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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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A friend of mine who left Ukraine (I believe he lived in Kiev) in 2014 described the difference in East-West mentality as such:
  • In the West, people cheer "we're wealthy, we're powerful" when thousands of dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, cars etc. are manufactured.
  • In the East, people cheer "we're wealthy, we're powerful" when thousands of rifles, tanks, warplanes etc. are manufactured.
Sounds about right.
 
Seeing over on Normiebook that F-35B's from the RAF have headed out to Estonia. Most likely the infamous RAF no617 Squadron. Aka the Dambusters.
Is this a case of them sending them out again, or are normiebook tards just that behind because we sent F35s over weeks ago and they're back now.

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I said a while back when they were talking about adding Belarussian troops that it would end up being a clusterfuck because organising coalitions between multiple nation troops is always risky, even moreso when it's done on the fly. Now imagine those difficulties multiplied by
a)the fact the mercs and PMCs aren't proper troops and
b) Russias difficulties in managing just their own troops
and holy shit I expect this go go fucking catastrophically wrong.
 
Did you guys know that recently as much as 2 trillion cubic meters of natural gas was discovered in the Black Sea on Ukrainian territory, with good chunk of it located around Crimean peninsula?
As well as shale gas in Donetsk and Kharkiv, which thanks to newest developments in the industry can now be accessed. Ukraine already secured huge investment to develop production.

This means that they're positioned to potentially become an exporter to supply Europe's natural gas needs, right? Threatening Russia's position on the market.

This was probably mentioned at some point, but I must've missed that discussion. Seems pretty important.
 
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Is this a case of them sending them out again, or are normiebook tards just that behind because we sent F35s over weeks ago and they're back now.

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I said a while back when they were talking about adding Belarussian troops that it would end up being a clusterfuck because organising coalitions between multiple nation troops is always risky, even moreso when it's done on the fly. Now imagine those difficulties multiplied by
a)the fact the mercs and PMCs aren't proper troops and
b) Russias difficulties in managing just their own troops
and holy shit I expect this go go fucking catastrophically wrong.
Conscript? Isn't that just admitting to the Russian population that this is not a "special operation", but a war? Does Putin have enough political capital to do that?
 
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I said a while back when they were talking about adding Belarussian troops that it would end up being a clusterfuck because organising coalitions between multiple nation troops is always risky, even moreso when it's done on the fly. Now imagine those difficulties multiplied by
a)the fact the mercs and PMCs aren't proper troops and
b) Russias difficulties in managing just their own troops
and holy shit I expect this go go fucking catastrophically wrong.
I'd like to know how many of ~200k soldiers positioned for the invasion are actual combatants, if these losses ended up being so debilitating (around 30k between killed and wounded?).
The number seemed imposing, until you realize much of it is meant for logistics.
 
It appears the Ukrainian missile strike did even more damage than first thought. That's potentially one ship completely gone, another two out of action for long enough to have a major impact on the ongoing campaign.
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@Astro Galactic Megalul you were probably right, but maybe they didn't even need agents just someone with a fucking webcam pointing out the window. What even is Russia, failing to cut connectivity in their "controlled" areas. :story:
 
It appears the Ukrainian missile strike did even more damage than first thought. That's potentially one ship completely gone, another two out of action for long enough to have a major impact on the ongoing campaign.
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@Astro Galactic Megalul you were probably right, but maybe they didn't even need agents just someone with a fucking webcam pointing out the window. What even is Russia, failing to cut connectivity in their "controlled" areas.:story:
How much of these kind of ships do the Russian has?
 
How much of these kind of ships do the Russian has?
They had 4 of the Alligator Class. They had a total of 21 ships of the same role, of various other classes.

Others, not sure how many in the black sea.
They nominally had 7 landing ships assigned to the Black Sea Fleet, but two were down for repair in January. Assuming they haven't shifted any assets from other fleets then they potentially only have 2 operational landing ships to support their push. The absolute and unironic state of the Russians right now.
 
They had 4 of the Alligator Class. They had a total of 21 ships of the same role, of various other classes.


They nominally had 7 landing ships assigned to the Black Sea Fleet, but two were down for repair in January. Assuming they haven't shifted any assets from other fleets then they potentially only have 2 operational landing ships to support their push. The absolute and unironic state of the Russians right now.
It's insane. They really have been shown to be complete rank amateurs.

I read the Alligator class had 15, most were either in storage or decommissioned leaving just 2 active in the fleet - both in and around the black sea.

That said it's a bit by the by, the Russian fleet is not able to offer the logistical support it could. Further, it wasn't even missiles - the webcam caught the moment the fire started and it's unclear what the cause was. Could of been sabotage but like @Ponderous Pillock said these things might just be spontaneously combusting.

Given the state of Russian vehicle maintenance, no doubt their munitions are in a fucking state too - maybe one just decided it would go off at the most inopportune time.
 
I'd like to know how many of ~200k soldiers positioned for the invasion are actual combatants, if these losses ended up being so debilitating (around 30k between killed and wounded?).
The number seemed imposing, until you realize much of it is meant for logistics.

Suffering losses of over 10% of your total manpower has in modern wars usually meant losing the war altogether.
 

NATO head tells Russia it cannot win nuclear war​


NATO warned on Wednesday against Russia's war in Ukraine sliding into a nuclear confrontation between Moscow and the West.
"Russia should stop this dangerous irresponsible nuclear rhetoric," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told a news conference. "But let there be no doubt about our readiness to protect and defend allies against any threat anytime."
"Russia must understand that it can never win a nuclear war," he said on the eve of a summit of the Western military alliance's national leaders in Brussels. "NATO is not part of the conflict ... it provides support to Ukraine but isn't part of the conflict."

"NATO will not send the troops into Ukraine... It is extremely important to provide support to Ukraine and we are stepping up. But at the same time it is also extremely important to prevent this conflict becoming a full-fledged war between NATO and Russia."

Nestle to suspend many products in Russia, including KitKat​

The suspended brands make up the "vast majority of volume and sales" in Russia, according to spokesperson​


Nestle said Wednesday it will halt the sale of several nonessential products, including KitKat candy bars and Nesquik chocolate mix, in Russia in an unprecedented move amid pressure on the world's top consumer goods company after criticism from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Nestle shares were down 1.3% Wednesday after hitting a session low shortly after the news. The statement was unusual for the maker of Maggi bouillon and Nescafe coffee, which has for decades continued to operate in war zones around the world.

The brands Nestle is suspending make up the "vast majority of volume and sales" in Russia, which totaled 1.7 billion Swiss francs ($1.82 billion) in 2021, a spokesperson said. Production of these items will also come to a halt.

Zelenskyy over the weekend called out several companies for staying in Russia after its invasion of Ukraine and accused Nestle of not living up to its "Good Food, Good Life" slogan. In the days leading up to his comments, Nestle had already been fielding online criticism from shoppers, activists, investors and political figures.

The company previously said it had halted nonessential exports and imports from Russia, stopped all advertising and suspended capital investment. It also said it was not making a profit in Russia.

"We stand with the people of Ukraine and our 5,800 employees there," Nestle said. It said it would continue to pay Russian employees.

Western companies that maintain a presence in Russia to provide essential goods such as food and medicine have been trying to strike a balance between President Vladimir Putin’s government and advocates for Ukraine pulling them in opposite directions.

More than 400 companies have withdrawn from Russia since the launch of its attack on Ukraine on Feb. 24, leaving behind assets worth hundreds of billions of dollars in aggregate.

Nestle was not alone in saying it would continue to provide basic items for nutrition and hygiene, such as milk and diapers. PepsiCo Inc., Unilever and Procter & Gamble have also said they would retain a presence in Russia to provide essential goods.

Nestle has for decades been a target of criticism by activist groups and governments over issues, including the company's bottled-water manufacturing, its decision to stay in South Africa during apartheid and its baby formula marketing practices.

"There's a history of protesting against Nestle," said Jaideep Prabhu, a professor of marketing at the University of Cambridge's Judge Business School.

"Nestle is much more front and center than P&G and Unilever when it comes to people knowing that they make their products ... Nestle's logos are very prominent on its products."

Twitter user Amee Vanderpool, who has nearly 350,000 followers, last week encouraged a boycott of Nestle products in a tweet.

"Nestle refuses to withdraw from Russia even after a desperate plea from Ukraine and President Zelensky," Vanderpool wrote.

The company was also denounced by some Ukrainian politicians as well as activist group "Anonymous," which also urged a boycott of Nestle's products.

"By refusing to stop business activities in Russia, @Nestle allows Russia’s war of aggression in Europe to continue," Ukrainian Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Ivanovych Kuleba, who has over 742,000 Twitter followers, tweeted Thursday.

"Long-term damage to the company’s reputation is proportionate to the scale of Russian war crimes in Ukraine (enormous). Not too late to change your mind, Nestle."


Russia says sending international peacekeepers to Ukraine would be 'very reckless'​


Russia on Wednesday condemned what it called a "reckless" Polish proposal to send international peacekeepers into Ukraine and warned that it could lead to a direct clash between Russian and NATO forces.
Poland said last Friday it would formally submit a proposal for a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine at the next NATO summit. read more
Asked about the initiative, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "It would be a very reckless and extremely dangerous decision."

He told reporters on a conference call that any possible contact between Russian and NATO forces "could have clear consequences that would be hard to repair".
Russia sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24 in what it called a special operation to degrade its southern neighbour's military capabilities and root out people it called dangerous nationalists.
Ukrainian forces have mounted stiff resistance and the West has imposed sweeping sanctions on Russia in an effort to force it to withdraw its forces.

Speaking in Kyiv last week, Poland's ruling party leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski said: "I think that it is necessary to have a peace mission - NATO, possibly some wider international structure - but a mission that will be able to defend itself, which will operate on Ukrainian territory."
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also attacked the proposal in remarks to staff and students at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations on Wednesday.

"This will be the direct clash between the Russian and NATO armed forces that everyone has not only tried to avoid but said should not take place in principle," he said.


Russian, Belarusian swimmers banned from world championships​

Russian and Belarusian swimmers were banned Wednesday from competing at the world championships because of the war in Ukraine.

The sport's governing body, known as FINA, had broken with most other organizations by continuing to allow Russians and Belarusians to compete, though as “neutral athletes” without national symbols.

“Following the review of an independent risk assessment, the FINA Bureau met today and confirmed that athletes and officials from Russia and Belarus will not take part (in the world championships)," FINA said.

The event, which will be held in Hungary in June and July, includes swimming, diving, water polo and artistic swimming.

The German and Swiss teams had previously indicated they could boycott the championships if Russia was still allowed to compete. Russia placed third in the medal table behind China and the United States at the last championships in 2019.

FINA added that Russia responded to the ban by withdrawing from all events on this year's calendar. Russia was stripped of hosting the world short-course championships in Kazan in December and FINA is now seeking a new host.

Russian and Belarusian athletes already have been suspended from sports including soccer, track, gymnastics, skiing and ice skating because of the invasion of Ukraine.

FINA is also pursuing a disciplinary case against swimmer Evgeny Rylov, who appeared at a rally in Moscow last week in support of Russian forces and President Vladimir Putin. He won gold in the 100 and 200-meter backstroke at last year's Tokyo Olympics and added a silver medal in the 4x200 freestyle relay.

"FINA maintains its strongest condemnation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine," the swim body said.


Russian oligarch's 2 superyachts worth nearly $100 million in total were seized by French authorities: report​


  • France seized two superyachts worth $100 million in total from a Russian oligarch, AFP reported.
  • Alexei Kuzmichev's $22 million vessel was seized on Monday, and his $76 million ship on Wednesday.
  • The EU, which sanctioned Kuzmichev last week, said he had "well-established ties" to President Putin.


Two superyachts worth nearly a total of $100 million, which are owned by a Russian oligarch, were recently seized by French authorities, Agence France-Presse reported.

Alexei Kuzmichev, 59, was a cofounder of Alfa-Bank, the largest private bank in Russia, and has a net worth of about $6.2 billion, according to Forbes.

Kuzmichev's 17-meter yacht, "Little Bear I," worth $22 million, was impounded on March 16 in Cannes, a city on the southeast coast of France, a government source told AFP on Wednesday.

The Russian banker's other vessel, "Little Bear II," worth $76 million, was confiscated on Monday in Antibes, a coastal town near Cannes, the government source told AFP.

The French government, the port of Cannes, and the port of Antibes didn't immediately respond to Insider's request for comment made outside of normal working hours.

The EU placed Kuzmichev on its sanctions list on March 15, meaning his assets were frozen and he was banned from traveling to or doing business with union member countries.

In a report announcing its sanctions, the EU said Kuzmichev had "well-established ties" to Russian President Vladimir Putin and was "one of the most influential persons in Russia."

Kuzmichev, who stepped down from the $22 billion investment firm LetterOne in early March, isn't the first Russian oligarch to have his yachts seized by France.

A $120 million yacht belonging to Igor Sechin, CEO of Russian state-controlled oil giant Rosneft, was seized by French authorities on March 3. Sechin, who was sanctioned by the EU and the US, told the yacht's captain to leave the French port and sail to Turkey as quickly as possible.


Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight"​

The Ukrainian government is refusing to allow transgender women to leave the country along with the millions of women and children refugees who have been streaming into Poland and other European nations. Instead, Ukrainian border guards are turning them back and forcing them to return home to join the fight.

Their reasoning might sour some trans activists in the West: Ukraine's martial law requires all biological males between the ages of 18 and 60 to remain in the country and fight. And it makes no exceptions for trans women.

Even trans women who have been widely accepted by their communities as woman still carry passports identifying them as males, which is what border guards see when they try to cross the border. In many cases, trans women who have tried to flee have been turned back, according to the Italian newspaper La Corriere della Sera, Italy's largest-circulation newspaper.
The paper quoted a trans woman who shared her experience at the hands of the guards: "They are men...they must turn back and fight."
The story has been picked up by a handful of European newspapers, including the UK-based Guardian. Trans women who spoke with the two newspapers described "humiliating" searches by border guards, and other perceived depredations, before being denied further passage.
As strange hands searched her body and pulled back her hair to check if it was a wig, Judis looked at the faces of the Ukrainian border guards and felt fear and despair.
"Ukrainian border guards undress you and touch you everywhere," Judis says. "You can see on their faces they’re wondering ‘what are you?’ like you’re some kind of animal or something."
Judis is a transgender woman whose birth certificate defines her as female.
Legally, there is no reason why she should not be allowed to pass with the thousands of women who are crossing Ukrainian borders to safety every day.
Yet, on 12 March at about 4am, after a long and humiliating search, border guards determined she was a man and prevented her passage into Poland.
Since Ukraine enacted martial law on Feb. 24, it's estimated that hundreds of trans women have tried to cross the border. Many have been turned back. The trans activists who spoke with both papers have said that trans people have reason to flee, since they would likely face persecution if Russia seizes control of the country. The Guardian went as far as to
The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association said Ukraine ranks 39th out of 49 European countries for its overall treatment of LGBTQ+ people. Gay marriage is not allowed in the country, and the Christian Orthodox Church considers homosexuality a sin. There are also no anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBTQ+ people.
Legally speaking, Ukraine starting recognizing trans women as women in 2017, with one important catch: they must undergo extensive psychiatric observation and a lengthy bureaucratic process before their assumed gender can be reflected on formal documents.

"Martial law says all males are obliged to serve in the military, so they can’t leave the country," says Olena Shevchenko, 39, a human rights defender and the chair of Insight, a Ukrainian LGBTQ+ organization and one of the few public organisations in the country that works with trans people. "Technically, the law applies to trans people as well, including both certified trans men and trans women who had not changed their documents. But it sounds like Ukrainian border guards are preventing even trans people with a valid certificate reflecting their new gender from leaving Ukraine, and nobody knows why."
Two trans women interviewed by the Guardian shared similar stories about border guards telling them to turn back and join the fight.
"'Go to the war', they replied, adding that more than 3 million people had already fled the country and they weren't going to let me out."
Alice, 24, a trans woman from Brovary, a town near Kyiv, recounted a similar experience. She and her wife, Helen, a 21-year-old who identifies as non-binary, were stopped by border guards during an attempt to cross into Poland.
"They took us to a building near the border crossing,” recounts Alice. "There were three officers in the room. They told us to take off our jackets. They checked our hands, arms, checked my neck to see if I had an Adam’s apple. They touched my breasts. After examining us, border guards told us we were men. We tried to explain our situation but they didn’t care."
Interestingly, the American press didn't pick up the story. Could this be because it might undermine the bright shiny (definitely not nazi-ish) new heroic image of the Ukrainian government, which has been the subject of almost unanimously positive coverage in the American press?

 
Some more footage of the Russian Landing Ship burning and exploding in Berdyansk as the ammo goes up.
This looks to have badly damaged one possibly 2 other ships. Yet another bad day for Putin it seems.

Makes one wonder how they explain Poland which is doing very well economically speaking
Poland was never part of the USSR. It was a Soviet Slave Client State.
 
I read the Alligator class had 15, most were either in storage or decommissioned leaving just 2 active in the fleet - both in and around the black sea
There were ~15 originally, but obviously got hit hard after the fall of the USSR. From what I've seen there are supposedly 4 still in commission 3 in the Black Sea Fleet (one of which was downchecked for repairs before the war), and one in the Pacific fleet. Of course given the general state of the Russian military it's kinda hard to be confident in what's in commission, or actually mission capable at any time.

Could of been sabotage but like @Ponderous Pillock said these things might just be spontaneously combusting.
Russian ships, and randomly catching fire, name a more iconic duo. I mean I can think of at least 4 or 5 recent examples just off the top of my head which is an absurdly high rate.

Given the state of Russian vehicle maintenance, no doubt their munitions are in a fucking state too - maybe one just decided it would go off at the most inopportune time.
Not just maintenance. Given the state of corruption in Russia there's potentially cut corners everywhere from manufacture, to storage and maintenance, to general handling and transportation. Wouldn't surprise me if it was munitions exploding on their own, and wouldn't surprise me if there's more examples as the war drags on and Russia is forced to digger deeper into their older munitions stockpiles.
 
answered to Caesar, and the Russian Tsars from Moscow followed the same model.
100%, btw "tsar" literally does mean "caesar"

Ivan married the last Paleolog for the sole reason to claim kingdom of Muscovia as the "third roman empire"

I'd like to know how many of ~200k soldiers positioned for the invasion are actual combatants, if these losses ended up being so debilitating (around 30k between killed and wounded?).
The number seemed imposing, until you realize much of it is meant for logistics.

One POW interview, 20y.o. assistant RPG shooter. Never actually shot RPG. Never shot AK or given it during the invasion. His duties were keeping wood stove stocked. Then, truck column got bombed on 24th, he jumped out at first explosion. Who could leave, left, leaving everyone behind.


Some updated on Moscow exchange:


trading hours reduced to 4hours, but from other sources the traders are limited (right now) to Russian entities only and obviously no plebs, just big orgs.
 
Also pretty based for the Ukraine government to tell trannies to go fuck themselves and that their men and are going to fight in this war. And Russia simps say Ukraine isn't based.
Imagine cutting of dick, getting fake breasts, and the border guards still identify you as male and tell you to go fight.
 
Imagine cutting of dick, getting fake breasts, and the border guards still identify you as male and tell you to go fight.
Also reveals what kind of cowards they really are. They pretend to be brave and stunning after coming out as trannies but when it comes to defending their County they run as cowards. I have a feeling U.S trannies would do the same. I'm happy the Ukrainian government is not having it.

Alot of trannies are not convincing as women despite what they think.
 
Also reveals what kind of cowards they really are. They pretend to be brave and stunning after coming out as trannies but when it comes to defending their County they run as cowards.
They aren't brave enough to hear opposing viewpoints, of course they wouldn't be brave enough for war (might be a bit hypocritical on my part, since I think I'd be pretty scared of fighting in a war)
 
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