Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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Pretty sure China makes all those things tho.

Chinese military hardware isn't as good as Western gear, but it's not crap either. A lot of it was directly stolen from the West, reverse engineered, then built for cheaper than the West can.

They're not as good at building high end jet engines as Russia is, and their discount tires bought from AliExpress are obviously shit, but their manufacturing capabilities are now the best in the world. No reason they can't supply bearings, high end computers, industrial machinery, sensors and optics to Russia.

Meanwhile Nato countries are still trying to get to grips with their dependence on Chinese parts used in tanks, fighter jets, missiles and ships.

The biggest thing is steel. It's mostly street shitters and cat cookers on this list. https://worldsteel.org/steel-by-topic/statistics/top-producers/
Gonna be honest here, I wish those tax dollars went to Bishop Border Wall instead.
But how will the US get its taco trucks?
 
Honestly I'm not terribly worried about it. Stuff like that requires some specialized maintenance over time, I doubt most third world shitheaps are capable of keeping them operational. Look at it this way, how many passenger jets have been shot down in the last 20 years by MANPADS, despite them flowing freely from armories across the middle east?
Old school RPG's, AK's, ammo, and other russian shit is all over the world. At some point some slav somewhere sold that stuff out the back door. Heck that seems to be one of Russia's biggest problems even now.
You can't flood a shithole like Ukraine with 10,000 of these really expensive things not expect slavs to do what comes natural to them. Especially since a big chunk of Ukraines fighting force are conscripts to poor or dumb to figure out how to escape to the EU.

300 tanks? A few aircraft? And Ukraine is saying they are running out already? OK So they ether have a really low success rate or there is shrinkage along the supply line. I guess in time we will find out. :)
Lol checked the thread thinking something major had happened, but nope. Just another Ukrainian group counseling session.
Just check the time. The internet has a rhythm when it comes to this war.
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As a whole, Russians like having a strong leader/boss, known as a 'vozhd'. Those who would want a Stalin back tend to be elderly/clueless. They remember order, but conveniently forget the GULAG/purges/hunger/shortages.

Looking at Putin, he could be considered a sort of vozhd, in that he has things largely under control, the way he wants them. No real need for a GULAG. Most people know what they can criticize and what they cannot. Even those arrested for anti-war statements are dealt with through the Russian legal system, albeit one at Putin's command.

There are no sweeping purges throughout society, but have heard Putin has been firing people in his government who either haven't performed well, are against the debacle in the Ukraine, or both. The average Russian doesn't fear the 3:00 a.m. knock on the door. Wonder why 3:00 a.m. is a popular time to pick people up? Human body is at the lowest ebb at that time, most normally asleep. Can testify to that when working mid shifts, many years ago. See a lot of coffee/cola drinks consumed around that time.

Russia has enough to eat, fuel, places for everyone to live, etc., of varying types/quality. No rationing, unlike most of Stalin's time.

Just wish those hankering after another Stalin would read Bloodlands and the GUlAG Archipelago. Might wake some of them up.

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Spare a thought for the non-partisans. The dispossessed. Those that no longer give a fuck.

Keep with me here. This isn't just another too cool for school insouciance post.

I actually do give a fuck. About both sides. You've all put it pretty well. On balance, I can't really disagree with the aggregate feeling on the board. It's as balanced as can be, swaying a bit here or there now and again. Not much to add...

Except...

Don't forget that most people don't give a fuck. This is how this shit is allowed to happen. I know most of you know this. But it always pays to repeat the fact for the hard of understanding.

The vast majority of people will be going about their lives, worrying about heating bills, worrying about the rising cost of fuel for their car. I know you know this too. But it's their indifference that really allows the satanic bastards to have their way.

Most people are happy in ignorance. Some crave it. Some only use it as a salve because they have to. Even the weak need their get-out-clause. But this shit doesn't stop here. It doesn't end now, or next week or next month. Soon everyone will start to care, and that is where and when it will get hairy.

So far people have been allowed to not give a fuck. To not care. To be non-partisan. But when shit meets fan real soon, everyone will have an opinion, as in, everyone will have an axe to grind, and not just metaphorically...

That neighbour of yours? The one that has always coveted your car? Your wife? Your job?

Well, you can throw the Gini index out the window when they come with the clan knocking on your door because all the fuel has run out, or maybe all the food. Or maybe just for fun...


Civilisation runs on a silken thread. It don't take much to snap it.

Humans are fragile creatures and can be compared to cattle for the large part. The people that revel in nuance, those that can be found on this very forum, for example, are actually quite rare. Yeah, most people just want to grill. Just like most people on this forum want to grill, but they want to 'chew the fat' about the finer things in life as well. No, no, no, not Cartier or Prada, but how's about them Ruskies eh? Amirite?

Well, all of that is coming to an end pretty soon. It's already coming to a town near you. The finer points of discourse won't need to be disseminated or debunked, because Big Al who lives 3 doors down from you has taken his sharpened shovel out, and he really means to use it, this time.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't bullshit a bullshitter. So they say.

There comes a time in every man's life when the bullshit runs out. Bills need to be paid. The Piper who called the tune is sending in the big boys to collect the rent...

Nobody, gives a fuck about this war. But this war hasn't even got started yet.


It's not yet even reached its attrition stage. Sure, lot of pissed off people. But for the first time in a long time in history, those poor fuckers are just about to have it worse than even the poorer fuckers that went before them. And that's saying something. But just you wait and watch.

It won't be a quick holocaust. Oh No No, No No No.

This will take Slav hatred to a new level again where they really will try to find out where your great great great grandparents lived just so they can dig them up and kill them again in front of you. Hostel meets Holocaust. Quentin Tarantino unavailable for comment.

All the while, the little nippers in bad teeth land will just be drinking even more heavily because they still haven't been able to see a Dentist for the last 20 fucking years. Cause probably does equal effect here, but keep your judgement to yourself. There's a bigger game afoot.

This is what will happen:

People will just ramble on on forums and chat shit.

Everyone else will just say: "What the fuck did I just read?".

The best will lack all conviction.

Whilst the least amongst us will be full of passionate intensity.

The Centre will not hold. And if you are in America, the Center will not hold.

But Physics doesn't care about Geography the way that those facts don't care about your feelings!

The way that no one really gives a fuck about this war.
 
Old school RPG's, AK's, ammo, and other russian shit is all over the world. At some point some slav somewhere sold that stuff out the back door. Heck that seems to be one of Russia's biggest problems even now.
You can't flood a shithole like Ukraine with 10,000 of these really expensive things not expect slavs to do what comes natural to them. Especially since a big chunk of Ukraines fighting force are conscripts to poor or dumb to figure out how to escape to the EU.

300 tanks? A few aircraft? And Ukraine is saying they are running out already? OK So they ether have a really low success rate or there is shrinkage along the supply line. I guess in time we will find out. :)

Just check the time. The internet has a rhythm when it comes to this war.
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Damn, twitter must be really powerful if it stalls the entire Russian army for weeks on end.
 
Old school RPG's, AK's, ammo, and other russian shit is all over the world. At some point some slav somewhere sold that stuff out the back door. Heck that seems to be one of Russia's biggest problems even now.
You can't flood a shithole like Ukraine with 10,000 of these really expensive things not expect slavs to do what comes natural to them. Especially since a big chunk of Ukraines fighting force are conscripts to poor or dumb to figure out how to escape to the EU.

300 tanks? A few aircraft? And Ukraine is saying they are running out already? OK So they ether have a really low success rate or there is shrinkage along the supply line. I guess in time we will find out. :)

Just check the time. The internet has a rhythm when it comes to this war.
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Just looked at the inbox and found this nifty video of Ruskies getting bodied.
 
Honestly I'm not terribly worried about it. Stuff like that requires some specialized maintenance over time, I doubt most third world shitheaps are capable of keeping them operational. Look at it this way, how many passenger jets have been shot down in the last 20 years by MANPADS, despite them flowing freely from armories across the middle east?
It's also kind of difficult to take out a passenger jet with something as small as a Stinger. They're made to take out an Mi-24 or MiG-27, not a Tu-95 or airliner. Back in 2003 Baghdad, a DHL Airbus was hit by a strela. The pilots managed to land with differential thrust. The stinger missile is five feet long. The ones used to shoot downlarge planes are the size of telephone poles. El Al is the only carrier to put flare dispensers and infrared jammers on its planes, because many people want to kill Jews and yet they never ask themselves if they're the problem.
 
Old school RPG's, AK's, ammo, and other russian shit is all over the world. At some point some slav somewhere sold that stuff out the back door. Heck that seems to be one of Russia's biggest problems even now.
You can't flood a shithole like Ukraine with 10,000 of these really expensive things not expect slavs to do what comes natural to them. Especially since a big chunk of Ukraines fighting force are conscripts to poor or dumb to figure out how to escape to the EU.

300 tanks? A few aircraft? And Ukraine is saying they are running out already? OK So they ether have a really low success rate or there is shrinkage along the supply line. I guess in time we will find out. :)

Just check the time. The internet has a rhythm when it comes to this war.
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I'm not saying it won't be sold, I'm saying the high tech shit is mostly going to end up useless junk to whatever towelhead buys it. I'm well aware of how arms flow. The difference between the items you listed and high tech shit is that those items you listed can be maintained by an illiterate goat fucker, a javelin cannot. Ever wonder why the taliban/al queda never used any of those stingers they had in the 80s when the US invaded? It's because they were all completely useless.
 
I'm not saying it won't be sold, I'm saying the high tech shit is mostly going to end up useless junk to whatever towelhead buys it. I'm well aware of how arms flow. The difference between the items you listed and high tech shit is that those items you listed can be maintained by an illiterate goat fucker, a javelin cannot. Ever wonder why the taliban/al queda never used any of those stingers they had in the 80s when the US invaded? It's because they were all completely useless.
As the old meme goes
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Historically you could always get a lot for it.
Gold isn't practical for day to day use now since people demand instant transaction. Today its for long term storage for wealth. Take a gold coin from 2000 years ago. That same gold coin today still has value where as fiat money comes and goes.

Chyna has been hording gold quietly on the down low
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Russia has been bulking up
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The USA keeps around 8000 tons and most other national central banks have been stacking lately as a hedge bet.
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And then there is Canada.
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Time to buy Gold?
 
@K-Hole actually it might end up going another way. In the suburbs, and rural areas, people might band together and form new, smaller communities. The end of the federal government might not be the end of civilization. The people who get compared to cattle are niggers. There are herds of niggercattle. It takes more to push whites and Hispanics over the edge.
Shit, it might not even be much of a change. The collapse of the British Empire didn't mean that Britain turned into Mad Max. The collapse of the American empire might be similar. Shit, it could end up being a good thing if the Jews lose their ZOG hegemon.

Reminder that your local zoning board has more influence on your everyday life than our retarded President. This would be especially true if the Federal Reserve didn't exist, or if it was at least still pinned to gold.
 
He's not entirely wrong. Russia simply doesn't have the domestic industry to replace outside parts, it's why their modernization programs hit a damn wall after 2014. It'll take a lot of time for the domestic military manufacturing industry to provide anything worth a damn.
It goes without saying that the industry is lacklustre but elaborating on it by misconstruing things only undermines its author's claim. Take for instance the issue of budgeting: No outsider can really gauge whether or not Russia's military spending has dwindled considerably, with some sources having claimed that it's circa 60 billion dollars while others scaled it up as high as 200 billion. I wouldn't address the source point-by-point because it is a banal propaganda outlet. On twitter. During an armed conflict.
 
Right now we are spending military expenditure to destroy Russian military how is this a bad investment? Why are we saving the military budget up for? So we could destroy more sand niggers? For once the budget which you or I wont see or will not be circulated into society is actually being used for its jackpot purpose. Killing Chinks on top of this would be the icing on the cake in terms of what military budgets should go towards.
Yes, making Russia even more reliant on the Chinese and thus letting them plunder Siberia for all the resources and food they need is a great idea. Like I understand our leadership for their retarded 1980s-level geostrategy because they're going to make money anyway, but anyone actually defending it is retarded. Is someone paying you?
 
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