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Pretty sure Kronii has Chao garden muscle memory. That menu movement was solid.

And, I'm glad Kson is talking with Mikeneko, even if a little bit. The internet is not really the place to let it all out. I just hope Kson doesn't end up with too much on her plate as some sort of full time mental health counselor. I wonder how hard it would be to find a suitable mental health professional in Nippon-land, though.
 
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I don't think Gura is streaming Elden Ring anymore because of permissions, she clearly said the game was too hard for her shark brain and hopes to play sekiro so she can impress chat.

Also sheesh Mike not looking too hot. Someone posted a vid here that the jap aren't too sympathetic to their own which probably explains why they don't take mental illness as serious as everyone else. Anyways point being if we are looking at her like she's crazy I can only imagine how they view her when she has these fits.
 
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PassiveUnaggressive said:
And, I'm glad Kson is talking with Mikeneko, even if a little bit. The internet is not really the place to let it all out. I just hope Kson doesn't end up with too much on her plate as some sort of full time mental health counselor. I wonder how hard it would be to find a suitable mental health professional in Nippon-land, though.
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CMIIW I have read that mental illness is treated as a regular illness, so even if she go to a psychiatrist (and I'm sure she already had) she would just be prescription medication.

A bit archaic IMO but it is in Asia where mental illness are usually seen as the most shameful that can only be cured by praying or by drinking mountains of medications, but most of the time it is untreated.

Hololive is fucking lucky to have a figure like Kson that have western view on mental illness, but at this point Mikeneko is just barely salvageable and it's starting to look like she wanted to dig Hololive darkest secrets all the while not knowing she's also digging her grave.
 
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DALKurumiTokisaki said:
What she released was probably just business stuff than in this case which yeah is still a reason to sack her.
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Yeah I'm sure they had a reason to sack her, I'm interested in if it was a well thought through business decision or not. Reminds me of ID software losing Mick Gordon when it comes to DOOM OSTs; ID was 100% in the right from a legal standpoint and Mick was being a dumb diva, but that's why other industries have people employed full time to run around catering to the 'talent'. Sometimes it's dumb business decision to rightfully penalise someone. Ruschia situation isn't as impactful because she is a small part of there overall operation, still interesting though.
 
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Gravityqueen4life said:
imagine never having any game in real life and all of the sudden, you have girls throw themselves at you. must be an awkward feeling too have.
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It's 2x more important for male Vtubers not to get doxxed than the girls. He shouldn't be worrying about the girls online in another country but the ones around his area. He's gotta worry about the ones who will notice his new financial gain and those who actually recognize him as Vox on the streets.
Vox if you ego search here remember to always use your own condom! Never use the one she brings. Alot of clout demons out there ready to trap an easy bag.
 
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I don't think Gura is streaming Elden Ring anymore because of permissions, she clearly said the game was too hard for her shark brain and hopes to play sekiro so she can impress chat.
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Elden Ring permissions are still available since Ina is streaming it multiple times this week. It's just that Sekiro is more Gura's speed.
 
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X-avier cuck said:
Man it's going to be absolutely wild if Holo EN3 has an African American talent behind one of its characters.

Twitter is going to have a field day and I'm going to feel so bad for the talent getting pulled into whatever socio-political issue somebody Cooks up
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God no, I hope that despite the recent popularity spike vtubers are still too weeb for wokies. And remain as such for at least another few years if the bubble doesn't pop. I know that it has already attracted troons because of the become-anime-girl aspect but I don't want SJW art and woke shit flooding the tags.
 
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(iIivVvbBb-iIimMmvVv) said:
I disagree with @kukkia that there isn't a valuable market for the less fujo-bait system.

Personally I wonder just how much of the success of the male NijiEN is explicitly because of the pandering models, delving into that kind of entertainment, or really just because they're the only ones around. I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze in the longterm, too many egg shells. I've said it before but you can go the alternate route, but you need to make it work from a team-perspective, which is something I honestly believe HL does a bit better than Niji.
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Did I ever say that there wasn't a market for non fujo-bait male EN vtubers? I don't recall that. I specifically mentioned yumejos because a huge amount of female fans are closer to yumejos than they are to fujos. Basically just the female equivalent of the average male vtuber fan - someone who wishes the vtuber was dating them. As much as people like to believe otherwise, male and female vtuber fans are not that different. This is why every single design from Cover/Anycolor/etc is made to be attractive to the opposite gender. Except Eudrick, I guess, but he never debuted lol.

Frankly a lot of the serious male vtuber discourse here is very pointless because most people here clearly do not watch male vtubers to any serious degree. The idea that NijiEN guys are popular because fujobait gets mentioned by a few posters and then becomes accepted as fact because barely anyone here actually watches them. Then we get these entire discussions based around a faulty premise. If it was true then Uki would be the most popular NijiEN guy, which he very much is not. Luca is the second most popular NijiEN guy and he barely ever does anything close to fujobaiting. Vox does, but on the flip side Vox's closest dynamic with any of his colleagues is arguably his dynamic with Reimu, something which he wouldn't feature so heavily if he was just trying to pander to fujos (or diehard yumejos, for that matter).

I joked about it earlier but most people here are still in the mindset that every girl who watches male vtubers is a fujo. Imagine if a girl saw a guy talking about how Kronii or Elira is sexy and then said "wow look at that yurifag. Hololive/Nijisanji female vtubers are all just pandering to yurifags." That's the level of discourse that we have here about male vtubers.
 
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