Orbiter šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆšŸ± Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

"paint me like one of your catboys, Nick"
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Groypers can not refute PPP's arguments because PPP's arguments are completely incoherent.

PPP will at various times claim that AF are bad optics and yet at other times, PPP will claim that optics don't matter.
PPP will at various times claim that Nick is working for the feds and at other times claim that Nick is going to be taken down by the feds.
PPP will at various times claim that Nick is ruining his life and should quit and yet at other times, PPP will claim that he is actually trying to give AF advice in hopes of making them better.

I don't see how PPP is working from any coherent moral or philosophical framework. He just throws a bunch of spaghetti at the wall, whatever random criticism and accusations that come to his head, regardless of whether any of them contradictory or mutually exclusive. I mean, which of PPP's arguments were you wanting to be rebutted because they can't ALL be correct?

And yes, "You are fat" is a perfectly legitimate counterargument. Id say an obese homeless friendless unemployed loser who has been disowned by his parents who spends his days obsessing over e-celebs rather than improving himself has some seriously misplaced priorities.
Go back to sucking John Doyle's cock.
 
It's not women who are going to get you fired for saying something racist. They might snitch on you but they're not the ones with power.
You guys get too blackpilled on women by manosphere losers like Jack Goldman. This incel shit is the equivalent of "you can't fire me, I QUIT". Stop obsessing over tinder data graphs.
Literally sub 90 IQ. Nowhere in my reply did I mention the plight of inceldom or not getting pussy. No one is complaining how women only fuck the top 20% of men or whatever. Can’t even process what someone else wrote in good faith or it would ruin the whole schtick. I simply answered what’s the political utility to refer to yourself as an ā€˜incel’ in your rhetoric. There’s even deeper reasons but I’m afraid discussing anything that doesn’t vividly detail male-on-male anal sex escapes the attention of most users on this board.
 
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This is dumb for several reasons. Firstly, sex is only one way to confer status, and even then the status that it can provide is strictly limited in terms of context. I.e, getting laid a bunch generally will not result in a net positive material outcome, does not generally provide one with a position of power, etc. You can maybe get some frat bros to go like "wow this dude gets a lotta poon, broh" and even then thats a schtick you really can't do outside of your 20's. It's pretty clear your interactions with women boil down to getting picked on or snubbed by some "stacy" type in school and getting mad at some bloviating, over the top clout chasing whores on twitter or whatever. Secondly, women themselves do not actually hold power. Talk about being opposed to allowing botched grundle surgery patients in the women's bathroom and watch how quickly all the "girl power!" And "we stand up for women!" Rhetoric melts away to calls for scalps. Women themselves do not have power, they are given access and contextual permission by the people who do.


Even then, that is definitionally being a volcel, something that, when pressed on the issue, the guys who give you your marching orders have specifically eschewed. Just be honest, you latched onto it because it was the trendy edgelord twitter bit and now you're irrationally attached to it and feel the need to come up with a bunch of post hoc copes for why it's actually a super serious ideological position that will save western civilizationā„¢. There is no realistic scenario where you continue to double down on this stuff and don't just come across as whiny/bitter/jilted you didn't date in high school.
You do realize you just entirely proved my point right? The primary way in which you attacked me was to accuse me of being unattractive to women. I want to say that’s not true at all but it pains me to give in to that frame. If a guy’s opinion is worth more or less in your lame gen x pussy worship bible depending on how many roasties opened their legs for him then how can you say women don’t have any power over men when they are the ones to ultimately confer that to men. Some niggas be like ā€œwomen have no power over menā€ than be as whipped as Prince Harry. And if you want to say the people who have the tools to manufacture the consensus are the most powerful, I agree with you. But women are largely way more susceptible to it and in turn will be how the system controls the majority of men - to our detriment.

It is a bit silly in some sense but I find it’s pretty effective. I’m a fakecel and Nick would be a volcel by your definition, but it’s cringe to even say that. The idea that a woman’s value judgement affects a man’s sense of worth is normal. The modern notion that it entirely determines his sense of worth is something to do away with. So, AF comes up with an ideal that completely countersignals it, and the more ā€˜incel’ (dgaf about women) the more cool you are within the male cult. This is pretty smart but clearly could be a very bad thing for obvious reasons but thankfully AF is basically advocating for us to become competent, infiltrate or create institutions and gain power. You can’t do that by being a repulsive person. Girls are primarily a distraction if you’re trying to become great and/or affect great change. And to do those things you can’t let yourself become ugly, poor or incompetent. A normal person would say a guy like PPP fits the description of an incel more than the average groyper would 10/10 times.

For a few of the other replies here, YOU are buck broken if you can’t even write on an anonymous board that you don’t care if a woman fucks you or not and you’re simping for them where they’ll never read it. ā€œWOMEN FOLLOW STRENGTH, THEY VOTED FOR HITLER!ā€ Oh that’s nice everything’s gotten so much better since they got the vote and if we have one thing on our side, it’s overwhelming strength against our enemy. What a fucking retard.
 
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You do realize you just entirely proved my point right? The primary way in which you attacked me was to accuse me of being unattractive to women.
i primarily attacked you for being a retard. It just so happens that this is the part that seemed to hit you close to home. Really makes me think.

I want to say that’s not true at all but it pains me to give in to that frame. If a guy’s opinion is worth more or less in your lame gen x pussy worship bible depending on how many roasties opened their legs for him then how can you say women don’t have any power over men when they are the ones to ultimately confer that to men. Some niggas be like ā€œwomen have no power over menā€ than be as whipped as Prince Harry.
I never said women dont have power over men, just that the idea that we live under a matriarchy is laughably absurd on its face.

And if you want to say the people who have the tools to manufacture the consensus are the most powerful, I agree with you. But women are largely way more susceptible to it and in turn will be how the system controls the majority of men - to our detriment.
So you agree then that it is the people who manufacture consensus who are actually the root of the problem and not just women on their own? Because thats what i was arguing in my post. If you accept that premise, which to me it seems you have, it is a far more worthwhile endeavor to focus on the apparatus of consent manufacturing then to fixate on women as if they're singlehandedly behind the ills of society.

It is a bit silly in some sense but I find it’s pretty effective.
How? What have you accomplished from this? Has it actually solved the "women problem"? Because if it has i don't see where.

I’m a fakecel and Nick would be a volcel by your definition, but it’s cringe to even say that.
I agree, tying your identity to meaningless internet jargon for the sake of pretending you don't want pussy is very cringe.

The idea that a woman’s value judgement affects a man’s sense of worth is normal. The modern notion that it entirely determines his sense of worth is something to do away with.
Broadly speaking most people don't believe this in real life. You would only think this if *you* were already putting an absurd amount of value on female attention and then got disillusioned when you felt you weren't getting enough. You can say this is me accusing you of being unattractive to women, i disagree. I am saying that *you* are the one making the female gaze the end-all-be-all of self worth. Normal people dont think like this. Normal people are not putting pussy on a pedestal. You want to see who cares about that stuff? You want to see who actually puts pussy on a pedestal? Go to where the incels are. Lurk around on r9k. Go on the incel forum. Those are the people who let female approval (and/or lack thereof) define their worth.

So, AF comes up with
they didnt

an ideal that completely countersignals it, and the more ā€˜incel’ (dgaf about women) the more cool you are within the male cult.
if you didnt care about women, you wouldn't be an incel. I can elaborate on this if you still don't get it, but that is the bottom line.

This is pretty smart
It isn't.

but clearly could be a very bad thing for obvious reasons
I'm glad you have put at least this much thought into this.

but thankfully AF is basically advocating for us to become competent, infiltrate or create institutions and gain power.
I have yet to see a single institution created by AF that either doesnt solely exist for Nick's purely personal enrichment (cozy) or has been abandoned (AF students/campus/whatever it was called) so unless you're speaking purely in the abstract here I'm going to have to ask you to clarify what you mean by this

You can’t do that by being a repulsive person.
I agree.

On an unrelated note, you can find an entire thread about beardson on this website. It's not as big as this one mind you, but you can find it.

Girls are primarily a distraction if you’re trying to become great and/or affect great change.
That is very debateable. All of the best men I know are fathers and husbands. In terms of affecting great change, I'm assuming you're referring to the view of "great men of history". Surely you don't *all* think you are each going to be the next Napoleon, or that Napoleon nitpicked his men for wanting to be married or start families.

And to do those things you can’t let yourself become ugly, poor or incompetent.
The only one of those that actually matters is competence if you're talking about affecting change. Most European monarchs were some really goofy looking fuckers and Hitler had to live in communal hovel-style housing, i can keep going dowm the list if you want.

A normal person would say a guy like PPP fits the description of an incel more than the average groyper would 10/10 times.
That is most likely the case, however 1) PPP is not the one calling himself an incel 2) I really do not give a shit about what PPP does or what he looks like because nothing about him has any impact on my core critique of identifying yourself as an "incel."

For a few of the other replies here, YOU are buck broken if you can’t even write on an anonymous board that you don’t care if a woman fucks you or not
people arent doing that here because this website isnt a blog. It isn't facebook. Its a website with a discussion board for people to shit on Nick Fuentes.

and you’re simping for them where they’ll never read it. ā€œWOMEN FOLLOW STRENGTH, THEY VOTED FOR HITLER!ā€
They do follow strength; in fact, most people do. You even correctly identified that women are just more susceptible to that type of thinking. What system has power right now? That is going to be what women are supporting. When it becomes sufficiently fragile and unstable and a viable competition emerges, that will build momentum.

Oh that’s nice everything’s gotten so much better since they got the vote and if we have one thing on our side, it’s overwhelming strength against our enemy.
If you have overwhelmimg strength against the enemy, then use it! Lord knows we're all waiting!

What a fucking retard.
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It is a bit silly in some sense but I find it’s pretty effective. I’m a fakecel and Nick would be a volcel by your definition, but it’s cringe to even say that. The idea that a woman’s value judgement affects a man’s sense of worth is normal. The modern notion that it entirely determines his sense of worth is something to do away with. So, AF comes up with an ideal that completely countersignals it, and the more ā€˜incel’ (dgaf about women) the more cool you are within the male cult.
That's called MGTOW aka homosexuality.
Incel means you're too much of a pathetic loser to get a woman despite being desperate for one.
 
You do realize you just entirely proved my point right? The primary way in which you attacked me was to accuse me of being unattractive to women. I want to say that’s not true at all but it pains me to give in to that frame. If a guy’s opinion is worth more or less in your lame gen x pussy worship bible depending on how many roasties opened their legs for him then how can you say women don’t have any power over men when they are the ones to ultimately confer that to men. Some niggas be like ā€œwomen have no power over menā€ than be as whipped as Prince Harry. And if you want to say the people who have the tools to manufacture the consensus are the most powerful, I agree with you. But women are largely way more susceptible to it and in turn will be how the system controls the majority of men - to our detriment.

It is a bit silly in some sense but I find it’s pretty effective. I’m a fakecel and Nick would be a volcel by your definition, but it’s cringe to even say that. The idea that a woman’s value judgement affects a man’s sense of worth is normal. The modern notion that it entirely determines his sense of worth is something to do away with. So, AF comes up with an ideal that completely countersignals it, and the more ā€˜incel’ (dgaf about women) the more cool you are within the male cult. This is pretty smart but clearly could be a very bad thing for obvious reasons but thankfully AF is basically advocating for us to become competent, infiltrate or create institutions and gain power. You can’t do that by being a repulsive person. Girls are primarily a distraction if you’re trying to become great and/or affect great change. And to do those things you can’t let yourself become ugly, poor or incompetent. A normal person would say a guy like PPP fits the description of an incel more than the average groyper would 10/10 times.

For a few of the other replies here, YOU are buck broken if you can’t even write on an anonymous board that you don’t care if a woman fucks you or not and you’re simping for them where they’ll never read it. ā€œWOMEN FOLLOW STRENGTH, THEY VOTED FOR HITLER!ā€ Oh that’s nice everything’s gotten so much better since they got the vote and if we have one thing on our side, it’s overwhelming strength against our enemy. What a fucking retard.
lmaaao calm down you fucking sped.

also i'm a woman and your essay just doused any internal fire any of us could ever have for you
 
If Nick was purely driven by a lust for shekels, why doesn't he paywall anything?
He literally did try doing this a couple years ago. Presumably it wasn't making much money and most of the clips were getting reposted on YouTube/elsewhere anyways making it unprofitable so he switched back to his tried and true method which made him a millionaire (or close to). If anything, this futher proves he's only doing it for money lmao
 
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