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[Kane Lives]

Now that Russia is fucking up their invasion and backing off from Kiev (focusing on eastern Ukraine), they'll be gushing about how Brandon's calls for regime change scared Putin. I'm calling it now.

Edit: 30 seconds after I finish this post, I hop over to RealClearPolitics, and lo and behold:

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Bold of Joe to take credit for the blood of dead Ukrainians spilled in a war where he contributed nothing.

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

I am genuinely surprised they haven't done something simple and profitable like just legalize weed. I think I've said that in here before, but it's even more true now, because that's essentially free money across the board

Because that would mean they can't keep stringing along people for the next election.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Because that would mean they can't keep stringing along people for the next election.

And as other people said further up in the thread, legalizing didn’t really do anything. The cartels marketshare is still skyhigh, the tax revenue wasn’t as good as they thought, and the people the legal weed attracts are absolutely useless.

 

[Mega Man II Intro - GB]

I like weed and I'm still voting as far-right as I possibly can. Because I hate all other drugs and the only way to stop them is to close the fucking borders.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Bold of Joe to take credit for the blood of dead Ukrainians spilled in a war where he contributed nothing.

>Be Joe
>Claim Russia bad, Ukraine good
>Keep poking Rusia till they get mad
>Russia gets mad, invades Ukraine
>tell Ukraine "lol good luck with that, you're on your own"
>at the same time not only virtue signal support for Ukraine but STILL talk shit about Russia
>Russia eventually says "fuck this shit, I'm leaving"
>Take credit and go "I did that"

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Bold of Joe to take credit for the blood of dead Ukrainians spilled in a war where he contributed nothing.

Hey, he contributed something...he caused it with that "If there is a minor incursion then we won't do anything" gaffe.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

>Be Joe
>Claim Russia bad, Ukraine good
>Keep poking Rusia till they get mad
>Russia gets mad, invades Ukraine
>tell Ukraine "lol good luck with that, you're on your own"
>at the same time not only virtue signal support for Ukraine but STILL talk shit about Russia
>Russia eventually says "fuck this shit, I'm leaving"
>Take credit and go "I did that"

Now that Russia is fucking up their invasion and backing off from Kiev (focusing on eastern Ukraine), they'll be gushing about how Brandon's calls for regime change scared Putin. I'm calling it now.

Edit: 30 seconds after I finish this post, I hop over to RealClearPolitics, and lo and behold:

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Bold of Joe to take credit for the blood of dead Ukrainians spilled in a war where he contributed nothing.

They won't be gloating when they find out that soon, they'll have nothing to blame the high inflation/gas prices on (or they'll just go back to blaming Drumpf/find a new scapegoat that isn't them, I don't fucking know at this point).

 

[Absolutego]

Because that would mean they can't keep stringing along people for the next election.

Nah, it's just not a galvanizing political issue anymore. The places where the population even remotely cared already legalized it in their states. The remaining areas profit too much from the extra prison labor and are morally against it.
This is the same administration whose VP literally had to be ordered by the Supreme Court to stop denying nonviolent offenders parole in her capacity as CA Attorney General because the state was saving too much money keeping them around, stamping license plates for $2 an hour. Opposition to federal weed legalization is a bipartisan issue for the most part.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Now that Russia is fucking up their invasion and backing off from Kiev (focusing on eastern Ukraine), they'll be gushing about how Brandon's calls for regime change scared Putin. I'm calling it now.

Edit: 30 seconds after I finish this post, I hop over to RealClearPolitics, and lo and behold:

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I mean, couldn’t Putin call this campaign a success if he just got Donestsk, Donbas, and Crimea under Russian control? And just get a written agreement from Zelensky to not join NATO?

Bold of Joe to take credit for the blood of dead Ukrainians spilled in a war where he contributed nothing.

Ain’t that what Americans do though, and have for a few decades?

And as other people said further up in the thread, legalizing didn’t really do anything. The cartels marketshare is still skyhigh, the tax revenue wasn’t as good as they thought, and the people the legal weed attracts are absolutely useless.

Also, couldn’t cartels just use American land to grow, and later fight over that? Not sure if a Breaking Bad scenario is in the cards, but I’m sure that if you got a plot in the middle of nowhere and have farming knowledge, people will find you.

 

[I-chi]

As Machiavellian as it sounds, I want there to be more shitshows between now and election day.

These creeps ruined everything to get rid of Orange Man and regain power. I want them to reap the fruits of their ruination. I don't even want "my" side to regain power, necessarily; I just want them to lose all of it, because power is what they covet above all else.

They will rule nothing and be miserable.

I haven't quite found the right words to mirror this, but it's exactly what I feel. So I'll second to yours.

Even if we're caught in the collateral, I want these people to suffer. They deserve to rule nothing less than a kingdom of ash, salt, and dung.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

I mean, couldn’t Putin call this campaign a success if he just got Donestsk, Donbas, and Crimea under Russian control? And just get a written agreement from Zelensky to not join NATO?

Yes, because that's many of the things that the Russians have been demanding from the start to finish.

 

[Kane Lives]

Ain’t that what Americans do though, and have for a few decades?

See, for those wars, at least you have US hardware (airplanes in bombing Serbia, Libya) or US troops (Operation Desert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan) involved so the standing US president can feasibly claim to have a hand in it.

In Ukraine, the US (and EU) simply sat with their dick in their hands, except for sanctions (this one I'm not convinced in actually ending the war, but it will definitely cripple Russia in the short term), some shipments of MANPADs and maybe reinforcing the Polish border so that Ruski don't get any funny ideas.

Claiming any sort of credit from this shit-flinging that the US ran away from as soon as Russia reminded everyone they had nukes is the height of arrogance.

 

[Meat Target]

See, for those wars, at least you have US hardware (airplanes in bombing Serbia, Libya) or US troops (Operation Desert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan) involved so the standing US president can feasibly claim to have a hand in it.

In Ukraine, the US (and EU) simply sat with their dick in their hands, except for sanctions (this one I'm not convinced in actually ending the war, but it will definitely cripple Russia in the short term), some shipments of MANPADs and maybe reinforcing the Polish border so that Ruski don't get any funny ideas.

Claiming any sort of credit from this shit-flinging that the US ran away from as soon as Russia reminded everyone they had nukes is the height of arrogance.

Presidents still get credit, or blame, for whatever goes down on their watch.

 

[thx1138]

See, for those wars, at least you have US hardware (airplanes in bombing Serbia, Libya) or US troops (Operation Desert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan) involved so the standing US president can feasibly claim to have a hand in it.

In Ukraine, the US (and EU) simply sat with their dick in their hands, except for sanctions (this one I'm not convinced in actually ending the war, but it will definitely cripple Russia in the short term), some shipments of MANPADs and maybe reinforcing the Polish border so that Ruski don't get any funny ideas.

Claiming any sort of credit from this shit-flinging that the US ran away from as soon as Russia reminded everyone they had nukes is the height of arrogance.

Yeah but the press is desperate to salvage Joepedo's presidency and will do anything anything anything to shore it up. Anything to shut people up about $4 gas. Anything to shut people up about hyperinflation coming. Anything to shut people up about 150k mexican locusts storming the southern border. Anything to shut people up about food shortages. "I wum the world...you know, the world war thing, in Ukr...look, there's a thing, with, it's Putin." They need that. They need it to happen.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I feel like I'm trapped in a half assed rendition of William Johnstone's 'Out of the Ashes'. Hopefully this doesn't wind up with a nuke war like that book did.

 

[chiobu]

Poll: Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups​

Former President Trump is leading President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Monday.

If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided.

Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.

The poll, while very early, portends trouble for Democrats in their 2024 effort to maintain control of the White House after taking it back less than two years ago. Trump has repeatedly hinted that he’s considering another bid for the presidency and remains deeply popular among the GOP’s conservative base.

Even if Trump and Biden choose not to run in 2024, Democrats may face some challenges. The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey found Harris leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a current favorite for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, by a scant 2-point margin.

In that scenario, Harris takes 40 percent support to DeSantis’s 38 percent support.

Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey, said that Trump’s early leads over both Harris and Biden speak less to the former president’s popularity and more to Biden and his administration’s current challenges with voters.

The poll found Biden’s current approval at just 39 percent, while majorities of respondents said that both the U.S. economy and the country as a whole are on the wrong track.

“I would not give a lot of weight to trial heats right now other than they reflect the weakness of Biden and the administration right now,” Penn said. “That Trump beats them both by a wide margin suggests most Republican nominees once known fully by the public would beat them unless they are able to pivot out of the current nadir in their numbers.”

Trump remains the favorite for the 2024 GOP nod, with 59 percent of Republican voters saying they would support him should he take another shot at the White House. Former Vice President Mike Pence and DeSantis are statistically tied for second place, garnering 11 percent and 10 percent support, respectively.

In the event that Trump doesn’t run again, however, DeSantis supplants Pence as the favorite. In that scenario, 28 percent of Republican voters say they would back DeSantis, while 24 percent say they would support Pence.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is the only other would-be Republican candidate to score double-digits in the poll. Ten percent of GOP voters say they would choose him, according to the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey.

The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey of 1,990 registered voters was conducted March 23-24. It is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and the Harris Poll.

The survey is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics. As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/600146-poll-trump-leads-biden-harris-in-2024-matchups

 

[Absolutego]

Poll: Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups​

Former President Trump is leading President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Monday.

If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided.

Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.

The poll, while very early, portends trouble for Democrats in their 2024 effort to maintain control of the White House after taking it back less than two years ago. Trump has repeatedly hinted that he’s considering another bid for the presidency and remains deeply popular among the GOP’s conservative base.

Even if Trump and Biden choose not to run in 2024, Democrats may face some challenges. The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey found Harris leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a current favorite for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, by a scant 2-point margin.

In that scenario, Harris takes 40 percent support to DeSantis’s 38 percent support.

Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey, said that Trump’s early leads over both Harris and Biden speak less to the former president’s popularity and more to Biden and his administration’s current challenges with voters.

The poll found Biden’s current approval at just 39 percent, while majorities of respondents said that both the U.S. economy and the country as a whole are on the wrong track.

“I would not give a lot of weight to trial heats right now other than they reflect the weakness of Biden and the administration right now,” Penn said. “That Trump beats them both by a wide margin suggests most Republican nominees once known fully by the public would beat them unless they are able to pivot out of the current nadir in their numbers.”

Trump remains the favorite for the 2024 GOP nod, with 59 percent of Republican voters saying they would support him should he take another shot at the White House. Former Vice President Mike Pence and DeSantis are statistically tied for second place, garnering 11 percent and 10 percent support, respectively.

In the event that Trump doesn’t run again, however, DeSantis supplants Pence as the favorite. In that scenario, 28 percent of Republican voters say they would back DeSantis, while 24 percent say they would support Pence.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is the only other would-be Republican candidate to score double-digits in the poll. Ten percent of GOP voters say they would choose him, according to the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey.

The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey of 1,990 registered voters was conducted March 23-24. It is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and the Harris Poll.

The survey is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics. As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/600146-poll-trump-leads-biden-harris-in-2024-matchups

I find Kamala's pervasive polling below Biden fascinating. Like, I detest them both, they're both horribly incompetent profiteering swamp monsters, but I'm at least somewhat confident in Harris' mental faculties (even if they just put her at midwit-level instead of demented). Is it just people liking Biden for having a personality that isn't transparently manufactured or what?

And I continue to immediately be suspicious of any poll that claims Ron "Trump without the personality issues" DeSantis polls worse against these two than Orange Hitler. It makes me think you got too many COVID hysterics representing independents in your sample.

 

[thismanlies]

Poll: Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups​

Former President Trump is leading President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Monday.

If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided.

Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.

The poll, while very early, portends trouble for Democrats in their 2024 effort to maintain control of the White House after taking it back less than two years ago. Trump has repeatedly hinted that he’s considering another bid for the presidency and remains deeply popular among the GOP’s conservative base.

Even if Trump and Biden choose not to run in 2024, Democrats may face some challenges. The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey found Harris leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a current favorite for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, by a scant 2-point margin.

In that scenario, Harris takes 40 percent support to DeSantis’s 38 percent support.

Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey, said that Trump’s early leads over both Harris and Biden speak less to the former president’s popularity and more to Biden and his administration’s current challenges with voters.

The poll found Biden’s current approval at just 39 percent, while majorities of respondents said that both the U.S. economy and the country as a whole are on the wrong track.

“I would not give a lot of weight to trial heats right now other than they reflect the weakness of Biden and the administration right now,” Penn said. “That Trump beats them both by a wide margin suggests most Republican nominees once known fully by the public would beat them unless they are able to pivot out of the current nadir in their numbers.”

Trump remains the favorite for the 2024 GOP nod, with 59 percent of Republican voters saying they would support him should he take another shot at the White House. Former Vice President Mike Pence and DeSantis are statistically tied for second place, garnering 11 percent and 10 percent support, respectively.

In the event that Trump doesn’t run again, however, DeSantis supplants Pence as the favorite. In that scenario, 28 percent of Republican voters say they would back DeSantis, while 24 percent say they would support Pence.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is the only other would-be Republican candidate to score double-digits in the poll. Ten percent of GOP voters say they would choose him, according to the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey.

The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey of 1,990 registered voters was conducted March 23-24. It is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and the Harris Poll.

The survey is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics. As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/600146-poll-trump-leads-biden-harris-in-2024-matchups

Kinda damning that this is coming from the Hill.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Fun fact, in Russia they refer to Joe Biden as "Punch Card Grandpa." (дед на перфокартах)

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Poll: Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups​

Former President Trump is leading President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Monday.

If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided.

Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.

The poll, while very early, portends trouble for Democrats in their 2024 effort to maintain control of the White House after taking it back less than two years ago. Trump has repeatedly hinted that he’s considering another bid for the presidency and remains deeply popular among the GOP’s conservative base.

Even if Trump and Biden choose not to run in 2024, Democrats may face some challenges. The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey found Harris leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a current favorite for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, by a scant 2-point margin.

In that scenario, Harris takes 40 percent support to DeSantis’s 38 percent support.

Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey, said that Trump’s early leads over both Harris and Biden speak less to the former president’s popularity and more to Biden and his administration’s current challenges with voters.

The poll found Biden’s current approval at just 39 percent, while majorities of respondents said that both the U.S. economy and the country as a whole are on the wrong track.

“I would not give a lot of weight to trial heats right now other than they reflect the weakness of Biden and the administration right now,” Penn said. “That Trump beats them both by a wide margin suggests most Republican nominees once known fully by the public would beat them unless they are able to pivot out of the current nadir in their numbers.”

Trump remains the favorite for the 2024 GOP nod, with 59 percent of Republican voters saying they would support him should he take another shot at the White House. Former Vice President Mike Pence and DeSantis are statistically tied for second place, garnering 11 percent and 10 percent support, respectively.

In the event that Trump doesn’t run again, however, DeSantis supplants Pence as the favorite. In that scenario, 28 percent of Republican voters say they would back DeSantis, while 24 percent say they would support Pence.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is the only other would-be Republican candidate to score double-digits in the poll. Ten percent of GOP voters say they would choose him, according to the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey.

The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey of 1,990 registered voters was conducted March 23-24. It is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and the Harris Poll.

The survey is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics. As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/600146-poll-trump-leads-biden-harris-in-2024-matchups

I find Kamala's pervasive polling below Biden fascinating. Like, I detest them both, they're both horribly incompetent profiteering swamp monsters, but I'm at least somewhat confident in Harris' mental faculties (even if they just put her at midwit-level instead of demented). Is it just people liking Biden for having a personality that isn't transparently manufactured or what?

Yes. She's just that unlikable.

Also to all of the Dems who voted Brandon in because ANYONE BUT ORANGE MAN who are now regretting it enough to want to vote Orange Man back in,