Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Rome's rightful successor]

I'm surprised that outside of Pakistan and Sir Lanka that no one has tried to create a political crisis or stage a coup or tried to instigate a civil war in any undeveloped shithole yet.
You'd think that this would be the best time to do something like that when no one is looking at the moment.

 

[Screamer]

Some of these Ukrainian TG channels posting ARMA 3 footage have to be Russian gayops, right? I refuse to believe anyone is this retarded without it being on purpose.

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The odd part of this being, why the fuck wouldn't the Ukies just take the armbands off, or take the ration boxes, before taking their photos or letting the journalists in?

I would suspect it's because it doesn't matter. The shills and NPCs will apply no critical thinking and share.

We're not too far off footage from Avatar being shared as Russians destroying Hometree and the Ukrainians expelling them in an aerial assault with flying dragons.

A positive is that we're starting to see the media and others not completely swallowing the bullshit with Bucha. The media a few years ago shifted into it's ok the lie if it supports the cause. It seems there are still some boundaries. To me it looks like those that know better are going to just try and move beyond it, try and memory hole it.

 

[Henry V]

Guys this is the scary page number. Everyone needs to post wholesome things so this thread doesn't get bad luck!

 

[The best and greatest]

For weeks I've been trying to distill some coherent, consistent principle or premise behind support for the Ukrainian government.

You guys just hate Russia, and you regard Ukrainians as expendable to that end, right?

Why would you ever expect a singular coherent, consistent principle from a disparate group of people who each have their own reasons for the way they view the world?

The only commonality the people on this website have is that we all frequent the same website.

Edit: Oh and Ukraine probably should have recognized the independance of the Donbass. If only because the region is more trouble than it's worth.

 

[doesnotglow]

I was thinking and the events of the last month have provided a glimpse into a world in which 'hate speech' is carefully micromanaged and regulated by the state and the true definition has been boldly revealed. With the liberal definition of 'hate speech', symbols can be immediately declared 'not hateful' as to aid the political objectives of the state. The Wolfsangel and the Black Sun are well known Neo-Nazi symbols, there's no debating it. These symbols would normally get you swiftly banned off of any social media controlled by the state. However because these symbols are attached to a group who is seeking to accelerate the cause of the state they are now for the time being not hate symbols in this context. It is also likely that the black sun outside of the context of the Azov Batallion would be considered a hate symbol and would probably get you banned thus achieving full doublethink where a symbol is simultaneously hateful and not hateful at the exact same time depending on if the symbol appears in a context that advances the goals of the state even when the symbol has the same meaning in both contexts. We can easily conclude that the definition of 'hate speech' is merely speech which is considered distateful in the context of the goals of the state. There's no speculation about this at all anymore, they are showing you that this is how it is.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I don't think that's coherent or consistent. You're defending the principle of Ukraine's secession and self-determination from the Russian Empire/USSR, but Ukraine won't let the Donbass republics go.

Secession from communist empires is ok, but state borders derived from those of erstwhile administrative units of said communist empires are sacred?

The cocksuckers in charge of the Western Globohomo cabal don't even want their own nations under their domain to enforce immigration laws or reduce immigration rates despite being cheerleaders for Ukraine's supposed borders created after 1991.

Burgers are pushing to get russia out of the UN Human rights council.
U.S. pushes to suspend Russia from U.N. human rights body (reuters article)
" BUCHAREST, April 4 (Reuters) - The United States will ask the U.N. General Assembly to suspend Russia from the Human Rights Council, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said on Monday, after Ukraine accused Russian troops of killing dozens of civilians in the town of Bucha.
A two-thirds majority vote by the 193-member assembly in New York can suspend a state for persistently committing gross and systematic violations of human rights."
"Russia's participation on the Human Rights Council is a farce," U.S. Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield said on a visit to Romania."
"And it is wrong, which is why we believe it is time the UN General Assembly vote to remove them."
Ukraine said that it will use all "available UN mechanisms" to collect evidence on Russia's crimes in the country.
"No place for Russia on the UN Human Rights Council," Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said.
Thomas-Greenfield said she wants to have the vote this week."

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The UN human rights council is kind of a joke, i wonder if they would have the balls to do this but in the defense council instead.

Spoiled brats are leading the cabal these days lol. They got so used to controlled opposition within their domain and thought it would work on outside actors not part of their club.

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

I was thinking and the events of the last month have provided a glimpse into a world in which 'hate speech' is carefully micromanaged and regulated by the state and the true definition has been boldly revealed. With the liberal definition of 'hate speech', symbols can be immediately declared 'not hateful' as to aid the political objectives of the state. The Wolfsangel and the Black Sun are well known Neo-Nazi symbols, there's no debating it. These symbols would normally get you swiftly banned off of any social media controlled by the state. However because these symbols are attached to a group who is seeking to accelerate the cause of the state they are now for the time being not hate symbols in this context. It is also likely that the black sun outside of the context of the Azov Batallion would be considered a hate symbol and would probably get you banned thus achieving full doublethink where a symbol is simultaneously hateful and not hateful at the exact same time depending on if the symbol appears in a context that advances the goals of the state even when the symbol has the same meaning in both contexts. We can easily conclude that the definition of 'hate speech' is merely speech which is considered distateful in the context of the goals of the state. There's no speculation about this at all anymore, they are showing you that this is how it is.

Listen, they might be nazis, they might be executing prisoners of war, they might be killing their own civilians and using them as human shields, they might have tried to do a false flag attack on a NATO country, but that's all OK, because the Russians are uhhhhhh, trying to do something in Ukraine? And that can't be good, y'know?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Listen, they might be nazis, they might be executing prisoners of war, they might be killing their own civilians and using them as human shields, they might have tried to do a false flag attack on a NATO country, but that's all OK, because the Russians are uhhhhhh, trying to do something in Ukraine? And that can't be good, y'know?

I don't know if those Azov Nazis, have considered it weird that Western shitlibs all of a sudden love them, when the Western shitlib has a "forked tongue" and will throw them under the bus unless the leaders are all bought and paid off.

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

So, all sperging aside; it looks like WWIII isn't going to eventuate, so is it now just a grind until Russia wins a "brokered peace" and Eastern Europe kicks the can down the road for a few years? I can't see them rolling over the Uke forces, but I can't see them being beaten back either. Have we hit the meatgrinder stage of the war?

 

[Screamer]

So, all sperging aside; it looks like WWIII isn't going to eventuate, so is it now just a grind until Russia wins a "brokered peace" and Eastern Europe kicks the can down the road for a few years?

"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

Or anything else that could occur that could spiral this out of control.

The problem is that a large subset of people in the west are being groomed to support WWIII. This is really dangerous as the conditions to support escalation exist. So even if the current state of the war isn't going to lead to it. Something unforeseen could.

Especially dangerous is that a lot of the Western world is governed by unpopular leaders. Many with scandals that should be taken more seriously.

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

So, all sperging aside; it looks like WWIII isn't going to eventuate, so is it now just a grind until Russia wins a "brokered peace" and Eastern Europe kicks the can down the road for a few years? I can't see them rolling over the Uke forces, but I can't see them being beaten back either. Have we hit the meatgrinder stage of the war?

We'll see how it goes, mostly depending on whether the Russians manage to encircle the Ukrainian eastern army, or if they try some absolute retard shit again.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

We'll see how it goes, mostly depending on whether the Russians manage to encircle the Ukrainian eastern army, or if they try some absolute retard shit again.

I predict they'll both do something completely retarded. It seems like the only safe bet.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I was thinking and the events of the last month have provided a glimpse into a world in which 'hate speech' is carefully micromanaged and regulated by the state and the true definition has been boldly revealed. With the liberal definition of 'hate speech', symbols can be immediately declared 'not hateful' as to aid the political objectives of the state. The Wolfsangel and the Black Sun are well known Neo-Nazi symbols, there's no debating it. These symbols would normally get you swiftly banned off of any social media controlled by the state. However because these symbols are attached to a group who is seeking to accelerate the cause of the state they are now for the time being not hate symbols in this context. It is also likely that the black sun outside of the context of the Azov Batallion would be considered a hate symbol and would probably get you banned thus achieving full doublethink where a symbol is simultaneously hateful and not hateful at the exact same time depending on if the symbol appears in a context that advances the goals of the state even when the symbol has the same meaning in both contexts. We can easily conclude that the definition of 'hate speech' is merely speech which is considered distateful in the context of the goals of the state. There's no speculation about this at all anymore, they are showing you that this is how it is.

The Black Sun kicks ass and it sucks it's a Nazi symbol because it's very aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

I predict they'll both do something completely retarded. It seems like the only safe bet.

The most retarded thing the Russians can do right now is attack Zaporizhzia from the East when they aren't in position to actually encircle it because it's divided by the Dnieper, meanwhile the Ukrainian Donbass Army makes no attempt to pull back 30-50 kilometers to avoid Russia's attempted encirclement.

 

[XYZpdq]

The Black Sun kicks ass and it sucks it's a Nazi symbol because it's very aesthetically pleasing.

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yeah if that was some bullshit make-believe army I'd be a thousand percent down for anything with a dank logo like that

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

I joined a bunch of pro-Ukraine and pro-Russia telegram groups just to keep updated on the general happenings of the war and one of the interesting things I've noticed is that the Ukrainian propaganda is almost always of a "negative" type, by this I mean it's almost always focused on dead Russians, humiliating Russian POW's etc, whereas the Russian propaganda is often of a "positive" variety, providing aid to civilians, showing they're treating Ukrainian prisoners well etc.

For example one of the things that really got me was a video of Ukrainians ringing the parents of dead Russians to mock them, and another video of Russians allowing Ukrainian prisoners to call their parents to let them know they were safe.

Obviously the Ukrainians are defending their country so they're gonna be taking this more personally and maybe that's what's coming through, but still.

 

[Disheveled Human]

How come the Russian bots are in overdrive this week? Russia pulls out of the Kyiv offensive I guess because its a tactical call and not a blunder while their forces retreat from radiation sickness, and the Ukrainians have enough confidence to do an attack helicopter run to destroy some strategic oil reserves within Russian boarders. What a shit show of a week for the Russians can't wait to hear the cope and seethe about how all this was actually a win for team commie.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

team commie

Wut? They haven't been commies in 30 years.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Wut? They haven't been commies in 30 years.

I mean they have done an amazing job at convincing people of that fact, government operations and control seem very communist to me. China trades with us too so they must not be communists even though they are run by the CCP. Don't be fooled its obvious they are all communists underneath the suit at minimum their hate for us is still existent.

 

[cistendered]

The Black Sun kicks ass and it sucks it's a Nazi symbol because it's very aesthetically pleasing.

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There's always the lesser known kolovrat. The sonnenrad, swastika, and kolovrat are all kinda the same symbol. The 8 armed kolovrat doesn't really have a Nazi connotation though, it's mostly used as a symbol for pan-slavism. Slavs are racist so pan-slavism is kinda racist, but as an ideology it's relatively unknown and harmless.

It looks pretty cool if you stack two of them together opposed.

It's my hope that years from now, when this war is over and the dust has settled, that the slavs will all unite into a slavic union. If such a union is formed I hope they call it Greatest Serbia.