GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[Just Some Other Guy]

Was looking at a 3070 myself, but I couldn't bring myself to downgrade from 11gb of vram to 8.

 

[WULULULULU]

I've decided to show this as my wishlist parts for assembling a computer. A few notes include possible replacement for the cooler with a be quiet! or Noctua cooler (if they are available in my country) and no Win10 OS since I will go ahead with Linux. Otherwise, bawk or shit on whatever incompatibilities I made on my would-be build. Also, I have no idea about the motherboard/keyboard/mouse since I am prioritizing performance over looking cool.

 

[Overly Serious]

So AMD has just released RSR which is FSR that works on (pretty much) all games without needing developer support. That is it's driver-level upscaling. And apparently it works very, very well.

I'm now tempted to buy a mid-level Radeon card of the current generation given prices are starting to fall. We're only six months out from the next gen so it might not be the best decision. But... this is very neat.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I've decided to show this as my wishlist parts for assembling a computer. A few notes include possible replacement for the cooler with a be quiet! or Noctua cooler (if they are available in my country) and no Win10 OS since I will go ahead with Linux. Otherwise, bawk or shit on whatever incompatibilities I made on my would-be build. Also, I have no idea about the motherboard/keyboard/mouse since I am prioritizing performance over looking cool.

If anything, get rid of the crap spinner and put an nvme drive on the board. Are you a us shopper and do you have a micro center anywhere nearby?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

For those building a computer or looking to buy an NVME, there is a new DRAM-less budget king in town and it looks spectacular. PCIe 4.0, 600TBW, 1TB $115. It's the WD Black SN770.

Long post with some benchmarks. Very long thumbnails.

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But as usual that doesn't mean much in games(for now). At the top is the SATA drives. and they're not that much slower.

More benchmarks here

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

For those building a computer or looking to buy an NVME, there is a new DRAM-less budget king in town and it looks spectacular. PCIe 4.0, 600TBW, 1TB $115. It's the WD Black SN770.

Long post with some benchmarks. Very long thumbnails.

Spoiler

Steam game installation
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But as usual that doesn't mean much in games(for now). At the top is the SATA drives. and they're not that much slower.
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More benchmarks here

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/

Eh, those charts just show how little of a performance gap there is between like the top 50% of SSDs. That drive is $130 on amazon (US) atm which is a bit pricey for a budget 1tb.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Eh, those charts just show how little of a performance gap there is between like the top 50% of SSDs. That drive is $130 on amazon (US) atm which is a bit pricey for a budget 1tb.

What the heck, SSD prices seems to have gone up. I was expecting a $/€115 MSRP drive to go on flash sale for $/€105 or so. It's €170 over here! WD reportedly lost 16 billion gigabytes worth of chips a month ago so maybe that's part of the problem.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

What the heck, SSD prices seems to have gone up. I was expecting a $/€115 MSRP drive to go on flash sale for $/€105 or so. It's €170 over here! WD reportedly lost 16 billion gigabytes worth of chips a month ago so maybe that's part of the problem.

Nah, it's WD. I always expect their stuff to just cost more like Samsung. Name brand and all that jazz. The only thing I know about Euroland is they usually spend more for components. For US shoppers on a budget, Best Buy refurbished drives are just fine. Can get 1tb samsung 970s/980s for under $100. If you have a Micro Center nearby, the Inland drives are just fine and under $100 for 1tb.

Most people will never notice the difference between most SSDs. Even pcie3/pcie4 probably isn't noticeable. Just grab what's cheap if it isn't for a boot drive. Backup anything you really care about.

 

[WULULULULU]

If anything, get rid of the crap spinner and put an nvme drive on the board. Are you a us shopper and do you have a micro center anywhere nearby?

You mean Bangladesh? lol. Crap spinner, you mean the Seagate or the Vulcan SSD?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

So AMD has just released RSR which is FSR that works on (pretty much) all games without needing developer support. That is it's driver-level upscaling. And apparently it works very, very well.

I'm now tempted to buy a mid-level Radeon card of the current generation given prices are starting to fall. We're only six months out from the next gen so it might not be the best decision. But... this is very neat.

FSR 2.0 is the big news for me. More details should be known on Wednesday at GDC.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

The amount of people tripping over themselves to buy nearly $800 3070tis is amusing.

*Edit* EVGA selling one for $720, so add in shipping + tax. Reddit: "I actually got one...still feeling like this is just a dream "
LOL

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Just a heads up: 6700xts were in stock at AMD direct for hours this morning for $480.

Can't be beat at that price.

 

[Brain Problems]

Just a heads up: 6700xts were in stock at AMD direct for hours this morning for $480.

Can't be beat at that price.

Boy I wish I saw this earlier.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I was thinking of following the often repeated advice of "build a rig now before the price of other parts rise, then get a GPU later." I've been wanting to build a VR rig for a while.

The problem I'm running into is value vs quality. eg. The Ryzen 7 5800x is £300, but the Ryzen 5 5600x is £200 for what looks on paper to be a minor performance difference. This kind of logic stretches across all parts.

Just a heads up: 6700xts were in stock at AMD direct for hours this morning for $480.

Can't be beat at that price.

Still £700+ here.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Boy I wish I saw this earlier.

Every Thursday it seems

 

[Stasi]

I went and bit the bullet on a 3050 for £280. Still well over the RRP but the cheapest its been, so far pretty happy with it. I'm only after 1080p and it runs RDR2 fine which is probably the most demanding game I have.

Did start having a weird issue on boot sometimes where PC doesn't boot and I get a continuous beeps. According to Lenovo's website the error code means its either a keyboard issue or a GPU issue. I'm hoping my keyboard is dying or at worst I didn't seat the GPU properly or something. I'll be real upset if I just blew a lot of money on a new GPU that's about to die.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The problem I'm running into is value vs quality. eg. The Ryzen 7 5800x is £300, but the Ryzen 5 5600x is £200 for what looks on paper to be a minor performance difference. This kind of logic stretches across all parts.

For games and VR I don't see the Ryzen 7 making sense at 50% more money, more cores won't help if the game won't make use of it. You can also easily overclock either of them, higher clockspeed on fewer cores always trumps a higher core count in games.


I updated my drives and I have to say, the Radeon drivers was mankinds greatest mistake.

 

[WULULULULU]

I updated my drives and I have to say, the Radeon drivers was mankinds greatest mistake.

Welp, guess I'm putting the 6700 away from my wishlist then.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Welp, guess I'm putting the 6700 away from my wishlist then.

It could be the latest Elden Ring patch that is fucking things up, it installed just before I played it last night. It crashed repeatedly and the AMD crash reporter thing kept popping up. But I also updated my Radeon drivers a couple of weeks ago to the vidya ones and somehow it disabled sound, networking and a couple of USB ports. A reboot fixed it but that shouldn't happen.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

It could be the latest Elden Ring patch that is fucking things up, it installed just before I played it last night. It crashed repeatedly and the AMD crash reporter thing kept popping up. But I also updated my Radeon drivers a couple of weeks ago to the vidya ones and somehow it disabled sound, networking and a couple of USB ports. A reboot fixed it but that shouldn't happen.

Did you use DDU? I've always been paranoid about doing direct upgrades on both Radeon and Nvidia drivers.