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I said leveling entire cities, and I get the misunderstanding here, but I meant quickly and indiscriminately. Last I checked most of Koov is still standing and Mary's not a flattened, barren wasteland devoid of structures taller than 10' that aren't rubble.
That's not something that bolsters the idea of specific genocidal actions though.
Genocide:
Even with this definition adding in nationality, I don't really see animosity towards Ukrainians as a people other than that which is framed in the context of supporting "the nazis". Wanting to destroy an ideological identity is not the same as wanting to destroy a nationality or race of people, and their justification is that they're doing it for the Ukrainians not because of them as a people.
Nazis and nationalists aren't equivalent to a race or nationality. This is like calling progressives genocidal for wanting to be rid of everyone right of Mao, or conservatives genocidal for wanting to be rid of communists.
I mean if we're going to dig that far back into history to determine the current actions of an altogether separate government then you're lucky not to tear a muscle reaching.
Soviet Russia. But even aside from that, do most countries not also do this? I mean even in the U.S. you have large scale resettlement of "refugees" into majority white or majority black areas, nobody names that as a genocidal act. And expecting people to speak a common language is an altogether separate matter. I've never known someone to think they were being made the target of a genocidal campaign because they were expected to speak english. None who were reasonable anyhow.
It really doesn't and it's telling that you took one snippet of my post rather than taking it on as a whole to make this argument. Look, I get it, it's a heated topic but like I said in the full post you responded to there are a shitload of reasons to believe it's just agitprop. We'll know for certain years, or more probably decades from now, but as I see it, it doesn't match up both with what is actually currently known nor does it make sense logically at all unless you're willing to plumb the depths of history and rhetoric to justify it to what I find an unreasonable degree.
