby, surrounded by serrated sheets of tank chassis, lends credence to that theory.

As advancing Russian forces tighten their grip on Kyiv, it has become almost commonplace to come across camouflage vehicles, military hardware and anti-aircraft guns hidden in underground public car parks.

Locals acknowledge the Ukrainian army is using their area as a base.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Let's revisit some of the Russian Scheels talking points
It took America 3 weeks take to Baghdad
There just trying not to kill civilians
They're just using their shity units
Tune in next week to hear the Putin c********* next rounds of excuses