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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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I think we're officially in the genocide territory now. Tell me it isn't so.
Tucker and the rest of the Trumpist crew have been thoroughly compromised by the Russians for years in terms of them being willing gullible dupes for them. Dems say Russia=BAD means Russia = GOOD to them.

Anyway, another article from Spegiel.
I think it's more of a contrarian thing than anything, though I absolutely expect a good bunch of them to be compromised with Russian money.
 
I think we're officially in the genocide territory now. Tell me it isn't so.
We are. We have been from day one honestly, Putin doesn't consider Ukraine a legitimate nation or people. "Little Russians" is the term they use.

Sorry for double post. But I don't think Trump has said anything pro Russia. I mean he said Putin was smart. But that's not really equal to simping for Putin.

Through some of his supporters don't seem to realize that either
Trump's been walking a fine line with Putin, and honestly has business interests and ties there that need to be investigated, same with asking the Russians for political favors multiple times. You'll never catch him saying a bad word about Putin without being really pressed on it, if anything he praises the dude like he's the second coming. It's a long pattern of behavior.
 
Berlin and the revenge tour through Germany was understandable on a human level. The Germans had happily torched, raped, murdered, and demolished their way through Russia, executing tens of thousands of civilians. It was the revenge of a nation that had nearly been exterminated and suffered horrific losses. This? This is different. This is the Russians acting like the Nazis did, but even worse.
Maybe it is partly the result as portraying Ukraine as some Nazi stronghold? An apparent red point for any Slav. No excuse though for any shooting of civilians and so on of course, from either side.
 
They only see Russia from the outside, not the inside. People from Russia who left the country are mystified when they meet American conservatives who simp for Putin as if he was their pimp-daddy. When in reality, Putin has a big government that conscripts men into an army, said army practices sodomy towards its new recruits, and the leadership in general have a great love for the old Soviet days when they were the big Communist Empire that in their eyes, made the West pee its pants.

Those conservatives are basically right-wing tankies. They identify America & Europe as left-wing and thus support Russia because Russia is opposed to the US and EU. Meanwhile tankies identify America & Europe as right-wing and support Russia because Russia is opposed to the US and EU.

Russian propagandists also found out that it was real easy to make friends with these people by talking about being the saviour of the white race and all that bs. Meanwhile the actual Russian Army sends Chechens in to kill those white Europeans.
 
We're not talking about a communist state though. Russia has been a shittiest possible form of a capitalist state for 30 years. And while yes, the elite is from the communist times the idea can be separate from the implementers.

Communism and socialism in themselves are noble ideas of eradicating inequality and making everyone separate but equal. It's just...I don't think humanity is quite there yet and definitely, Russians weren't there yet. Hell, they've skipped some evolutionary steps to an actual representative democracy/republic and they jumped from feudalism straight to manufacturing capitalism to communism. We know the result.

You can hate on implementations of the communist theory but you can admire the idea and there were plenty of people, who gave their best to the Soviet regime because they believed that it was furthering those noble ideas and in a sense, they were.

It's just that the leaders were rotten from the start. Then again, leaders are a reflection of the people, so who knows.

I don't know. Commiebashing is fun but there's a reason why impoverished peasants took up arms and went for it. It's not because they just wanted to simply take and not give back.
I hate to break it to you but it's entirely possible that Karl Marx was self-aware that Communism couldn't work and was just pro-dictatorship since that was supposed to be the final step before true and honest Communism, which simultaneously gives Communism a convenient excuse for all of its atrocities & an empty ideal for the useful idiots to chase after in furtherance of the dictatorship. It's strange to think that the ideology was its own red herring.

Karl Marx was either a malicious asshole or a massive retard.
 
I think we're officially in the genocide territory now. Tell me it isn't so.
The West ain't going to shit but change the names in the speeches they use to stay uninvolved in the Rwanda genocide.
I think it's more of a contrarian thing than anything, though I absolutely expect a good bunch of them to be compromised with Russian momoney.
They haven't been compromised since the Russian Revolution started.

@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid Marx was a massively malicious retarded asshole.
 
Maybe it is partly the result as portraying Ukraine as some Nazi stronghold? An apparent red point for any Slav. No excuse though for any shooting of civilians and so on of course, from either side.
Oh without question it is. It's intentional by the Kremlin to make the liquidation of protesters, activists, reporters, the intelligensia, etc. easier to carry out for the retards on the ground.
 
The pseudo-socialist governments of Europe give more welfare money and services to their own people more so than the Americans. It's not that hard to pay for welfare when you barely have to pay for military expenses because Uncle Sam does most of that shit for you.

It's just that, as Pope Paul VI warned, allowing for contraception (and by extension, abortion) will lead to population decline. People almost always choose contraceptives over childbirth, because the former gives you the joy of sex without the hassle of raising kids. So even when the governments were begging the people to breed, they didn't, because free sex with contraceptives feels great, while taking care of children is a hassle. Hence the great population drop in Europe, and the governments compensating for it by bringing in third-worlders.


It really goes to show how much the Ukrainians hate Russia more than they hate their own government. Sinking any Russiaboo's argument that the Russians were "liberators".


Hopefully, they don't repeat the same mistakes Russia made when mobilizing their tanks.


They only see Russia from the outside, not the inside. People from Russia who left the country are mystified when they meet American conservatives who simp for Putin as if he was their pimp-daddy. When in reality, Putin has a big government that conscripts men into an army, said army practices sodomy towards its new recruits, and the leadership in general have a great love for the old Soviet days when they were the big Communist Empire that in their eyes, made the West pee its pants.
To me, Russia is more of a dark mirror of what the meme right wants, a monke's paw of their goals. Oh you got a national divorce and the corrupt big government ruling you collapsed? Well now you live in a shell of it lorded over by glowies of the old regime. You want the government to openly celebrate your patriotic past again? Well now they've formed a near death cult around WW2 and your military might rests on the rusting leftovers from when you were strong. You want traitors to leave? Well they do, as well as anyone who can afford to which just leaves you with massive brain drain and you're still getting demographically replaced anyway. You want the government to promote traditional values? Well now they do but your birth rates are still collapsing, HIV is rampant, and masculinity is expressed at its purest by anally dominating other men. Russia isn't a viable alternative to globohomo, it might as well be a fucking advertisement for it.
 
I'm curious what motivated the Russians to straight up kill these people. These obviously weren't combatants. Is this part of their terror campaign or are they taking scorched earth to the extreme and trying to get rid of all the fighting age males? Maybe this is echoing what the Serbs did in Bosnia where they killed people out of their nigger-tier sense of national pride?

Whatever the case it's hard to believe this shit is even possible in 2022 Europe

Praying for hyperinflation in Russia. I understand innocent Russians will be hurt but after everything that's happened I just don't care anymore. If a majority of the people there REALLY want a Neo-Soviet Union then we should give them a lesson on basic economics
 



Oh, oh no....

Also article mentions first operational use of the Starstreak MANPADs we sent them, shooting down a helicopter, naturally we have footage because war in the 21st century is now a spectator sport:
Just WHY? Why would you ever put your military factories into enemy territory? This is dumber than digging trenches at Chernobyl, this is firing a shotgun & looking down the barrel to see what's wrong when it doesn't fire. This war is one giant Loony Tunes sketch where Putin is played by Daffy Duck.
 
I'm curious what motivated the Russians to straight up kill these people. These obviously weren't combatants. Is this part of their terror campaign or are they taking scorched earth to the extreme and trying to get rid of all the fighting age males? Maybe this is echoing what the Serbs did in Bosnia where they killed people out of their nigger-tier sense of national pride?

Whatever the case it's hard to believe this shit is even possible in 2022 Europe

Praying for hyperinflation in Russia. I understand innocent Russians will be hurt but after everything that's happened I just don't care anymore. If a majority of the people there REALLY want a Neo-Soviet Union then we should give them a lesson on basic economics

How do we know the Russians killed these people? Is there any evidence of this?

I'm sure Russian soldiers have killed unarmed civilians, it happens every time. Also, just like every time, in war your neighbors and even own military can be your worst enemy. Depends on the day and everybody's mood.
 
I'm curious what motivated the Russians to straight up kill these people. These obviously weren't combatants. Is this part of their terror campaign or are they taking scorched earth to the extreme and trying to get rid of all the fighting age males? Maybe this is echoing what the Serbs did in Bosnia where they killed people out of their nigger-tier sense of national pride?

Whatever the case it's hard to believe this shit is even possible in 2022 Europe

Praying for hyperinflation in Russia. I understand innocent Russians will be hurt but after everything that's happened I just don't care anymore. If a majority of the people there REALLY want a Neo-Soviet Union then we should give them a lesson on basic economics
Bingo, plus orders from the top to kill any potential resistance or witnesses to the liquidations. Impaling is too slow and kind a death for the men who issue such orders, and those who carry them out.

Just WHY? Why would you ever put your military factories into enemy territory? This is dumber than digging trenches at Chernobyl, this is firing a shotgun & looking down the barrel to see what's wrong when it doesn't fire. This war is one giant Loony Tunes sketch where Putin is played by Daffy Duck.
Much of the advanced aerospace research and one of the largest rocketry complexes were in Ukraine before the fall of the Soviet Union. On top of that, so were the big shipyards for the Black Sea.
 
Sorry for double post. But I don't think Trump has said anything pro Russia. I mean he said Putin was smart. But that's not really equal to simping for Putin.

Through some of his supporters don't seem to realize that either
Remember how Trump tried to blackmail Zelenskiy by cutting off aid if he didn't hand over info about Hunter Biden? I don't think that's purely out of the desire only to attack Biden and the Dems
 
There's a number of right-leaning talkers in the last few weeks I've gotten considerably disillusioned with for how much they seem to be going all in on the pro-Putin angle.
Somewhat in this direction, certain scuzzy trad Cath bloggers like Mundabor or Frank Walker of Canon212 have gone insanely pro Russian. Short of gopniks murdering their own family, they won't let a single non simping thought towards Pootin enter their empty heads. They were of dubious sanity anyhow, but Michael Matt of the the Remnant (a paper rooted in The Wanderer Press founded 1867) also simps for the manlet. The likelihood is that if Joe Biden didn't want to help Ukraine for some reason, they'd support Ukraine, and all the Great Reset guff would be shifted around. Catholic tradition has better and more respectable (also they translate a good piece on the Satanic nature of the Kremlin regime) publications (also Restoring the Faith) than those, but I thought these would exercise some sense, and at worst just be neutral.

May the reputation of the Western Putin simps Rest In Piss. They'll have to pay for their own dildos now.

The West ain't going to shit but change the names in the speeches they use to stay uninvolved in the Rwanda genocide.

They haven't been compromised since the Russian Revolution started.

@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid Marx was a massively malicious retarded asshole.
There were strange French actions during the Rwanda genocide including French troops securing an area (the turquoise zone) supposedly for humanitarian reasons but also it meant genocidaires who were too knowledgeable could make a clean getaway. Macron probably won't be securing a zone so Russian generals can flee safely. France was involved.
 
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How do we know the Russians killed these people? Is there any evidence of this?

I'm sure Russian soldiers have killed unarmed civilians, it happens every time. Also, just like every time, in war your neighbors and even own military can be your worst enemy. Depends on the day and everybody's mood.
Considering they were tied up, many of them local figures of authority, and plenty of them women who were raped then killed, I doubt it was the Ukrainians.
 
Remember how Trump tried to blackmail Zelenskiy by cutting off aid if he didn't hand over info about Hunter Biden? I don't think that's purely out of the desire only to attack Biden and the Dems
Oh come on your following for the old "Trump was a Russian puppet" lie. Following your posts I thought you were better than that.

edit: And to add to it turns out Biden and his family were indeed hiding shady dealings in Ukraine.
 
Much of the advanced aerospace research and one of the largest rocketry complexes were in Ukraine before the fall of the Soviet Union. On top of that, so were the big shipyards for the Black Sea.
Okay, that doesn't explain why they never built new ones on their own land, it's not like they never had the opportunity or the space for it. You don't send your shit to war without a steady supply of replacement vehicles.

There is no fucking excuse for allowing this to happen.
Oh come on your following for the old "Trump was a Russian puppet" lie. Following your posts I thought you were better than that.

edit: And to add it turn out Biden and his family were indeed hiding shady dealings in Ukraine.
He's not, he predicted that Trump would lose the 2016 election and even promised he'd eat his hat if Trump won, when Trump did win he went on a retarded speech about how intelligent he was despite being completely & utterly mistaken, to this day people still make fun of him for not eating the hat.

He will never admit to anything good coming out of the Trump presidency because he's just that arrogant and prideful.
 
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