Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Polish Businessman]

I'm racist but IQ is pseudoscience. This trend primarily affects high-income kids. IQ test results reflect how much parents care about a child's academic success, and that in turn correlates well with income.

Nah, that's cope, so that parents and teachers feel more useful. Actually it's 50-80% heritable, the rest being some random unknown variables, and there's literally nothing you can do to raise it. Of course it correlates with income, but the causation goes in inverse direction.

That's okay because each generation since 1975 is getting dumber by 7 IQ points, so we'll just retard ourselves out of ROGD.

This, but unironically. Once it drops enough, the industrial civilization with collapse, together with TikTok, Discord, chemical factories and hospitals. No more troons.

 

[Gar For Archer]

That's okay because each generation since 1975 is getting dumber by 7 IQ points, so we'll just retard ourselves out of ROGD.

I assume that’s AVERAGE IQ? What % of that decrease can be directly attributed to lower IQ people reproducing at much greater rates, and thus pumping out lower IQ babies?

 

[FarmVille]

Pay teachers a starting salary lower than COL then act shocked when teachers are all weirdo Troons and kids are losing IQ points

 

[Polish Businessman]

I assume that’s AVERAGE IQ? What % of that decrease can be directly attributed to lower IQ people reproducing at much greater rates, and thus pumping out lower IQ babies?

Probably less than 10%. There is an inverse IQ-fertility correlation, but it's nowhere near these numbers. Most of this decline is due to massive immigration from Africa and the Middle East.

 

[FarmVille]

Probably less than 10%. There is an inverse IQ-fertility correlation, but it's nowhere near these numbers. Most of this decline is due to massive immigration from Africa and the Middle East.

Thanks for not letting the article pass up an opportunity to be racist. Making the farms proud

 

[Andrew Neiman]

The voice won't go back, and although there's a surgery, it's not 100% effective, not to mention the risk of permanent damage to the voice chords:

There are many other examples on youtube. Helena (mentioned earlier in the thread) really got out relatively unaffected compared to them.

That really is a peculiar effect. Without audio she looks undeniably female, but once you hear her talking she starts to read as a long-haired male, maybe in their late teens/early 20s. That's how I perceive it, anyway.

That's okay because each generation since 1975 is getting dumber by 7 IQ points, so we'll just retard ourselves out of ROGD.

This is the opposite of the truth. IQ scoring (and scoring for some other intelligence tests) have to be recalibrated periodically to account for a long-term and ongoing rise in scoring. There isn't a strong consensus on the cause for this.

 

[Polish Businessman]

This is the opposite of the truth. IQ scoring (and scoring for some other intelligence tests) have to be recalibrated periodically to account for a long-term and ongoing rise in scoring. There isn't a strong consensus on the cause for this.

You have very old data. The Flynn effect in developed countries stopped long ago (you can check the literature). There is indeed no consensus on the cause. It may be better nutrition, it may be something that teaches people to do better on tests. Or it may be sampling bias (excluding those deemed mentally disabled), or even erroneous measurement of the recalibration coefficient. But whatever that was, it stopped.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

Well, a singer I adored when I was younger trooned out a few years back, and I just saw that she had a video out in which it seems she got the double mastectomy. Pretty sad to be honest, she was always a bit flat chested so there was no need for it. Although it seems to have healed relatively well. I just hope she doesn't go back for a flesh tube

 

[axeltrite]

Plalloplasty flesh snakes can apparently shed internally, even five years post-surgery.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Yes, the voice changes are permanently, but the thing is - I don't think the conception that deep voice = male is embedded in our brain, but rather culturally. Back in 1800s women could easily pass as male but wearing men clothes and cutting hair short, and the voice will be overlooked. People would think instead that she might be a man with some pubertal related disorders before suspecting that this is a woman. This is because their conception of what pass as female on street was much narrower than today.

It's actually jarring first I heard, but after seeing at a lot of FtM afterwards, she came across as a woman to me now. And with an explosion in number of FtMs, they'll be much, much easy to clock in the near future. The only reason they pass better was because there were so few of FtM in the past. We'll get too many detrans women soon for her voice to be any problems. People just accepted it as a thing just like 'smoker's voice' - and probably seen more as a part of their past vice, but nonetheless female.

I seldom see the troons talk about it, but don't inflection and cadence have a lot more to do with voice clockability than just pitch? (And word choice, and other vocal patterns.)

Anyone who's played around with a voice changer knows it isn't magical, because there's more to parsing sex from speech than just whether a voice is high or low. If you just pitch a male/female up/down it sounds like a male/female up or down.

HSTS who start with the gay accent have an advantage in sounding female; conversely, there are so many FtMs on social media who've made it to a male vocal range, but sound like a turbogay. (Posting on social media and adding sparkle filters and bouncy hand gestures don't help.)

Spoiler: the plural of anecdote is data, right?

I remember recording a message with a voice-changing phone as a tween, electronically pitching myself down to male range and trying to butch up my inflection to go with it. Listening to the recording, I just sounded like the world's largest gay man. This was educational and also hilarious, because fun was allowed back then.
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[neverendingmidi]

Plalloplasty flesh snakes can apparently shed internally, even five years post-surgery.
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Not surprised, I mean the skin they use is arm/leg skin, which is not meant to be pressed together in a tight tube, with constant dampness. Think of how weird an arm gets after being in a cast for a couple of months, and expand it to years. It's not a mucus mebrane like what's in a cheek or vagina (or actual male urethra for that matter), so having chunks fall off is not more suprising than seeing it happen for stinkditches.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Cissy cis men shed their dick skin like a snake all the time! More evidence that trans men have real dicks. If you don't believe me ur transphobic!

 

[Bush King]

That's why medical tattooing is also used for troon fleshtubes. Not every ftm with a fake dick has it but some do.

I absolutely love the ones that are half baked with previous tats from their arm skin.

I cannot imagine in a million years ruining my tattoos and then ruining what I believed to be a TRUE and HONEST penis by having illegible words on one side of it and pores on the other.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The more time I spend on this website the more I start to think that there's a direct correlation between the number of tattoos a person has and how mentally ill they are.

 

[Hepativore]

The more time I spend on this website the more I start to think that there's a direct correlation between the number of tattoos a person has and how mentally ill they are.

But...you see...you have to spend hundreds of dollars on shit nobody cares about like everybody else to establish your edgelordism.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

But...you see...you have to spend hundreds of dollars on shit nobody cares about like everybody else to establish your edgelordism.

I don't mind tattoos, I really dont, have one myself. But I think after the third or fourth one you've proven at the very least that you're someone who doesn't make good decisions.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

The more time I spend on this website the more I start to think that there's a direct correlation between the number of tattoos a person has and how mentally ill they are.

I don't mind tattoos, I really dont, have one myself. But I think after the third or fourth one you've proven at the very least that you're someone who doesn't make good decisions.

You've got a point, though. Usually girls who get a bunch of tattoos (if it's like sleeve artwork that's different) have been molested or raped. Then on top of that, no mentally sane person would drop hundreds if not thousands of dollars and dozens of hours of effort on body ink, then decide mutilating it and destroying the art into a mishmash is an okay thing to do, barring some shit like drastic amputation or graft from a burn. A skin sausage, despite what they want to believe, isn't that. This screams BPD. At least if you get it hacked off from your thigh and grafted on your stomach, the ink might stay intact and you'll just have a tattoo in a different place. This, you waste time and money, destroy your skin and body ink, and then it falls off, all because you wanted to be something you're not in order to escape yourself.

There's a word for this. Mentally ill.

 

[Bush King]

I don't mind tattoos, I really dont, have one myself. But I think after the third or fourth one you've proven at the very least that you're someone who doesn't make good decisions.

Depends, really. You've got trade workers who have sleeves and do coke daily but have huge families and giant houses. I think it differs for women who have major work done. Typically if you are getting that it's a slippery slope because you tarnish your beauty and then almost are forced to go for the alternative/tattoo parlour queen look (which can certainly be attractive in it's own right). A lot of it has to do with how you look before hand. The hamplanets who get tattoos done just look even worse, especially when you see it four years down the line all stretched and droopy. Twinks getting tattoos just doesn't look right, but tribal sleeves almost seem natural for gym heads.

 

[Hepativore]

This thread actually depress me, I keep wondering how would former troons rationalise their genital mutilation and other sad changes when it's not in vogue anymore? (Barring the usual 41%).

Some of these pretty young, imagine you get the chop at 20, regretted it 5 years later, but you'll have to live for over 50+ years more. I guess in the next few years we may get a surge of detrans YouTubers - but eventually lamenting about your loss of healthy body parts get old. You can't really wallow on it forever.

They're going to be like those old Chinese ladies limping around with broken feet, or the eunuch who found themselves left with nothing after the empire fell apart.

A lot of the medical transitioning procedures shorten a troon's lifespan considerably, as they are constantly fucking around with their hormones and reproductive and urinary anatomy. Plus, as they get older, imagine the complications that are going to arise that are exacerbated by the aging process.

This was brought up in the Tranny Sideshow thread, but since people's skin loses its elasticity as it gets older because of the weakening of collagen and other connective tissues, elderly MTF troons might have to worry about literally tearing themselves a new one when they do their dilations.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Depends, really. You've got trade workers who have sleeves and do coke daily but have huge families and giant houses. I think it differs for women who have major work done. Typically if you are getting that it's a slippery slope because you tarnish your beauty and then almost are forced to go for the alternative/tattoo parlour queen look (which can certainly be attractive in it's own right). A lot of it has to do with how you look before hand. The hamplanets who get tattoos done just look even worse, especially when you see it four years down the line all stretched and droopy. Twinks getting tattoos just doesn't look right, but tribal sleeves almost seem natural for gym heads.

Personally I see it as a bellwether for a person's impulse control or lack thereof.