Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Josterman]

Only that moron would see "overestimating aspects of russias military" as a vast conspiracy. Literally every country on earth puffs up their military, some just do it more than others. Also for all the Russian militaries flaws, it's big and has a fuckload of gear, so it's entirely reasonable to think they have significant power.

Bill has never studied Russian history at all

 

[Hell on Earth]

Now that the list of destroyed Russian equipment with visual evidence is about to hit 2,000

That's not true.

Most of the equipment lost was captured by the Ukries, not destroyed.

Again, this is like how people think that the word "casualty" means KIA when it actually means a soldier that has been KIA'd, wounded, missing in action or being made a POW.

And I would bet most of the destroyed equipment was actually destroyed by artillery guided by drones instead of ATGMs since we don't get a lot combat footage where ATGMs are used.

 

[Techpriest]

Bill has never studied Russian history at all

No, you’re just obsessed with someone on Twitter. A quick Google search or basic knowledge would tell you the Russians have a rather large military with supposedly modern equipment and lots of it.

That's not true.

Most of the equipment lost was captured by the Ukries, not destroyed.

Again, this is like how people think that the word "casualty" means KIA when it actually means a soldier that has been KIA'd, wounded or missing in action.

And I would bet most of the destroyed equipment was actually destroyed by artillery guided by drones instead of ATGMs since we don't get a lot combat footage where ATGMs are used.

About 50 to 70% of the captured stuff is stripped for ammunition, weapons, and useful parts then torched. The Ukrainians are using a lot of what they’re capturing but the captured gear isn’t always usable stuff. Sometimes the Abandooner ditches for a good reason, not just because he wants to give Igor a Tor SAM system.

 

[Narcotics]

imagine how funny it would be if putin dropped the nukes over at the oscars while live.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

imagine how funny it would be if putin dropped the nukes over at the oscars while live.

That just brought a tear of joy to my eye. If all he nukes is LA, I say we just let it slide. Pretty sure it falls under the definition of a public service. It certainly would go a long ways towards helping California deal with its homeless problems.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

About 50 to 70% of the captured stuff is stripped for ammunition, weapons, and useful parts then torched. The Ukrainians are using a lot of what they’re capturing but the captured gear isn’t always usable stuff. Sometimes the Abandooner ditches for a good reason, not just because he wants to give Igor a Tor SAM system.

Not to mention it's doubtful they're getting most of those captured vehicles back intact. Even if a peace treaty happens where they demand their equipment back, I can see Ukraine torching them and saying "Sorry, we found it like this."

 

[Shittus Maximus]

imagine how funny it would be if putin dropped the nukes over at the oscars while live.

I would petition to give him the presidential medal of freedom

 

[Techpriest]

Not to mention it's doubtful they're getting most of those captured vehicles back intact. Even if a peace treaty happens where they demand their equipment back, I can see Ukraine torching them and saying "Sorry, we found it like this."

I’d hate to be the Russian or Ukrainian cops trying to get armored vehicles back from the gypsies or the farmers. Imagine being the poor OMON guy who has to repo a T-90A

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Not to mention it's doubtful they're getting most of those captured vehicles back intact. Even if a peace treaty happens where they demand their equipment back, I can see Ukraine torching them and saying "Sorry, we found it like this."

A fair amount are probably torched on the spot if possible. I suspect that's what some of those videos we've seen of tanks getting blown up have been showing, especially the ones where the vehicles aren't moving and the ukies have very little sense of urgency. I doubt the ukies have the recovery vehicles necessary to haul most of those tanks out of there and repair them.

 

[Josterman]

No, you’re just obsessed with someone on Twitter. A quick Google search or basic knowledge would tell you the Russians have a rather large military with supposedly modern equipment and lots of it.


About 50 to 70% of the captured stuff is stripped for ammunition, weapons, and useful parts then torched. The Ukrainians are using a lot of what they’re capturing but the captured gear isn’t always usable stuff. Sometimes the Abandooner ditches for a good reason, not just because he wants to give Igor a Tor SAM system.

Agree to disagree but this guy profilic. I will just end it here I’m trying to covering all fronts at the best of my ability.

 

[Techpriest]

A fair amount are probably torched on the spot if possible. I suspect that's what some of those videos we've seen of tanks getting blown up have been showing, especially the ones where the vehicles aren't moving and the ukies have very little sense of urgency. I doubt the ukies have the recovery vehicles necessary to haul most of those tanks out of there and repair them.

Still found it funny my “RPG-7 takes out T-90” bingo got filled by some Ukrainian TDF guy casually demo’ing an abandoned one with it.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Still found it funny my “RPG-7 takes out T-90” bingo got filled by some Ukrainian TDF guy casually demo’ing an abandoned one with it.

Do you have a link to that, I need to see this.

 

[kuuu]

http://85.173.189.23:8901/
usb 2.70 kHz
3219.01
Message to Ukrainians in Odessa to stay the fuck away from military buildings/ships/infrastructure. Shit will get bombed.

via dvach

 

[Techpriest]

Do you have a link to that, I need to see this.

It was an NLAW most likely, my apologies. Direct fire though.

There IS a picture of a Ukrainian marine posing with an RPG-7 with a destroyed T-90A in the background though. I need to find that picture.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

two exploded benises from two different ethnicities from the Russian Federation

Spoiler: Russian benis

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Spoiler: Chechen benis

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you can tell which is which cuz circumcision

Now I get why the redditors are so eager to go there. It's free reassignment surgery.

 

[Screamer]

Goes on Twitter and seeing retards saying the POW being mistreated videos are fake. With people saying the gunshots would cause legs to explode and tonnes of blood. Shaking my head at how people are conditioned to excuse evidence contradictory to their narrative as fake. Thinking what fools they must be.

Then thinking, "shit I have no idea if those videos are actually real or not."

 

[Techpriest]

Goes on Twitter and seeing retards saying the POW being mistreated videos are fake. With people saying the gunshots would cause legs to explode and tonnes of blood. Shaking my head at how people are conditioned to excuse evidence contradictory to their narrative as fake. Thinking what fools they must be.

Then thinking, "shit I have no idea if those videos are actually real or not."

Yeah that’s the thing. I’d expect more damage visible, but the video is such shit quality it’s hard to know.

 

[Kerr Avon]

It’s conspiracy time with bill palmer

https://mobile.twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1508209338510360579

The next time you feel the need to share anything from that clown , log off and seek the peace of the noose.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

On a different note, here's the follow up video of the last video about the Russian air industry that I posted:

TL;DW: A couple weeks back Putin signed a law letting Russian airliners re-register their leased aircraft in Russia. Effectively allowing Russian airliners to steal their leased planes and get new airworthiness certificates and insurance from Russia instead of international companies that can be forced to revoke them by sanctions. Bermuda and Ireland most effected. Russian airliners next problem is going to maintenance. There's a bit more detail about maintenance, but the short of it is that regular maintenance requires regularly replacing parts that have received a certain amount of wear to ensure safety. Russia can no longer buy spare parts due to the sanctions. Beyond the obvious problem, its a problem for those airworthiness certificates, which to meet international standards requires using certified parts that they can track from manufacturer to aircraft if a problem is discovered.
Theoretically Russia can just manufacture it's own replacement parts for western built planes, but that'll kill the value of the planes as using uncertified parts means that their proper maintenance can no longer be assured. Their first alternative would be ground the western planes they don't need and use them for parts for the remainder; then once the war ends and they can buy parts again, they can buy parts for the planes they cannibalized. But that'll only hold them for a few months to several months before they start running out of some items.
Their next option for western planes would be to buy parts through a country that they're still on good terms with. Such a country would be risking themselves being slapped with a ban on being sold aircraft parts. Russia's apparently already attempting this option. Some government official by the name of Valery Kudinov said China had already told them "no", and they were in talk with Turkey and India. He was promptly fired for revealing that.
Their final option would be to turn to Russian built aircraft. Unfortunately everything they've got has some key parts that were foreign built. These at least Russia can manufacture replacements for as the plane manufacturer can certify parts for its planes. However the whole process of getting things designed/integrated/certified/manufactured could take months to years.

In short, in a few months Russian aviation authorities are going to have to start choosing between grounding western built aircraft, or compromising on the international safety standards they adopted many years ago. Unless they can convince another country to risk the wrath of the US and serve as a middleman and sell them the parts instead.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Going to the BMPT "Terminator", given how urban combat is a meat grinder, and we've been seeing a lot of it, Russia shouldn't be holding back a vehicle designed to counter some of the weaknesses armored vehicles face in urban combat, well, again they're not holding them back, they can't field them in combat, in December they finally fielding some on paper by giving them to a regiment, but it only amounted to nine total vehicles.

The Russians only have like 12 BMPTs. I think the Russians weren't in that much of a hurry to adopt them because they can do the same job with regular Shilkas. The Shilka isn't optimized for urban combat but it works well enough. Someone probably did cost-benefit analysis and determined that continuing to use regular old Shilkas was cheaper than having BMPTs.
Also outside of Mariupol, the fighting has *not* [yet] been in urban areas. It has been in rural and suburban areas. Urban areas are getting attacked with long distance weapons like missiles, artillery, and airstrikes, but we haven't seen the heavy Grozny style urban warfare yet.