Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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Do you seriously believe that the Donbas War with thousands of civilian casualties since 2014 hasn't been happening?
All just a big conspiracy?

Or are you just employing the same coping mechanism that libtards did during the 2020 US Summer of Love™, where they took smug selfies in the white, upscale, unscathed parts of their mega-cities (far away from the downtown carnage) and posted "hurr durr I don't see any burning and looting" tweets...
 
I don't think there's much of a choice in the matter, Putin has painted a huge target on his back, lots of people want him dead or otherwise removed from the picture because of how badly he's damaged foreign relations, he is the Benito Mussolini of Russia.
Here's the problem, if he goes, then what? It has to be a decision 100% made by the Russian people, because if they think whoever gets power after putin was put in there by the west, that guy is gone in an instant. Most likely, after they got rid of said person, they'd plop some ultranationalist type in charge, because they REALLY don't want outside pressure involved in their leadership changes. Getting rid of Putin could actually make things much worse.
 
I hope this Russia and and West both get hampered with this war. The world seems to have no good actors so lets brig them all down.
Hoping they mutually wipe each other out? You may not be far off considering the weapons both sides are reduced to using.
 
Nope, it's real.

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It is such a dumb statement that I don't even know where to start.
Well, let's start with the "Russian psyche". I guess Belorussia, Kazakhstan, and Mongolia share this "psyche" as ex-soviet countries.
Every one of those countries are literal shitholes.
India, Syria, and China too seem completely fine with Russia.
These too are literal shitholes.
"Because he could get a quick muscle on Ukraine", nigger this shit goes back to Germany's reunification. Any western politician worth their salt knew that NATO expansion would lead to problems with Russia; they talked about it even in 1990, when Russia was at its weakest, but it appears that the IQ of the western population dropped by about 20%. It "suddenly" became a big problem when, right after the revolt, the Ukrainian government wrote in the constitution their goal of joining the EU and NATO in 2014.
Fuck that shit. NATO isn't something that's forced on any country. You have to wait years to get into NATO by a country's own vote and the only reason Russia would fear that is that's it isn't how Russia likes doing business, which is forcing its shoe on your face without you having a fucking say in the matter.
Fuck Russia and any shithole who are allies with Russia because who cares what the pleb states think.
"You literally cannot have a clearer side in the wrong even if it glowed like the Sun in the night." yeah right like any war that british and american propoganda mashine supports.
Here goes the ebil weturns killing those poor arabs again.
Nigger, let me makes this plain and clear, no word play.
No wrong done by anyone in the past justifies Putin's invasion.
Correlation be damned, especially when your whole life is bombed to shit. Anybody from the Mid. East will tell you that.
Let us not discuss nationalist battalions incorporated into the army or crackdowns on opposition in mostly democratic and free Ukraine.
Let's not talk about Chechen rapist warlord, shadow mercs, international assassination or what else, since evrybody knows that all of Russia's ills are because of Ukraine trying to push its agenda in the most brutal ways.
I won't even talk about the 8 years of indescriminate shelling of the population of Donbass.
That got drawn by Russia at the behest of literal psychopath warlords lol
How about about right NOW, when the Ukrainian army won't let civilians leave besieged cities because if they do that, they're going to be shelled to hell and so they hide behind living shileds.
Besieged by who?
Who isn't allowed to leave? Since when? A month before Putin was gathering his fucking army on the border or a month later right now into Putin's fucking invasion?
Fucking retard lol
Mmmmkay. And just because you say so, too.
You can say otherwise. We can all be as wrong as we like over here.
 
Here's the problem, if he goes, then what? It has to be a decision 100% made by the Russian people, because if they think whoever gets power after putin was put in there by the west, that guy is gone in an instant. Most likely, after they got rid of said person, they'd plop some ultranationalist type in charge, because they REALLY don't want outside pressure involved in their leadership changes. Getting rid of Putin could actually make things much worse.
Of course it could, I never said there wouldn't be consequences, but this is a major war. Benito Mussolini was beloved by the average Italian right up until he ran into a Communist militia by pure happenstance after he was deposed by Italy's king because they wanted to make nice with the Allies. If the people Putin surrounded himself with are not brown-nosers then they might see Putin as too much of a detriment to keep around.
 
The Shah was a US puppet. That's why Iran a-logs us.
You mean the Shah who built schools and universities, opened the country to the west and made it livable since the middle ages until some radical nutjob zealots took over and brought the country back to the 17th century?
Yeah. Poor Ira back the, glorious Iran right now.
 
It wasn't.

Hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions displaced.

It was just ideological adventurism for the sake of ideological adventurism that just made the place a bigger shithole than it already was.

It was perfectly fine for the military industrial complex but not for the average Afghan.
the state of afghanistan gave shelter to an open enemy of the state who had just committed the equivalent of a major war crime against america. invading afghanistan was perfectly fine, in fact no other reasonable recourse exists in a situation like that. they could have handed bin laden over to america, or at least thrown him out of afghanistan (he later left anyway to escape burger troops) and no invasion would have happened. but jihadis gonna jihad, so they refused, which left only one outcome.

where the americans went wrong was when they started their faggot ass nation building project for two decades. should have simply done a conventional military occupation, conduct a high intensity manhunt for bin laden and his associates, and once they got him just leave immediately instead of staying for another decade like they did.
 
If the people Putin surrounded himself with are not brown-nosers then they might see Putin as too much of a detriment to keep around.
Even if they're not brown-nosers, they're all cut from the same cloth as Vlad.
You mean the Shah who built schools and universities, opened the country to the west and made it livable since the middle ages until some radical nutjob zealots took over and brought the country back to the 17th century?
Yeah. Poor Ira back the, glorious Iran right now.
I never said the towelheads were justified in deposing the Shah, and the Ayatollah can go fuck himself.

I meant that meddling in other countries' affairs has a tendency to breed anti-US sentiment. One must always consider unintended consequences before demanding other people convert to McWorld.

There's a chance that some people aren't interested in Democracy™️. If they want to live in shit, it's not America's job to convince them otherwise.
 
You mean the Shah who built schools and universities, opened the country to the west and made it livable...
He made it livable for the elite classes who could afford to be guests at massive desert luaus with world leaders - complete with air-conditioned tents - at the cost of tens of millions [USD], but not so much for the Persian masses - who found him and his "livable" conditions so wonderful they supported Khomeni's fanatics en mass.

You really are an imbecile.
 
Of course it could, I never said there wouldn't be consequences, but this is a major war. Benito Mussolini was beloved by the average Italian right up until he ran into a Communist militia by pure happenstance after he was deposed by Italy's king because they wanted to make nice with the Allies. If the people Putin surrounded himself with are not brown-nosers then they might see Putin as too much of a detriment to keep around.
It's a bit trickier than that. One thing to consider is that people may not miss the soviet union, but they certainly miss the influence it had, and being one of the two superpowers. For all his faults, from a Russian perspective, Putin has done quite a bit to restore that influence, compared to when he took over. They may not want to risk a chance at a yeltsin years style loss of influence and prestige, not to mention the chaos that resulted.
 
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