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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Chechen Sheikh Mansur volunteer battalion engaging Russian forces

Hearing a bunch of Muslims yell "ALLAH ACKBAR" while trying to defend a majority Christian nation is one of those oddball things you don't expect to listen to.


This is from The Sun but if the audio is legit the Russians are not having a very fun time in Ukraine. It also seems to match up with a DOD report about the Russians dealing with frostbite and low morale, but who knows.

Also apparently the reports of Canadian sniper Wali being killed by the Russians was fake news, he's still in Ukraine and still fighting Russian forces.

 
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Chemical weapons are very destructive, but this is over selling how effective they are.

To be easily deployed over a city you would need it to be deployed as a gas or as a liquid. Which would mean that it's probably going to evaporate - or in the Ukraine it might even freeze.

I know a lot of spergs denied the chemical attacks in Syria because white helmets would retrieve bodies without specialist equipment, however in those cases the chemical in question was gone. It had evaporated because Syria is fucking hot. I remember watching a video where a chemist explained that this would occur quickly.


Now I know it's not a perfect analogy, but even during rush hour in one of the most tightly packed and busiest subways in the world a Sarin attack only killed 14 (plus some others later on) and left 50 permanently wounded. That is in an enclosed and busy environment.

Now yes they didn't have an effective dispersal mechanism, and hospital treatment would have been reach fairly easily - but likewise, a city can be windy, has areas in cover and dispersal over a wide area would be difficult or would likely have no effect.

If Putin does use them it will be out of sheer desperation, as regular military units have access to the required precautions to survive this. It's unpleasant, but not overly complicated to don a respirator.
I'm still thinking how they're going to use chemicals and bio weapons on the Ukrainian. Russia and Syria is confident in using them in Syria because they thought no one would know, and yet here we are.

Then there's also the matter in how to deliver the payload. In WWI, gas shells would failed to blow up or backfired due to cold and direction of the wind. If they want to use pipe, they're going to have to be very close to the front and it would be very vulnerable to Ukrainian strike. Likewise with using planes like US did in Vietnam
 
Zelensky and his comedy troupe danced and dressed up like faggots.
Putin has billion dollar mansions with spa rooms and he has a thing for little boys, while his troupe at least half are actual homosexuals.

One is not like the other.
I'd be fucking embarrassed admitting it anyway. It'd be like if the USA invaded Canada and nearly a month in the Americans have failed to take a single major Canadian city while coping hard about why they haven't and have just resorted to impotently calling Trudeau a blackface wearing fag.
 
I'm still thinking how they're going to use chemicals and bio weapons on the Ukrainian. Russia and Syria is confident in using them in Syria because they thought no one would know, and yet here we are.

Then there's also the matter in how to deliver the payload. In WWI, gas shells would failed to blow up or backfired due to cold and direction of the wind. If they want to use pipe, they're going to have to be very close to the front and it would be very vulnerable to Ukrainian strike. Likewise with using planes like US did in Vietnam
The idea of using a bioweapon against a nation that you share a border with is absolutely retarded. You are being propagandized.
 
1. Wali is alive and in Kiev. So, Russians told us a lie, that they killed him.
2. AFU just confirmed, that they encircled Russians forces in Hostomel.

Also, Pieskov in his rage at a conference one more time was threathing that Russia have nuke and will use it in case of bla la bla. This is another day when I'm more and more sure, that Russia have maybye few nuclear warheads (if any), and they will not have a chance to use them.
 
1. Wali is alive and in Kiev. So, Russians told us a lie, that they killed him.
2. AFU just confirmed, that they encircled Russians forces in Hostomel.

Also, Pieskov in his rage at a conference one more time was threathing that Russia have nuke and will use it in case of bla la bla. This is another day when I'm more and more sure, that Russia have maybye few nuclear warheads (if any), and they will not have a chance to use them.
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And what makes you think so for the nukes?
 
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And what makes you think so for the nukes?
Looking at everything else that has gone on with all their other kit so far.

So much money has been creamed off by corrupt generals and other bureaucrats do you really think they've been properly cycling their nukes plutonium every 10 years like they're supposed to?

Or instead investing it into accounts they can no longer access?
 
On a lighter note, the Guardian has shat out another classic article from the ‘war in Ukraine, troons most effected’ genre-
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...e-trans-women-turned-back-at-ukraines-borders

As strange hands searched her body and pulled back her hair to check if it was a wig, Judis looked at the faces of the Ukrainian border guards and felt fear and despair.

“Ukrainian border guards undress you and touch you everywhere,” Judis says. “You can see on their faces they’re wondering ‘what are you?’ like you’re some kind of animal or something.”

Judis is a transgender woman whose birth certificate defines her as female.

Legally, there is no reason why she should not be allowed to pass with the thousands of women who are crossing Ukrainian borders to safety every day.

Yet, on 12 March at about 4am, after a long and humiliating search, border guards determined she was a man and prevented her passage into Poland.

When Ukraine imposed martial law on 24 February, all men aged between 18 and 60 were banned from leaving the country. Since then, it is estimated that hundreds of Ukrainian trans people have attempted to cross the border. The Guardian has been told by activists and aid workers that, despite their legal status as women, dozens have been mistreated and pushed back at the borders, with many fearing for their lives in the event that Russia’s transphobic regime takes over.

According to the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, Ukraine ranks 39th out of 49 European countries for its overall treatment of LGBTQ+ people. Gay marriage is not allowed in the country, the Christian Orthodox Church considers homosexuality a sin and there are no anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBTQ+ people.

Since 2017, trans people in Ukraine have been legally recognised, but must undergo extensive psychiatric observation and a lengthy bureaucratic process before their gender can be reflected on formal documents. Caught up in this complex process, thousands of Ukrainian trans people had no personal identity document or certificate when war broke out.

“Martial law says all males are obliged to serve in the military, so they can’t leave the country,” says Olena Shevchenko, 39, a human rights defender and the chair of Insight, a Ukrainian LGBTQ+ organisation and one of the few public organisations in the country that works with trans people. “Technically, the law applies to trans people as well, including both certified trans men and trans women
who had not changed their documents. But it sounds like Ukrainian border guards are preventing even trans people with a valid certificate reflecting their new gender from leaving Ukraine, and nobody knows why.”

Judis is from Svatove, in the Luhansk region, which is controlled by Moscow-backed separatists; she fled to Kyiv before Russian forces took her home town.

“As soon as I arrived in a village near the capital, my grandma’s house in Svatove was destroyed by a missile,” she says. “[After I left] I had no money and lived in a basement in a village on the outskirts of Kyiv. One day, a rocket hit about 150 metres from the house I was living in. Since then, I have had nightmares about how my limbs were blown off by a bomb.”

In their haste to leave bombed villages, thousands of Ukrainians did not stop to gather up documents such as passports, or had never applied for one before. Recognising this difficulty and the urgent need to help people travel to safety once the Russian shelling began, the Ukrainian government instructed officials to recognise any ID certificate or document – original or photocopy – at borders.

But as soon as Judis arrived at the border crossing last week, two guards stopped her and asked her to follow them to a room beside the customs office, where they physically examined her.

“Afterwards, one of the guards said, ‘you’re a guy, so get the hell out of here’, and told me I should be grateful they didn’t call the police, even though I have a legally valid document that states I am female.
“‘Go to the war’, they replied, adding that more than 3 million people had already fled the country and they weren’t going to let me out.”

Alice, 24, a trans woman from Brovary, a town near Kyiv, recounted a similar experience. She and her wife, Helen, a 21-year-old who identifies as non-binary, were stopped by border guards during an attempt to cross into Poland.
“They took us to a building near the border crossing,” recounts Alice. “There were three officers in the room. They told us to take off our jackets. They checked our hands, arms, checked my neck to see if I had an Adam’s apple. They touched my breasts. After examining us, border guards told us we were men. We tried to explain our situation but they didn’t care.”

LGBTQ+ associations and human rights defenders are warning that, since the beginning of the invasion, trans people are running out of hormones because of pharmacy closures and lack of medicines across the country. “If you stop taking hormones suddenly, it is extremely harmful to your health,” says Alice.

Bernard Vaernes works for Safebow, an organisation helping to evacuate vulnerable people to safety. He and Safebow founder Rain Dove Dubilewski were with Alice and Judis when they attempted to cross into Poland.

“This is the moment where we need to show that there are people suffering, not only from the war, but because of sexism and transphobia, and yet [those at risk] cannot leave,” says Vaernes.
Vaernes says that Russia’s discriminatory and hostile approach to LGBTQ+ rights is terrifying Ukraine’s trans community. In 2013, a “gay propaganda” law was introduced in Russia, making it illegal to promote gay rights. President Vladimir Putin has described gender fluidity as “a crime against humanity”.
“Many of the trans people I have talked to in Ukraine are afraid of Russia,’’ Vaernes says. A few days before the invasion, US ambassador to the UN, Bathsheba Nell Crocker, warned in a letter of Russia’s plan to continue human rights abuses in the parts of Ukraine it already occupies.
‘’These acts (killings, kidnappings/forced disappearances, unjust detentions and the use of torture) would likely target those who oppose Russian actions, including vulnerable populations such as religious and ethnic minorities and LGBTQI+ persons,” Crocker wrote.

Soon after war broke out, the UN urged Ukraine to take a “compassionate and humane” approach to the enforcement of martial law after multiple reports of Ukrainian men defying orders to stayand attempting to flee into neighbouring countries.
“I want to be free to do what I want in life,” says Judis. “I will try again to cross the border because it’s my right to leave and to live. And I will not remain silent. I will not be held prisoner.”
 
Martial law doesn't care about your feelings.
Tranny question is an interesting one. I wouldn't trust one to have my back, for multiple reasons, especially if they expressed desire to escape the conflict.

And nothing stops dudes from dressing up as women just to escape if that was allowed, even if they aren't trans.
On one hand, it's one's duty to defend their land, on the other, it's their life to do with as they please, so I'm a bit torn.
I wouldn't fight for the country I don't believe in, or straight up despise, as is the case for me. I'd still defend people I care about, however.

It's an amusing story for the outside observer, but is probably horrifying experience for the troon in question.
 
Why are you posting this guy all the time? He doesn’t bring anything news for dicusions.
Brings more news than most of the other posts. Russia bad over and over isn't news.

Vince McMahon

Because he's an old and cranky boomer, who think that this website is a supersikrit right-wing website where we hate on dem niggers and joos.

You're a Nazi and racist is not an argument. Funny how the left is so pro war all the time. Maybe Reddit is more to your liking.
 
You're a Nazi and racist is not an argument. Funny how the left is so pro war all the time. Maybe Reddit is more to your liking.
It is an argument, however, I used this as a characterization of your apparent personality on the website. I didn't try to argue about anything with you.

That being said, an old fart like you recommending me to go back to reddit is kind of hilarious. Were you there for the Eternal September or have you come to the Internet when it became a normie zone?
 
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