Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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I've postulated it's actually more of a leftist thing, although maybe I need to adjust that to globalist. Basically, the left in the US is observed to not believe in unintended consequences, and believes complex systems must remain static except for changes the left implements. Defund the police? Well, obviously, crime can't go up and the quality of police services can't go down, right? The only change that could occur with that is less money going into the system, nothing else is allowed to change. They also believe only they can make changes (see their unhinged reactions to the Florida anti-grooming law) and that changes can only go in a more-politically-aligned with them direction. (I.e., you can't become LESS progressive.)

With that in mind, and attempting to extrapolate that to a "west instead of leftist" lens... Sanction Russia? Russia literally can't do anything but accept those sanctions and keep pumping that gas on the exact same terms the west demands. Russia is not allowed any agency for themselves, at all, and especially not if they do something the west disagrees with.

A war? Without the GloboHomo Uniparty's approval? Russia can't do that! Only the US, the official military enforcer of GloboHomo, is allowed to bomb people. Doesn't Russia know the borders were declared finalized by GloboHomo decades ago, and thus no changes will ever occur in international borders ever again?

The western reaction to Russia has been this comic. Complete failure of imagination.
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Christian Lindner, the German finance minister, just said that the Russians demanding gas payments in rubles is "blackmail".
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>R: Hi G, sure thing, that'll be two monetary units.
>G: I only have rotten fish.
>R: Yea no, I really have no use for that, I don't want that. Monetary units is what I want in exchange for the item.
>G: StOp BlaCkMaiLiNg Me.
 
Yes yes yes so much this. I think I bought all merchandise of Manbearman there was, which is hardly any. The day they start turning our recruits into mutant manbears I will ditch all my liberal inclinations, go full vantink and volunteer because fuck this bears are awesome and bear men armed with gatling guns deserve to run Europe over and wash their bear feet in La Manche. Or paws, whatever.

You hear that Putin? Stop wasting money on autistic proxy slapfights with NATO. You already got the Ukrainean biolabs, so get cracking on researching military applications for that gene splicing retrovirus. I may start thinking you are not serious about taking over the world if you don't.
 
Yes yes yes so much this. I think I bought all merchandise of Manbearman there was, which is hardly any. The day they start turning our recruits into mutant manbears I will ditch all my liberal inclinations, go full vantink and volunteer because fuck this bears are awesome and bear men armed with gatling guns deserve to run Europe over and wash their bear feet in La Manche. Or paws, whatever.

You hear that Putin? Stop wasting money on autistic proxy slapfights with NATO. You already got the Ukrainean biolabs, so get cracking on researching military applications for that gene splicing retrovirus. I may start thinking you are not serious about taking over the world if you don't.
Putin, stop wasting time rounding up video game characters and get cracking on those Russian Bear Supersoldiers!
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(Google translates it as "How did the mob from Oblivion get to Khokhlostan?")
 
What happened to that whole denazification and demilitarization thing?
They bombed the shit out of the Azov and the remnants are on film torturing POWs to death and lining POWs and Civilians up against ditches to be gunned down like the SS.

Denazifaction is done. Even if Russia doesn't hunt down and kill every remaining Azov, there's no way the Ukraine can keep them. It's just a matter of if Russia kills them or if they flee into the wilderness to avoid the upcoming war crimes trials.

*muffled Floyd noises*

On a more serious note, I was genuenly surprised at how harshly the establishment cracked down on Jan 6 perpetrators who didn't even do anything. Prison sentences, solitary confinement, having their own family members rat them out... And everybody is seeminly okay with all that. It was rather revealing: a shining beacon of democracy and civil rights can be just as brutal as a police state when it needs to, with silent approval of the majority of their civil liberties being trampled.

Our war protesters are getting what, 300$ fines?
There's a reason for that, but it's a bit too complex to copypasta over here. This column covers it REALLY well, though.

Basically, the Email Caste (mostly the left, shit like teachers and journalists and wall street execs and tech janitors) expected the Forgotten Caste (truckers, janitors, store clerks, plumbers, people who actually do things for society) to react in a seething rage, and 1/6 was supposed to be the Forgotten Caste storming the capital only to be put down in a decisive motion, cementing the Email Caste as only political force in America. They even had placed unused pipe bombs in two places, one Democrat and one Republican, to add to the narrative, as well as a government proclamation condemning the violence written up the day before the event even happened. Oh and had multiple paid agitators like Epps, hundreds of FBI agents embedded in the mess, at least one founder of an Antifa/BLM chapter with a CNN reporter onsite (the former of which was caught on tape and arrested for inciting a riot), yadda yadda.

I believe you can see this was the intent in their reaction to 1/6, which is overblown and unhinged, because they were absolutely counting on the Forgotten Caste overreacting with violence so they could be put down with force, forever -- for example, 1/6 was the excuse given to kill any opposition to the theft of the election and to block Trump from literally every avenue of speaking to the American people, and is currently being used to slowly cut off his access to banking and finance, leaving him penniless.

But instead of rushing in to water the tree of liberty, our Forgotten Caste are doing a slow seething burn and getting really, really creative (The Honkening, anyone?) as they realize that 1. The Email Caste hates them and considers themselves the only people worthy of having a political voice and 2. The Forgotten Caste has a whole shitload of untapped political power while the Email Caste literally used everything they had to steal the 2020 election.

Meanwhile the Email Caste... can't really do much about the Forgotten Caste rising up (which is taking the form of Right Wing National Populism in the US). What are they gonna do, post MORE news articles about how Biden is the most popular president ever? The Forgotten Caste don't believe them.

At the same time, no matter what the Email Caste does, they're stuck with the Forgotten Caste. No amount of angry emails from the Email Caste are going to cause Quinoa Salad and Organic Kale Smoothies to magically show up at the grocery store, you need store clerks and truckers and farmers to do that. Meanwhile, society could live just fine without a wall street exec, a journoactivist from one of our American Pravda institutions, or a Gender Studies Professor writing up another thesis on how to groom children. In other words, the Forgotten Caste has realized that there's a power discrepancy there, and the Email Caste's entire existence relies on them not realizing it. Or, to quote a political cartoon Google has memoryholed for wrongthink: "It has come to our attention that we are the only means you have to feed yourselves."

That's not true.

They want to erase all borders.
Well, yeah, squad goals and all that. But only they are allowed to make that change, damnit, Russia isn't allowed to play in THEIR sandbox! (I.e., Earth.)
 
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Russian athletes will need to repent in order to continue working.
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"Daniil Medvedev will be banned from participating in Wimbledon if he does not sign a key statement": The British Sports Minister demanded that the Russian tennis player confirm in writing that he does not support Putin.

Minister of Sport of Great Britain Huddleston: "We have asked the governing bodies that if Russians or Belarusians want to participate in the British tournament, they must confirm that they are independent and neutral. We want to receive confirmation in a written statement. If people say they are neutral athletes, we want to be sure that they are really neutral and there is no connection with Putin. If some individual sports or organizations decide to completely ban Russian or Belarusian athletes, we will also support it."

It reminds me of something.

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Russian athletes will need to repent in order to continue working.
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"Daniil Medvedev will be banned from participating in Wimbledon if he does not sign a key statement": The British Sports Minister demanded that the Russian tennis player confirm in writing that he does not support Putin.

Minister of Sport of Great Britain Huddleston: "We have asked the governing bodies that if Russians or Belarusians want to participate in the British tournament, they must confirm that they are independent and neutral. We want to receive confirmation in a written statement. If people say they are neutral athletes, we want to be sure that they are really neutral and there is no connection with Putin. If some individual sports or organizations decide to completely ban Russian or Belarusian athletes, we will also support it."

It reminds me of something.

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There is another way, Russian man:
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This is from the movie "Come and See." "Come and See" is an excellent film about the horrors of the Nazi occupation, where a Belarusian boy who witnesses the horrors of Nazi punitive action turns from a cheerful teenager into a gray-haired old man within two days.


If we talk about cinema as an art form, then this is definitely one of them. Damn, they killed a live cow for realism and got a real shock from the actors.

And yes, war does produce such metamorphoses. Here is a real Soviet soldier, Kobytev, before and after the war. One can only guess what kind of hell he went through.
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Jesus christ, he became an Attack on Titan character.
 
Russian athletes will need to repent in order to continue working.
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"Daniil Medvedev will be banned from participating in Wimbledon if he does not sign a key statement": The British Sports Minister demanded that the Russian tennis player confirm in writing that he does not support Putin.

Minister of Sport of Great Britain Huddleston: "We have asked the governing bodies that if Russians or Belarusians want to participate in the British tournament, they must confirm that they are independent and neutral. We want to receive confirmation in a written statement. If people say they are neutral athletes, we want to be sure that they are really neutral and there is no connection with Putin. If some individual sports or organizations decide to completely ban Russian or Belarusian athletes, we will also support it."

It reminds me of something.

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From now on I'm not even talking to any government employee until they affirm in writing that they do not condone, support, or provide moral support to Biden. That includes saying "morning" and "yes, officer."
 
EDIT: text about it from Kremlin, any russian speaker care to read? http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68094
A boatload of legalese on how the gas purchase procedure will take place. I'll have it run by our lawyers, but the gist is as follows:

- Germany pays euros to the Russian bank
- Russian bank sells euros on the stock market and buys roubles on behalf of the German customer
- Roubles go into Russian account
- Russia delivers gas

I honestly can't tell who is jewing who and how this will affect the petrodollar. Will likely depend on the terms of each particular contract once they are renegotiated.
 
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