What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

While it did have some organic grass roots upbringing at some level, I do largely believe atheism was the first astrotrfed movement on the internet.
Reddit for sure did that when the site creators made r/atheism a mandatory sub when they started.
I also do think atheist youtube (people like TJ Kirk and Darkmatter) was astroturfed by youtube and google itself.
I'm not saying they had special connections to silicon valley but from 2006 till like maybe 2014 (and in some cases in the present day) you could have sworn they were always promoted on youtube by youtube.
While any real opposition was seemingly pushed down.
 
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While it did have some organic grass roots upbringing at some level, I do largely believe atheism was the first astrotrfed movement on the internet.
Reddit for sure did that when the site creators made r/atheism a mandatory sub when they started.
I also do think atheist youtube (people like TJ Kirk and Darkmatter) was astroturfed by youtube and google itself.
I'm not saying they had special connections to silicon valley but from 2006 till like maybe 2014 (and in some cases in the present day) you could have sworn they were always promoted on youtube by youtube.
While any real opposition was seemingly pushed down.
Atheism has existed since the invention of thought. What you saw astroturfed was "atheism+", which was an artificial movement, designed to crush and subsume another aspect of society into the collective morass of intersectionalism.
 
They've actually pushed back the timeline on stuff like proto-agriculture and stationary hunter-gatherer societies quite a bit. Cultivation of grains in the Near East/Levant seems to have started around 20000 BC already for example.
Likewise I remember reading about aDNA studies proving that some natives from South America have some sort of ancestry from much older lineages which aren't found in the Paleo-Siberians who are thought to be the forefathers of all American Indians. Of course this just leads to new questions, namely why these people didn't never took over the Americas and left more traces in the form of genetics and artifacts. Something must've kept their population numbers very, very low.
To be fair at the time in the America’s there was bear size cats with knifes for teeth, bears the size of small rhinos, and at the very least half a dozen species of ornery herbivores larger then an SUV in the environment.
 
I think a lot of the incel hate might be astroturfed. In fact, gender wars in general seem to have that going on but inceldom seems to be another form of it. Both the mentality itself and the general response to it seems purpose built to divide society and its effects are too potent to not be stirred up on purpose.
 
I think a lot of the incel hate might be astroturfed. In fact, gender wars in general seem to have that going on but inceldom seems to be another form of it. Both the mentality itself and the general response to it seems purpose built to divide society and its effects are too potent to not be stirred up on purpose.
many young people suffer from crippling loneliness & hook up culture and dating apps have made a whole generation of mental deficient emotionally stunted retards.

So, if incel panic is not to “divide” society directly, it is probably to prevent anyone from connecting the dots that the way people form relationships & family is completely destroyed in Current Year. (Family unit is building block of society. If you can break up the family, you can control everyone with ease. Look at all the fucked up cults in history - they take away your wife and kids eventually.)

Bring up the loneliness… or the narcissism. Or the divorce rates or promiscuity… and you’re labeled an incel and mocked. Pretty unfortunate because loneliness, narcissism, divorce, and promiscuity unchecked erodes society’s foundation.
 
many young people suffer from crippling loneliness & hook up culture and dating apps have made a whole generation of mental deficient emotionally stunted retards.

So, if incel panic is not to “divide” society directly, it is probably to prevent anyone from connecting the dots that the way people form relationships & family is completely destroyed in Current Year. (Family unit is building block of society. If you can break up the family, you can control everyone with ease. Look at all the fucked up cults in history - they take away your wife and kids eventually.)

Bring up the loneliness… or the narcissism. Or the divorce rates or promiscuity… and you’re labeled an incel and mocked. Pretty unfortunate because loneliness, narcissism, divorce, and promiscuity unchecked erodes society’s foundation.
That's what I'm getting at. Sure, a lot of incels are genuine creeps (therefore, we can't trust them around women until they're more emotionally intelligent and mature) but the sheer amount of them popping up combined with the unanimous hatred of them without any real mainstream source to get them what they might desire is uncanny. A more honest assessment and conversation between the genders and a healthier understanding between them would prevent a lot of the loneliness and resentment present. Yet, the leading voices on either side take their inspiration from predatory schemers and abused oddjobs. We know that 2nd wave feminism was ultimately the work of dysfunctional women who were CIA funded so why wouldn't the incels be a glow op as well?
 
This one is music-related and not talked about much as most music tinfoil centers around the mainstream pop stars, but here it goes:

Metallica sacrificed Cliff Burton.

No matter how much Lars, James and Kirk talk about how much they love and miss him in a non-homo way, they had to pay their dues to the industry (and Satan) if they wanted their band to be successful. Not to mention, Lars already having connections to other entertainment industry elites also helped.

Whether it was intentional or not, it had to be done. Just look at how they blew up after Justice and so on; sure, some of the albums sucked by ~tru cvlt~ metalhead standards but they are one of the biggest metal bands out there compared to the other Big 4 bands. From reading a few comments online awhile back (2017, I’d say) and from the ‘tallica guys themselves, it didn’t seem like Cliff was big on selling out but went along with it anyway.

By the way, this picture is pretty sus…

I also don’t trust that the guys were gonna get rid of Lars after the tour (with Cliff), yeah he sucked at drumming but they needed him. How else were they gonna make it to the top without his connections? Joe Santriani wasn’t going to be enough?

No matter how many Cliff paintings, statues and museums, etc. the band releases, it won’t erase the fact that they did their ‘dear friend’ dirty like that.
 

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This one is music-related and not talked about much as most music tinfoil centers around the mainstream pop stars, but here it goes:

Metallica sacrificed Cliff Burton.

No matter how much Lars, James and Kirk talk about how much they love and miss him in a non-homo way, they had to pay their dues to the industry (and Satan) if they wanted their band to be successful. Not to mention, Lars already having connections to other entertainment industry elites also helped.

Whether it was intentional or not, it had to be done. Just look at how they blew up after Justice and so on; sure, some of the albums sucked by ~tru cvlt~ metalhead standards but they are one of the biggest metal bands out there compared to the other Big 4 bands. From reading a few comments online awhile back (2017, I’d say) and from the ‘tallica guys themselves, it didn’t seem like Cliff was big on selling out but went along with it anyway.

By the way, this picture is pretty sus…

I also don’t trust that the guys were gonna get rid of Lars after the tour (with Cliff), yeah he sucked at drumming but they needed him. How else were they gonna make it to the top without his connections? Joe Santriani wasn’t going to be enough?

No matter how many Cliff paintings, statues and museums, etc. the band releases, it won’t erase the fact that they did their ‘dear friend’ dirty like that.

What's the context for this photo?
 
I think that is from the accident that killed Cliff, although not sure what's suspicious about it
Perhaps “suspicious” was a wrong word, my bad. I should’ve said the image looked interesting as it looks like James and Lars were cleaning the blood from the bus where it landed on Cliff or surveying the damage on said bus.

Edit to add more rock/metal conspiracies:

Dimebag’s death was orchestrated, not sure about Vinnie Paul’s though.

Taylor Hawkins and Joey Jordison were sacrificed along with Shawn Crahan’s daughter.

Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington were suicided because they planned to expose some secret pedo ring that involved high-level politicians and celebrities.

Amy Lee’s fam sacrificed some of their other kids so she could succeed in the music industry. It should be noted she’s related to Civil War Gen. Robert E. Lee, which explains her white guilt when she wrote Blind Belief.
 
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I'm taking the term 'believe in' generously but I have a wild, original one. It's not a genuinely held belief but it's just a mildly compelling, entertaining theory.

Certain tragedies and happenings that get huge media attention aren't 'false flags' exactly, but they're at least partially manipulated, encouraged, or amplified to serve as op-sec 'drills' for secret operations and organizations. They encourage or plan an event with artificial ties to underworld operations and watch where the public searches for more clues, knowing that there's nothing actually there with this specific case.

The best example for me is the absolute-schitzo but intriguing theory that Jon-Bennet Ramsey never existed. There's obvious holes in the official story but nothing dovetails perfectly into those gaps. The father worked for some vague computer company with a ludicrous valuation that was just bought by Lockheed, tying him to the MIC. The pageant implications need not be stated. Maybe they staged a story and told the public at large, "go dig, there's answers out there somewhere," when there never were to see where they look.

Again, I don't believe this, but I like it


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I believe that the government kills legit conspiracies using massive fake conspiracies in order to destroy the legit one's credibility.

Let me use Pizzagate as an example. It's an open secret that elites are chomos that rape kids and are into weird occultism. Back in 2016 discussions of the Washington elite being godless child rapists were starting to hit the mainstream conversation with the podesta leaks. How does the government change the conversion? Pizzagate. People were finding weird things in regards to a D.C. Pizzeria and the media decides to focus on that. The innocuous location, the silly name was already distracting people and turning normies away from the important fact that government officials may be involved with child trafficking. Once the glowie gunman goes to the pizzeria and fires a few shots, Pizzagate and by extension, federal pedophile rings became off-limits and taboo.

Even when the talk of powerful people trafficking kids enters the mainstream again with the Epstine arrest, that quickly gets derailed with the conspiracy that Epstein didn't kill himself. Normies are so distracted by the murder mystery that nobody asks about the important stuff like: Who is on Epstine's flight log? How much dirt does he have on powerful people? Who helped protect him the first time he was caught? Is he the only pimp that services the elites?

It happens with every conspiracy, look at Qanon being used right now to kill any discussion about deepstate, election fraud, and vaccines due to the unexpected whitehouse tour.
I think this is spot on too and that it's baked in as standard procedures for any sufficiently large, shady operation. I think the infamous Epstein Black Book/ Flight Logs are for this. The contents are factual in that they were on the plane, but the really involved players want huge crowds implicated so they can blend in. It could even be a condition if you're connected enough and want in, "you can come to the island for a secret event, but you have to bring two other notable people along who won't get in the inner-circle party."
 
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Dimebag’s death was orchestrated, not sure about Vinnie Paul’s though.

Taylor Hawkins and Joey Jordison were sacrificed along with Shawn Crahan’s daughter.

Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington were suicided because they planned to expose some secret pedo ring that involved high-level politicians and celebrities.

Amy Lee’s fam sacrificed some of their other kids so she could succeed in the music industry. It should be noted she’s related to Civil War Gen. Robert E. Lee, which explains her white guilt when she wrote Blind Belief.
Dimebag was killed by an insane fan who was pissed Pantera broke up.

Cornell and Chester theory sounds QAnon level batshit insanery, same with the Amy Lee stuff
 
"Q" was invented so every mention of celebrity/politician pedophilia would trigger comments like this.

The pizzagate meme was too strong and it too significantly overlapped the truth.
No, Q was invented by some dude in South Africa, and pushed (and later taken over) by Ron Watkins because they're retarded Republicans who wanted to paint Democrats and people they don't like as pedos

Ever wonder why Q stuff never points the finger at Republicans?
 
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This one is music-related and not talked about much as most music tinfoil centers around the mainstream pop stars, but here it goes:

Metallica sacrificed Cliff Burton.

No matter how much Lars, James and Kirk talk about how much they love and miss him in a non-homo way, they had to pay their dues to the industry (and Satan) if they wanted their band to be successful. Not to mention, Lars already having connections to other entertainment industry elites also helped.
One of the big details you didn't mention about Cliff Burton is how the driver of the bus was never ID'd. My personal theory is that there was never a driver to begin with. One of the other band members was driving and crashed the bus while fucked up on drugs and/or booze. The rest of the band covered for him (by destroying evidence) because they had already lost one of their own that day. They also realized that their band and gravy train would come to a end if they lost a second member.
 
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