Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

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  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%

  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%
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Borscht said:
Not a politician and speaking strictly for myself, but to me the cost of this adventure vastly outweights the listed benefits. Possibly because I never saw a NATO sponsored invasion launched from Ukraine as a real possibility.

Call me a bourgeous philistine, but the stark drop in the quality of life for 144 million people and yet another step towards North Korea-type ostracised police state are a steep price to pay for what amounts to a demilitarized border with Poland.
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That sucks! How bad has quality of life gotten in Russia due to this so far?
UmQasaan said:
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BLACKED speed tracked!
 
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About belingcat saying putin is in bunker mode.
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It is just stupid. If the Russians declassified Putin's secret residence on Cape Idokopas, which was guarded by the fucking Ministry of Internal Affairs, just from the photos of a worker who wanted to take pictures with expensive furniture. I do not know how it was possible to keep a secret bunker in one of the most popular tourist areas for climbers.
 
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Hell on Earth said:
You're braindead if the Russians don't discover and eliminate any large scale glowie ops inside Russia.

Eventually they'll connect the puzzles and tensions will be too high and Russia will become another North Korea or Cuba in terms of paranoia. You're mental if you think this can have any chance of success.
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Please try to read what I wrote in my previous posts. In short: you can't discover glowop if there is no op. There was no op to destroy Soviet Union, for example. In 1989 CIA released the report describing USSR as a stable country with growing economy.
 
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Spicey McHaggis said:
We've been treating them with a healthy dose of skepticism this entire time, I see no reasons to stop now. If the flight data is correct, it could also be a bluff by the Russians.
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I was in a literal twitter war with Belingcat (several years ago) getting to the point where blue checkmarks were beginning to quote me and so I quit twitter at that point before I got tagged as some kind of operative. So I know : )

But its still obviously public Air traffic data. Obviously its less likely that Putin is hammering the red button than it being a bluff or just some kind of transfer but its still alarming.
 
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TheTrumanShow said:
I was in a literal twitter war with Belingcat (several years ago) getting to the point where blue checkmarks were beginning to quote me and so I quit twitter at that point before I got tagged as some kind of operative. So I know : )

But its still obviously public Air traffic data. Obviously its less likely that Putin is hammering the red button than it being a bluff or just some kind of transfer but its still alarming.
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We have been seeing reports the last 5 years or so about the Russians spoofing ship location data, I wonder if they can do that with aircraft as well.
 
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NynchLiggers said:
>Bellingcat
Niggers tongue this twitterfag's anus.
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Fuck them then? I guess.
Spicey McHaggis said:
Maybe we are fucked, maybe we aren't. We have no actual idea. And fuck, even if we are, what can you do about it? Just keep going on with the assumption the world won't be ending, or you'll drive yourself to madness.
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we are super fucked if this shit happens.
 
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Even if the Ukrainians didn't have fucked logistics and supplies, I doubt they would have ever given the Redditors guns with ammo, since even the Ukies knew it would probably turn out like this (at best):

 
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Josterman said:
Fuck them then? I guess.

we are super fucked if this shit happens.
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IF, big IF. Nothing is set in stone. It's not worth being constantly dooming over it. If you want to do something productive, buy some food, water and other supplies as a precaution. Whatever you do, the worst option is panicking.
 
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tulskij_tochnyj said:
And now compare it to Russia, where real wages have been stagnating since 2018, even with all natural resources and rent extraction. And ironically the main problem of Ukraine and Georgia was a border with Russia.
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My point is that GDP isn't a good way to measure how good the quality of life in a country is.

Let's picture the scenario you described, if some oblast suddenly decides to leave the firm yet caring grasp of Moscow.

Day 1: You and your cousin who is the governor of Starozalupenskaya Oblast spend an evening drinking moonshine and watching CNN. After a few drinks of grandpa's recipe and some Anderson Cooper you come to the conclusion that the only way to move forward as a nation is to separate your oblast from Moscow and embrace the ways of the West, who has never led anyone astray before. You celebrate by drinking more.

Day 2: You wake up with a hangover, have a meager breakfast and a drink, then immediately call your unemployed graphic designer friend over, have a few more drinks, and start arguing over what your new republic's flag should look like. That process will take 2-4 days.

Day 5: After a lengthy creative process, you proudly present the flag, coat of arms, football team logo, Twitter page, email signature, t-shirt design, and such of your new stunning and brave independent republic to the world. No one cares, but you got some updoots on Twitter so you drink to celebrate.

Day 6: A smiling American gentleman shows up at your door. He says that his name is John Smith (or was it Smith John?) and offers to support the proud nation of New Zalupenland during this crucial transitory period. You offer him a drink. At the end of the day you end up with a loan, a few key members of your oblast's administration replaced with "approved" effective managers, an iron-clad contract giving the Americans exclusive access to your natural resources, and a pile of NLAWs in the middle of your living room. Just in case. He also said something about setting up a biolab in your shed, but you said your moonshine still will get in the way, so can discuss that later.

Day 7: Few more smiling American gentlemen show up at your door. They brought with them some of the dumber locals and a pile of guns. They're your new army. Your other cousin, who was a quartermaster in the Soviet army back in the day, shows up with them and proclaims himself to be general. You agree and have a drink with the general to celebrate.

Day 8: Russian cruise missiles wipe everything off the map.

The end.
 
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