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How well is the war this going for Russia?

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Because the dose you need to get within a short time to experience ARS is >500 mSv. The disaster at Pripyat saw roughly 170 ARS cases and that's after the reactor core exploded. The New York post is claiming that dozens to hundreds of Russian troops have been exposed to >500 mSv in an environment that would have been 30 micro Sv/hr at most. The place was a tourist destination for the best part of 20 years now and people would go around with Geiger meters all the time. The levels of radioactivity in Pripyat aren't that much different than normal 3-5 micro Sv/hr which is less than you would receive on a plane flying 30,000 feet above sea level.

Any" real hotspots" ( anywhere where readings would be in mSv/hr) are buried beneath the sarcophagus. The Red Forest is "hot" but again only hot in the sense that in some areas you might find readings in the 40 micro to 100 micro Sv range. Simply, there is virtually nowhere at the facility and its surroundings that could cause ARS. So, I call bollocks.
Ssh, it validates two things; that Russians are dumber than a sack of rocks and they they will be punished with a painful death for not folding and going home with their tails between their legs by the actions of the brave Ukes and volunteers who stood up to the Red Army and the Red Menace, like everyone on TV says, because its is 1984 again.
 
either the Russian empire or the Soviet Union have tales of Russification of their culture and the oppression of their language.
You mixed them up quite well, especially considering that in the Russian Empire, the Ukrainian language was fought and censored, and the Soviets largely made a full-fledged language out of the Ukrainian dialect. And linguistic oppression was not widespread in Soviet Union; in fact, the opposite was true.In every region and republic, the local language was mandatory, and Russian was the second mandatory language and the language of the international language in the union.
The anti-soviet sentiment can be seen in the Ukrainians who fled the USSR who made monuments to SS units and were vocal opponents to the USSR.
So, is it related to ideology after all?
That nazism isn't the underlying reason for why the Ukrainians don't want to be ruled by Russians. It certainly wasn't necessary in 1920. We're coming back to the original point that you're whining about nazis more than a jewish college girl in america.
Wars don't happen because of ideas or ideologies. They're not physical. They usually happen for resources. The fact that you're fighting someone who wants to exterminate you because of ideology is a nice bonus.

Today's Russians do not like Nazism because of their bad experience with it, so I do not understand what is difficult about realizing that they hate people who make national heroes out of collaborators and wear SS symbols with pride.
 
Today's Russians do not like Nazism because of their bad experience with it, so I do not understand what is difficult about realizing that they hate people who make national heroes out of collaborators and wear SS symbols with pride.
Do they consciously ignore the millions of their own kin sacrificed by their communist government before and after WWII? Just starvation alone probably tops their total war dead, though I don't have the numbers.
 
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I'm not familiar with America's ability to defend taiwan, especially on a naval front. I genuinely don't see why we couldn't and I would appreciate someone smarter than me explaining why or why not.
Have you seen where Taiwan is on a map? It's close enough to 2 billion Red Chinese that they sometimes make their special forces guys swim there. Aircraft carriers and their planes and destroyer escorts are powerful weapons platforms - until they're outranged and outgunned, thousands of miles away from home, by angry Chinamen who can simply spam them with missiles and swarm them with aircraft and drones until their defenses fail and they're billions of dollars worth of artificial reef.

It always makes some people reliably angry for whatever reason, idk why, when I point out the US Navy's floating gay nightclubs aren't capable of preventing the Chinks taking back their own island. In 1997 the country was still poor and backward enough it was still possible to bully the gooks into kowtowing to Uncle Sam, but not any more. They've gone thru a much more impressive and profound industrial, economic, technological and military transformation than the Japs did between Admiral Perry's uninvited visit and the start of WW2. As illustrated by this declassified intelligence photo from 2004:
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That's why they're now confidently telling the US government to eat shit over its attempts to nag them into unfriending Russia. They know, and we know, and they know that we know that China is powerful enough now to tell the president of the United States to fuck off, and there's not a thing he can do about it.
 
I'm by no means a military expert, but I think that as a layperson it's safe to say that getting your shit pushed in almost every time you fight someone who isn't a civilian and losing losing almost the entire territory you were "in charge of" to supposedly incompetent vatniks as I more or less said in an earlier post and failed to make any gains (unlike Redditors), does not make for a stellar track record. But what do I know, I'm just an observing layperson judging things by their results.

I don't know how much others are seething over the Azov Battalion, personally I'm just impressed and utterly BTFO'd by how in a war with Redditors and Russia's latest blunder they still manage to be this war's biggest laughing stock at the time of me writing this. Then again, it is probably what you'd get if say the people from TRS decided to put on uniforms and LARP as soldiers.
They've been winning engagements in Kharkiv though and blunted assaults on Mariupol for over a month. I'm not sure what performance you're expecting from a national guard unit defending besieged cities just 40 miles from the Russian border.
You mixed them up quite well, especially considering that in the Russian Empire, the Ukrainian language was fought and censored, and the Soviets largely made a full-fledged language out of the Ukrainian dialect. And linguistic oppression was not widespread in Soviet Union; in fact, the opposite was true.In every region and republic, the local language was mandatory, and Russian was the second mandatory language and the language of the international language in the union.

So, is it related to ideology after all?

Wars don't happen because of ideas or ideologies. They're not physical. They usually happen for resources. The fact that you're fighting someone who wants to exterminate you because of ideology is a nice bonus.

Today's Russians do not like Nazism because of their bad experience with it, so I do not understand what is difficult about realizing that they hate people who make national heroes out of collaborators and wear SS symbols with pride.
You've got the language thing backwards. All soviet citizens were to be taught Russian as a standard across the USSR, while Russians were not expected to learn local languages when settled outside of Russia. This caused a situation where the Russian language saw rapid adoption, while other languages saw a decrease in use or if they were smaller provincial dialects died out completely. For groups such as the Karelians and the Mordovians their language was stamped out within just a few decades in the Soviet Union. The soviets also mass deported entire communities which would see their culture and language destroyed in the process.
And I honestly don't care about the Russian or Ukrainian delusions about nazi ideology, I'm just curious why someone who should know better is obsessing about nazis
 
Have you seen where Taiwan is on a map? It's close enough to 2 billion Red Chinese that they sometimes make their special forces guys swim there. Aircraft carriers and their planes and destroyer escorts are powerful weapons platforms - until they're outranged and outgunned, thousands of miles away from home, by angry Chinamen who can simply spam them with missiles and swarm them with aircraft and drones until their defenses fail and they're billions of dollars worth of artificial reef.

It always makes some people reliably angry for whatever reason, idk why, when I point out the US Navy's floating gay nightclubs aren't capable of preventing the Chinks taking back their own island. In 1997 the country was still poor and backward enough it was still possible to bully the gooks into kowtowing to Uncle Sam, but not any more. They've gone thru a much more impressive and profound industrial, economic, technological and military transformation than the Japs did between Admiral Perry's uninvited visit and the start of WW2. As illustrated by this declassified intelligence photo from 2004:
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That's why they're now confidently telling the US government to eat shit over its attempts to nag them into unfriending Russia. They know, and we know, and they know that we know that China is powerful enough now to tell the president of the United States to fuck off, and there's not a thing he can do about it.
I agree, but do not discount America's will to sacrifice the Japanese for their war, they've kept them as a client state for a reason. People also forget that China's neo-silk road is going to give them all the resources they could want, the only thing potentially "in the way" of that is the mudcake eating monkeys in east Wakanda. Don't think they'll have a problem with them though. Empire of Dust is a magical movie.
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Do they consciously ignore the millions of their own kin sacrificed by their communist government before and after WWII? Just starvation alone probably tops their total war dead, though I don't have the numbers.
Do modern Russians look like communists? Do you see many monuments to any other communist leader other than Lenin? They think it's the lesser evil that yielded results.
And besides, starvation caused by incompetents is not the same as being burned alive, raped and shot by invading forces. Otherwise, Indians would be out for British blood.
 
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I'm by no means a military expert, but I think that as a layperson it's safe to say that getting your shit pushed in almost every time you fight someone who isn't a civilian and losing losing almost the entire territory you were "in charge of" to supposedly incompetent vatniks as I more or less said in an earlier post and failed to make any gains (unlike Redditors), does not make for a stellar track record. But what do I know, I'm just an observing layperson judging things by their results.

I don't know how much others are seething over the Azov Battalion, personally I'm just impressed and utterly BTFO'd by how in a war with Redditors and Russia's latest blunder they still manage to be this war's biggest laughing stock at the time of me writing this. Then again, it is probably what you'd get if say the people from TRS decided to put on uniforms and LARP as soldiers.
I'm not sure where you are getting laughing stock from when they mauled the first Chechens inbound and held a city for over a month along with one regiment of the natty guard, continued to sneak enemy positions behind their own encirclement and refused to surrender after (I believe) 4 different rounds of 24/7 shelling followed by an offer to surrender.
The Russian MOD still only claims 109 confirmed Azov kills, which is surprisingly conservative for some of their claims so far.

We will never see the Russian and Chechen body count from Mariupol, we simply know it was an absolute meatgrinder for both sides. What likely occured here is that Azov ran out of antitank munitions and eventually succumbed to slow, grinding combined arms streetsweeping that Russia has used to put down revolts since the USSR.
Azov isint down and out either, as only a a segment of the more fanatical glowie atomwaffen types stayed to fight it out until the end, a sizeable chunk of the battalion lives on.


Hats off to the russian pilots who flew several KM with a knocked out tail, must have taken some real skill unless they were simply out of control on a shallow vector until they finally hit dirt.
 
I agree, but do not discount America's will to sacrifice the Japanese for their war, they've kept them as a client state for a reason. People also forget that China's neo-silk road is going to give them all the resources they could want, the only thing potentially "in the way" of that is the mudcake eating monkeys in east Wakanda. Don't think they'll have a problem with them though. Empire of Dust is a magical movie.
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Don't underestimate the hatred between China and Japan, even to this day. In the event of war with China, Japan would be a very enthusiastic ally. Hell they Chinese would probably rather kill the japs themselves.
 
Don't underestimate the hatred between China and Japan, even to this day. In the event of war with China, Japan would be a very enthusiastic ally. Hell they Chinese would probably rather kill the japs themselves.
Erm, he was referring to the US noping out on Japan in the same way they noped out of Ukraine. America would be willing to fight China to the last Japanese too.
 
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