Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[doesnotglow]

>tfw you are going to die in a proxy war for no good reason

 

[RainwaterDrop]

Putin ain't wrong about America's cancel culture, though I could see his "they are censoring us like the Nazis" line coming from a continent away.

Except his premise is much more malicious. He hates these actions because they are harming his misinformation efforts, his state propaganda lines are always of the narcissistic sort: Russia does no wrong, the West is some sort of cartoon villain with awfully convenient actions that always validate russian state actions, everyone else is always hurting Russia no matter what. Cancel culture is awful and shouldn't exist, the West isn't ruled by blameless saints, but that doesn't change the fact that Putin and his cohorts are murderous, cleptocratic autocrats!

In fact, he isn't even talking about the unfortunate anti-russian sentiment that has emerged (it really shouldn't be necessary to explain that the average russian or russian descendant has no blame for the actions of the russian state and it's oligarchs), if he gave a shit about his people, the standards of living in Russia wouldn't have been stagnant or in decline for decades now!

 

[Cool Dog]

In case there was any doubt here's a leading neolib laying out exactly how the proposed false flag Syrian style WMD attack will play out

Putin may ramp up his war in Ukraine – here’s how Nato should respond | Ivo Daalder

It is vital Moscow understands that escalation will not be risk-free, says the former US permanent representative to Nato, Ivo Daalder

www.theguardian.com

The Russians have been very clear and consistent in regards to 'what they'll settle for'. Ukraine gives them the Crimea (which is there's anyway) autonomy to the Donbas and a declaration of neutrality (no NATO membership). Does this sound like subjugation? It's clear that the neocons will not accept any negotiated settlement, it's not in their interests. But note the narrative set up here "Putin is desperate, he's a cornered rat that will do ANYTHING to win". Could they be any more transparent?




The plan seems to be to bomb a chemical plant near an urban centre and blame the resulting Bhopal type disaster on the evil bear giving them an excuse to put in a no fly zone over Ukraine. Not to worry as they'll be surgical and precise when they shoot down Russian jets and take out Russian SAM sites.



No one wants a WW3 but we need to go to war with Russia. Funny how no one get's to vote on whether or not risking nuclear Armageddon is a price worth paying to defend Ukraine.



The Chicago Council on Global Affairs is a neolib think tank/NFP committed to research on global issues particularly pertaining to equity and inclusion. Major donors include the Bills and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller and Pritzker Foundations. Recent guest speakers at the events they host included Barack Obama. If you want to know what the billionaire leftists are thinking these are the guys to ask, and it seems like they think America going to war with Russia is a lock. Prepare yourselves because they're not going to stop. The United States is obviously in a debt trap and faces economic ruin, global war is the only way out for their elites. When they say they want a re-set, which means stealing trillions of other people's money, they really mean it even if that means nuclear war. After all billionaires have bunkers and getaways in New Zealand and they can always rebuild the way they want to when the radiation clears.

Neolibs got so used to having no real opposition back home that they think the rest of the world works the same way and that they can cancel somebody like putin or an entire country just like they cancelled gamers for example

Except fat autistic dark souls players don't have ICBMs packed with MIRVs, good luck dealing with that

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Supporting Retard Shitbag Team A solely because they flail autistically at Retard Shitbag Team B is never a winning policy

But thats US foreign policy-- OH, you're talking about e-celebs, not countries.

 

[Pork Packer]

But thats US foreign policy-- OH, you're talking about e-celebs, not countries.

There's a difference?

I mean, communist and leftist governments worldwide are fucking trash deserving of mass helicopter rides at best, but I will be six feet in the cold hard ground before I start simping for Uncle Sam just because he set the glowie squad loose on them

 

[St.Davis]

Sure, in much the same way Brianna Wu and the like are right when they talk about how pathetic and skeezy grifters like these retards are.

Supporting Retard Shitbag Team A solely because they flail autistically at Retard Shitbag Team B is never a winning policy, especially when it leads to one whitewashing, justifying, or even celebrating the retard shitbag antics of Retard Shitbag Team A solely because one thinks it "owns" Retard Shitbag Team B

Which is why I will always and forever consider the people who mindlessly play damage control and cheerleader for Putin and Co to be on the same cringe level as those who unironically campaigned for Sargon in that britbong election or who wrote articles on how Brianna Wu is both the greatest game dev in history and also an extremely attractive and charming woman.

There has really not been a ton of "mindless damage control and cheerleading" for Putin. Most posters are Hohol/NATO-critical rather than Pro-Monke Man.

There's a difference?

I mean, communist and leftist governments worldwide are fucking trash deserving of mass helicopter rides at best, but I will be six feet in the cold hard ground before I start simping for Uncle Sam just because he set the glowie squad loose on them

Wait, do you think Russia is still Communist?

 

[mindlessobserver]

>w-w-we never wanted Kiev anyway
>we always p-p-planned to just take the border areas

Putinbros, how can I get a job posting Russian propaganda on the Internet for 30 kopecks an hour?

I suppose one of the benefits of keeping your victory conditions vague means you can declare victory over anything.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

There's a difference?

I agree, Gamergate and whats happening in Ukraine are basically the same thing.

The Axis of Evil: Putin, Ralph, Sargon

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Some things that i'm surprised about:

1. EU not attempting to justify or initiate an EU army.
2. Serbia not militarily or politically supporting Russia. Besides some gopnik cock sucking tournaments-i mean pro-russian rallies they have come out neutral to negative towards Russia.
3. NATO still being pretty lineant on it's members when it comes to meeting requirements.

1 and 3 cancel each other out. If anything, Russia losing negates the point of NATO at all. Why bother having a military when there's no one waiting to invade?

I'm more surprised Vice actually has the stones to even go to Kharkov to film the mess. More balls than most of the journoswines of current year.

Especially Tim Pool, who is proud of quitting Vice.

 

[Pork Packer]

There has really not been a ton of "mindless damage control and cheerleading" for Putin. Most posters are Hohol/NATO-critical rather than Pro-Monke Man.

Honestly Imma have to disagree after periodically dropping into this and the previous thread over the last month

Wait, do you think Russia is still Communist?

I was referring to the general cold war antics rather than anything today

 

[and 127 others]

The Ukraine will be forgotten shortly after the end of the war. You realise the only reason people even "care" is because the MSM is telling them to, right? The next Current Thing will push the region entirely out of the public consciousness. Why is The Ukraine special? Why is it more memorable than Georgia?

Yeah I agree, the state propaganda machine just frictionlessly pushed the average US citizen from worrying about a threat so proximal & ubiquitous, they were wearing masks inside their cars and lining up for subscription-style medical experimentation, to salivating for nuclear winter from halfway around the planet. In about a news cycle’s time.

In a funny way, the “countering disinformation” campaign latched onto by the state propaganda machine and Big Tech is a justified concern; intelligence and critical thinking doesn’t scale with population audience size. Brains plugged into today’s Matrices — relentless bias reinforcement, something like Twitter’s or Reddit’s primary intellectual product — are easy to hack, in proportion to their reliance on isolated (“tailored”) internet topologies. By design.

Their paranoia for disinformation is an equal admission that it works like a damn charm; just not in the direction they are wanting to weaponize it in at the moment.

 

[St.Davis]

I suppose one of the benefits of keeping your victory conditions vague means you can declare victory over anything.

Haven't the Vodka Niggers been saying from the start that they pretty much just wanted Donbass, and Crimean water turning back on, though? (Along with disarmament, "denazification", and forced neutrality). As far as I'm aware the idea that they want to annex The Ukraine, or specifically take Kiev has been speculation moreso than fact.

EDIT: Doubleposted, apologies.

Honestly Imma have to disagree after periodically dropping into this and the previous thread over the last month

Fair enough, I suppose. Most of the "Pro Russia" stuff I've seen has been either relatively tempered, or clearly a lark.

I was referring to the general cold war antics rather than anything today

Oh good, I was concerned for a moment.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

I hope they don’t give me blueballs this time. I’m tired of Zfags regurgitating propaganda.

They’ve been broadcasting surrender demands for the last three days along with threats that no quarter will be given which is itself a war crime.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

They’ve been broadcasting surrender demands for the last three days along with threats that no quarter will be given which is itself a war crime.

as is openly telling civilians to banzai charge enemy soldiers with molotovs, just in case an all-encompassing draft out of nowhere didn't do the job before that, or calling for castration of prisoners of war while in an official capacity - I think we got well past the 'it's a war crime' point some 3 weeks or so back. if that 'no quarter' applies to Azov, I couldn't give two shits. if it applies to civilians as well, I might though.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Haven't the Vodka Niggers been saying from the start that they pretty much just wanted Donbass, and Crimean water turning back on, though? (Along with disarmament, "denazification", and forced neutrality). As far as I'm aware the idea that they want to annex The Ukraine, or specifically take Kiev has been speculation moreso than fact.

They've only said they want to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine. No definitions for what that actually means have been given. Everything we know has been based on guessing and observing what they went after.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

1 and 3 cancel each other out. If anything, Russia losing negates the point of NATO at all. Why bother having a military when there's no one waiting to invade?

Especially Tim Pool, who is proud of quitting Vice.

Who says Serbia hasn't been supporting Russia politically? Belgrade been looking like this for the last few days. Vucic is not an idiot. https://financialpost.com/pmn/busin...sian-overture-as-eu-pressure-on-serbia-builds

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

if that 'no quarter' applies to Azov, I couldn't give two shits. if it applies to civilians as well, I might though.

Of course the Russians will give no quarter. A US quarter is like 10 bajillion rubles right now, right?

 

[Wy4M]

Here is another example of fake news: Apparently this is happening now in France where people are fighting for sunflower oil.
It happened indeed in France but it happened in Nov or December 2021 during whatever sales.

 

[76LD910]

Only a round of an error you say. Damn. America must really have the cleanest books in the world then.
You convinced me on that, I relent.

Yes a rounding error, considering the official numbers anything more than that would be blatantly obvious via FOREX markets first and foremost, and in many other ways.

Twice at least and an additional digit.
How the fuck am I supposed to know much money the fucking US military wastes in the shades?
Two trillion? For two decades of work? You honestly believe that? C'mon man.

So not only does America have the cleanest books in the world, but also the clearest, most honest, mostest reliable self checking too.

Your economically illiterate, got it.

Can you at least understand that the equipment and provisions the military buys doesn't come out of a magical box that they throw money into but instead from publicly traded companies with limited production capabilities that have to keep track of their sales ?

The total combined annual GDP of the entire planet right now is around $80 trillion for reference. Two trillion isn't that much for an economy as large as the US, but its large enough that you cant just pull a significant portion of it out of a hat and dump it into the global economy without obvious repercussions, even slowly over 20 years.

Boy wait until they join up with some other caliphate and say that shit again.

The Taliban have their own ideology and don't belong to any sect of Islam, they rarely work with any outside group and were at war with ISIS.

It's not like they're some military superpower who have anything to contribute to any global jihad anyways, no Islamist group is. ISIS was far more active then the Taliban in committing international terrorist attacks that didn't warrant our intervention in the conflicts they were involved in either.

eally? I guess you're right. Grain prices are pretty high right now. I wonder why.

Ah yes, because the price of food in Russia hasn't risen at all.

LOL
Alright, you're just trolling and I fell for it.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to respond to someone that fucking out there. I was told to watch my poor little heart from melting and shit.
Mr. Us-Do-No Wong lol

Apparently the acknowledgement that the pull out of Afghanistan was a mismanaged fuck up is an "out there" opinion when presented alongside basic facts about the preceding two decades of the war.

Cope more Eurofag, I hope shitting on the US in regards to a war in central Asia will distract you from the war on your doorstep along with the massive increase in the price of energy and food, which you'll now be buying a lot more of from us alongside a lot more American weapons as well.

 

[Sammich]

What part is that? Taking Ukraine's nukes with a promise to protect it if shit hits the fan, then fucking off to train your military in nail polish techniques in between sending in a CIA or two to topple the government, then acting like a bitch when a war happens just to say it's not your business anymore?
Good job, faggot. Took a shit everywhere then fucked off to your ivory cardboard suburb to smoke weed and watch porn. It's the American way indeed.

Die mad you salty faggot. Not really watching porn or smoking weed, more so watching Ukes getting bombed to hell and drinking some lovely vodka. Funniest shit you've ever seen really. Well it's funnier seeing the entire western media set fire to the little bit of credibility they had left.