Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Spicey McHaggis]

Ahh Marxist and Islamist killing eachother, you would think those commie fucks learned that Muslims aren't reliable allies after Iran.

Psh, they should have learned it long before that. The soviets had a large Muslim population, and look how well things there worked out....

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

It is your job to post it, then.

I'm not directly tied into that side, and I'm not planning on installing Telegram because I trust Russian software about as much as I trust Chinese. It's more a case of I'm getting enough second- or third-hand information that I can infer I'm missing the bigger picture. I can pick up some slack on /pol/ and /int/, see what pops up there, and I'll take a trawl back through my youtube history to see if anything there was using Russian data.

 

[capefear56]

• I can believe they shell civilians and know it's a possibility because they're shelling cities. That's part of why Russia sets up the corridors, to get civilians out and if fighters want to slink out, leaving their gear behind, then that's a bonus. It's a hellish tactic but it's tried and true from the Russian perspective.
• The evidence of Russia shelling the humanitarian corridors has been nonexistent and is claimed by the Ukrainian government, who has demonstrably lied about a number of things to date.
  • I personally think it's bogus just because Occam's Razor says that Russia is repeating what they did in Syria, where I'm not aware of any accusations they bombed the very corridor they laid out. They used them a lot and it resulted in millions of Syrians being displaced which is a separate moral issue to lay upon Russia. However, why would they kill civilians leaving when it benefits them? Why change it up now in Ukraine when the world is watching?
  • Who benefits more, Russia bombing their own corridor they said to use or Ukraine from lying about Russian intentionally killing civilians? (rhetorical)
• I've also read a claim that Russia mined a humanitarian corridor which is just retarded. Interestingly there's no actual evidence of this even still.

1. It's more than just a "hellish tactic" - it's a fucking war crime in the truest sense.

2. Comparing a full-blown invasion of another country with hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground to lending minor military assistance in a conflict they were already winning is not at all a fair thing to do. The air force is a separate component from the conscripts manning towed guns.

• "Why change it now when the world is watching?" - why invade Ukraine and make yourself into an international pariah? If you're talking about what is and isn't rational and using that as a basis to judge Russia's decisions, that ship has long since sailed.
• Also, what makes you think Russian high command has any control over what their troops are doing on the frontlines? You assume they aren't shelling the corridors because they're presumably a disciplined force with reliable lines of communication, which has been demonstrated to not be the case in many instances. I also doubt they were ordered to shell that nuclear power plant but they did anyways.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Psh, they should have learned it long before that. The soviets had a large Muslim population, and look how well things there worked out....

Ehh the post was for the western commies who seem totally ignorant of islams nature, eastern commie know damn well they have to shot first, Iran is just one of those times that the Muslims shot first.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

When this whole thing is over, I want a serious count on how many fell over into fucking water, because I have not stopped pondering about how the fuck that happens.

My guess for at least how one of them did.

"Comrade Vladimir! Let's cross that wooden bridge over that creek!"
"Rodger that Comrade! Moving our GLORIOUS T-90 over the wooden bridge!"
"Sir! Comrade Reznov! Are you sure that's wise?"
"Don't worry Dimitry! What's the worst that can happen?
*Wooden bridge instantly collapses under the weight of the 50 ton tank, flipping it over and into the water*

 

[Disheveled Human]

Judging just based off the videos and carnage in said videos estimating 10k-15k dead Russians is not a crazy estimate. This war is probably the most documented one in history not only because of technological progress but because it being a defensive war the west is supporting. I would be nervous as a Russian entering this war with the walls of defense being presented. You got US Satellite and Intel, NLAWS, Panzerfaust 3's, Javalins and Stinger missiles being shot in most platoons. I am almost certain NATO is sending in skilled troops and artillery as well. It's a fucking nasty meat grinder of death.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Maybe these fagots should leave and go home. How many Ukrainians Killed Russian Children? vs how many Russians Killing Ukrainian Children?

Goddamn posts like this make me so fucking ass mad on the internet. Leading scared POWs out of a van and shooting them in the leg is gay as fuck and if you have to come to Kiwi Farms so you can beat off to people suffering in this way for no fucking reason, you are a nigger. It is very fucking telling that the only death-thirsting retards posting in these threads since the beginning have been the same dipshits suck-starting themselves over dead Russians.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

My guess for at least how one of them did.

"Comrade Vladimir! Let's cross that wooden bridge over that creek!"
"Rodger that Comrade! Moving our GLORIOUS T-90 over the wooden bridge!"
"Sir! Comrade Reznov! Are you sure that's wise?"
"Don't worry Dimitry! What's the worst that can happen?
*Wooden bridge instantly collapses under the weight of the 50 ton tank, flipping it over and into the water*

You forgot to add they where all drunk, including the tank.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Goddamn posts like this make me so fucking ass mad on the internet. Leading scared POWs out of a van and shooting them in the leg is gay as fuck and if you have to come to Kiwi Farms so you can beat off to people suffering in this way for no fucking reason, you are a nigger. It is very fucking telling that the only death-thirsting retards posting in these threads since the beginning have been the same dipshits suck-starting themselves over dead Russians.

Fuck off Russia should lay the fuck off or die, this is war not share and tell faggot. Apparently they did not even get shot in the leg they are artillery victims.

 

[The best and greatest]

You should be scared of a nation whose ideology (Chinese flavored communism) demands world domination by its very nature, and a nation that keeps making strides toward it with every spy placed among Western corporations and politicians.

They don't need to take it over by force, they just need to do what they do to Russia what they do to Africa. That's been a huge goal of China with the Belt and Road Initiative. To China, Russia is basically a dog. Defense (Russia's nuclear arsenal), utility (resources), and of course food (literally--they want Russia's large food/fertilizer exports--and metaphorically--they want Russian territory). Encircling China with Russia and India as allies would be far better for the Western world's continued survival.

Chinese economic downturn? Temporary setback, just like every other time. The Chinese economy has been declared dead as many times as bitcoin. The only real worry is a few decades in the future when the One Child Policy bites them in the ass, but this is fucking China, they'll just force all the old people to accept China-quality robots for eldercare and they'll still have more 18-35 year olds than the West.

If Putin had a more realistic estimate of his forces' capability and committed to expelling the Ukrainians from Lugansk and Donetsk, I don't think the West would've escalated this into full-scale proxy war. This definitely was a failed gamble on his part, but I can't blame him for trying given how shit the West has been lately i.e. Afghanistan. He still might be able to get a land connection to Crimea out of this though but that's probably not worth all this grief in the long run compared to a more limited goal.

What is it with people on these forums insisting on alliances that are complete non-starters?

The USA will NEVER. EVER. ally with a Russia unwilling to bend the knee to American global hegemony, which in turn would never happen because the man in charge's life ambition is to rebuild the Russian hegemony at the American hegemony's expense. Like what, are we supposed to just meekly bow down to what Russia demands as it's own sphere of influence and sabotage NATO so that we can have a fairweather friend who's trustworthiness is questionable on the best days when we war with China? Not fucking likely m8. To add to this, the people in charge in America have their own reasons to despise the Putin regime for fucking them over. You generally don't make friends with people who have slighted and made a fool out of you by putting your dirty laundry out there.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Goddamn posts like this make me so fucking ass mad on the internet. Leading scared POWs out of a van and shooting them in the leg is gay as fuck and if you have to come to Kiwi Farms so you can beat off to people suffering in this way for no fucking reason, you are a nigger. It is very fucking telling that the only death-thirsting retards posting in these threads since the beginning have been the same dipshits suck-starting themselves over dead Russians.

Would you say you are MAD at the INTERNET?

 

[Aidan]

You do know putting them on Ignore doesn't magically make them disappear, or make their arguments less true, right?

Mods, ban anyone who doesn't agree with everything I post. real talk, I mean honestly, come on.

1. It's more than just a "hellish tactic" - it's a fucking war crime in the truest sense.

Every invasion of a city is going to involve war crimes by this logic. No one takes a city without killing innocent people in terrible ways.

2. Comparing a full-blown invasion of another country with hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground to lending minor military assistance in a conflict they were already winning is not at all a fair thing to do. The air force is a separate component from the conscripts manning towed guns.

• "Why change it now when the world is watching?" - why invade Ukraine and make yourself into an international pariah? If you're talking about what is and isn't rational and using that as a basis to judge Russia's decisions, that ship has long since sailed.
• Also, what makes you think Russian high command has any control over what their troops are doing on the frontlines? You assume they aren't shelling the corridors because they're presumably a disciplined force with reliable lines of communication, which has been demonstrated to not be the case in many instances. I also doubt they were ordered to shell that nuclear power plant but they did anyways.

There's no good way to take a city and Russia's strategy is to shell them into submission. They didn't invent this doctrine just for Ukraine.

>minor military assistance
They sent like 70,000 troops to Syria, that's about 1/3 of this invasion force.
>Russia can't control their own artillery troops
Yeah I'm sure when the officer says not to fire they keep firing anyway on people and infrastructure they can't even see just out of pure spite.

Frankly all of this post is just talking out of your ass. I think you're vehemently anti-Russian and are going to endlessly argue about anything that isn't also vehemently anti-Russian because everyone knows if you don't feel that way then you support the invasion of Ukraine and want to see innocent people suffer.

 

[capefear56]

You can actually, through ERA packages, camo schemes, markings, and models. I understand you’re slow on the uptake, but in general, no, both sides don’t field the same tanks with the same ERA and camo and other upgrades.

For more damaged vehicles, if you can’t distinguish the model itself easily, you can do other inferences, namely geolocation, other destroyed vehicles around it, or what the base model is. If it’s a T-72 then it’s almost certainly Russian as the Ukrainians don’t have many. Seriously, check the list yourself.

It's the same goddamn tank. Russians doubled down on a fundamentally flawed tank design with essentially modernized variants of the T-72 given new designations. They slapped on some useless 70s/80s ERA and thermals for the gunner and called it a new tank.

 

[Optimus Prime]

So...did Russia just go two fronts on this shit already?

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-702402

 

[Disheveled Human]

It's the same goddamn tank. Russians doubled down on a fundamentally flawed tank design with essentially modernized variants of the T-72 given new designations. They slapped on some useless 70s/80s ERA and thermals for the gunner and called it a new tank.

To the Russians credit the thermals are super deadly to TDF of Ukraine.

 

[The best and greatest]

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Video posted to 4chan of our brave and noble Ukrainian allies shooting POWs in the knee while already in custody. First portion is all talking to wounded guys, skip to 2:30 if you want to see the shooting.

Good. A dead soldier is a waste of potential. A crippled war veteran returning home is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Josterman]

For reference this patch features wolf Akela from the 1973 Soviet "Adventures of Mowgli", featuring his famous "This will be a glorious hunt" quote. I am almost positive that the deceased was part of Russia's The Wolves' Hundred Cossacks. Quite notorious.

So it’s a Russian bootleg then or something similar to the punisher skull nonsense

 

[mr.moon1488]

Good. A dead soldier is a waste of potential. A crippled war veteran returning home is the gift that keeps on giving.

Ukrainian simps salivating over warcrimes is rapidly becoming the Slavic version of mutt's law.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

So...did Russia just go two fronts on this shit already?

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-702402

Nah this shit happens over there pretty often. Armenia and Azerbaijan hate each other and have dumb frozen conflict that goes hot every few years. Russia is there as peacekeepers because both sides can tolerate them, and they're the only ones who can practically deploy there.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

So...did Russia just go two fronts on this shit already?

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-702402

I've been hearing rumors Russia has been pulling troops from Armenia and Georgia to support Ukraine. I'll have to try and find some numbers on that, because I've been specifically citing that as one of Putin's many bad options, though I didn't expect it to bite him in the ass this soon.