Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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Aidan said:
I'm not sure if any aircraft have been delivered, it's hard to hide and it wouldn't surprise anyone for Russia to ruin it. Anything smaller than a vehicle seems to be fair game but who knows?
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The only aircraft known to be delivered to Ukraine as aid is a handful of Mi-8s that were refurbished in the US and meant for the now defunct Afghan National Army.
 
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Richardface said:
Holy fuck did some more digging and the head of the SBU, Ukraine's counter-intelligence service, was a stand up comic prior to his appointment
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This might be a case of putting someone you trust on the job. I'm not justifying it, but these guys usually have aides and the whole apparatus of the State at their backs to help them do their job well. Or it's just corruption, albeit I have trouble figuring how precisely stupid it would be to have a crook in such a critical position considering they have spent almost a decade at war!

Aidan said:
I'm not sure if any aircraft have been delivered, it's hard to hide and it wouldn't surprise anyone for Russia to ruin it. Anything smaller than a vehicle seems to be fair game but who knows?
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The U.S. put a stop to directly supplying aircraft, that could lead to allegations of them doing what the Soviets did in the Korean War, having covert pilots fight for the North Koreans with very thin disguising and plausible deniability. Not to mention these things demand a whole lot more training and would only really be an option in the case of them being neutralized by the Russians at a single go, which hasn't happened considering that they have pilots flying at NOE heights to avoid radar and such!
Narcotics said:
Possibly true, "Fire at oil depot in Belgorod occurred as a result of an air strike from two helicopters of Ukrainian troops that entered Russia at low altitude - Governor", it's being extinguished currently,
Ukies seem to be slowly gaining confidence for attacking russian soil, even if it's close to it's borders, if more attacks like this continue i expect russia to push harder and nastier into ukraine, probably move some air defense shit into it's bordering towns.
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They fired some missiles at an air base right at the beginning of the war, allegedly did little in terms of factual damage. There isn't really a way to check up on this, unlike with other Western intelligence ops in Ukraine precisely because they can't do the same over Russia right now. Still, if these attacks continue they will likely be limited to fucking over Russian supply lines even further, nobody is going to fire missiles at Moscow or anything of the sort precisely because it's both pointless for the military effort and would only serve to embolden the morale of the Russians!
 
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MG-34 said:
Mi24s have terrible range compared to western counterparts. There is no way you are flying HINDs from one end of Ukraine to another in a single sortie.
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Belograde to lviv is a roughly 560 mi flight. You're not making that even in a western helicopter.

Edit: I chose that city because it's relatively close to the polish border. They can't even make that flight one way.
 
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So it seems that our friends are from Georgia and Nolan Peterson used their pics in his article about the American veteran fighting in Ukraine.

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Spicey McHaggis said:
I have to say, I'm pretty impressed that the ukies have managed to keep any air assets operational this long. I wonder if they didn't have some already dispersed at hidden airfields or something like that before the war started.
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I don't find it too surprising. What we've seen out of Russian missile attacks has been somewhat lackluster. As I recall, there were a few satellite photos circulating of airfield strikes a couple weeks ago, and they'd done nothing to damage the runaways, and only hit a few planes on the ground and some facilities. So precise enough to fuck over buildings at long range, but not as great at hitting smaller targets like planes. While Ukrainian AA has remained active limiting Russian sorties that might do better while not making the news. All told I kind of suspect that rather than being a sign their air force had been destroyed, that their continuing begging for a no fly zone is more a function that their air force is too small to confront Russia's directly, and perhaps their AA not accurate enough to use at the same time as they use their air force.

Dispersed fields for their attack helicopters sounds pretty plausible as well.

Really I just feel that if Russia truly had neutralized Ukraine's air force like they claim, we'd be seeing a lot more evidence to back it up, and reports would have filtered out of Ukraine.

Aidan said:
I'm not sure if any aircraft have been delivered, it's hard to hide and it wouldn't surprise anyone for Russia to ruin it. Anything smaller than a vehicle seems to be fair game but who knows?
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Yesterday there was talk of sending Ukraine defense systems, artillery, and armored vehicles. So it seems they're working out the logistics of sending them vehicle sized equipment.
 
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Richardface said:
Two mi-24s reaching Belgorod is a huge fuck up on the part of Russian air defence, no two ways around it. Suspect NATO may have identified the gap the Ukranians exploited for them.
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I suspect Russia's air defense isn't that great against low-flying helis anyway. I doubt they expected such a bold move, assuming that is what happened.
I doubt the entire Russian border has SAM sites setup because they're too poor.
 
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Übertroon said:
Video of the two Mi-24s flying low away from the scene of the crime
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A lot of Ghost of Kiev tier stories now floating around about Ukrainian special forces having stolen Russian helis for the raid and destroying multiple targets and stealing Russian equipment
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Top men choked out some Russkies, took their uniforms, stole a Russian BMP and drove to Belgorod. They then planted bombs and set them to explode precisely as they escaped in stolen Mi-24s.
I heard one of them was on Snake Island and said this the beginning of his revenge.
 
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Aidan said:
I suspect Russia's air defense isn't that great against low-flying helis anyway. I doubt they expected such a bold move, assuming that is what happened.
I doubt the entire Russian border has SAM sites setup because they're too poor.
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To be fair we (the US) thought Shilkas and Tenguskas would be anti helicopter bread and butter, that was when we thought they were at least semi competent.
 
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Aidan said:
Top men choked out some Russkies, took their uniforms, stole a Russian BMP and drove to Belgorod. They then planted bombs and set them to explode precisely as they escaped in stolen Mi-24s.
I heard one of them was on Snake Island and said this the beginning of his revenge.
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Man that's giving me memories to the old operation Flashpoint games. A few of the more open ended missions you could play like that, and I did.
 
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Aidan said:
Top men choked out some Russkies, took their uniforms, stole a Russian BMP and drove to Belgorod. They then planted bombs and set them to explode precisely as they escaped in stolen Mi-24s.
I heard one of them was on Snake Island and said this the beginning of his revenge.
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That's not far off from what the rumor mill is spewing. But looking at footage coming out it was a simple hit and run. They're lucky they sent two helis though and not just one.
 
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Aidan said:
Top men choked out some Russkies, took their uniforms, stole a Russian BMP and drove to Belgorod. They then planted bombs and set them to explode precisely as they escaped in stolen Mi-24s.
I heard one of them was on Snake Island and said this the beginning of his revenge.
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It was all an elaborate plot by ukranian intelligence to uncover a a network of double agents
 
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