Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[AfghanBlue]

I think this was already posted, but I didn’t realize there was a video.

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The host is an annoying handmaiden. She tells him “you came out as an elegant, aspirational, woman. You’ve got the cheekbones, you’ve got it all!” Elsewhere she tells him “you’re a better woman than I am.”

Olly says he’s afraid to go to a spa in London because it “wouldn’t be safe.” Olly says Brian the stylist is the highest paid person on the set of PT. Which prob speaks more to how underpaid they all are.

I’ll edit this post with more if anything strikes me.

my god, that picture.
lmfao Brian gettin' paid. bish, for what?

why would chube not be alright to go to a spa?
spa's tend to be mixed sex spaces?
where you usually go with at least one friend?

the only reason i can imagine getting into any altercations at a spa would be if you were creeping around there on your own, with no-one to back you up, doing something specifically weird.
the fact Chube is para about it speaks to some weird subconscious guilt that he would be getting his rocks off in some way, which tbf he would.
the troon in wi-spa only raised a ruck because he was literally swinging his dick.

forget a spa olly, just go down the tanning salon first off

just watching it, at the bit where he's talking about Brian-
i guess he doesn't buy his own clothes because (as well as being a soulless vessel wth no taste of his own) he also probably has the same subconscious creep guilt about going into shops- hence he occasionaly buys completely misfitting crap online

EDIT-
fucking hell, give me strength:

r/PhilosophyTube - i did playlist for all the philosophytube characters <3 (part 2 : kelly slaugther, the valley girl)

6 votes and 30 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

reddit thread here with Joan bitching about Olly's snide use of ditzy dumb girl villain- she states her case btu then INSTANTLY, BIZARRELY fucks it up here:



BRO DO YOU NOT HAVE EARS CAN YOU NOT HEAR HIS VOICE DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN ACCENT IS?
What about Chubes accent or upbringing OR ATTENDANCE OF ST ANDREWS in the first place suggests poverty?
wtf?
@PennyAni get her straight and link her the Newcastle Royal Grammar Schools fees page PLEASE.

Fr when I started reading that comment I thought it was gonna go along the lines of “chubey from Newcastle and probably got knocked out for having a plummy voice when he had to step outside the compound walls now and then” Nope.
Handmade herself retarded.

 

[Dromedary]

I think this was already posted, but I didn’t realize there was a video.

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The host is an annoying handmaiden. She tells him “you came out as an elegant, aspirational, woman. You’ve got the cheekbones, you’ve got it all!” Elsewhere she tells him “you’re a better woman than I am.”

Olly says he’s afraid to go to a spa in London because it “wouldn’t be safe.” Olly says Brian the stylist is the highest paid person on the set of PT. Which prob speaks more to how underpaid they all are.

I’ll edit this post with more if anything strikes me.

He talks about how casting directors might say he’s “too tall” for a given role. Lol. Sure, too tall. He says he auditions for cis and trans roles. He auditioned recently for a trans “sex worker” and he says he opted to play it “very high status, very glamorous” because that’s what spoke to him about the character. What a shock. At 53:40 he puts on a male voice with his put-on female voice, it’s pretty funny.

At 58:05 the host asks what has been your single best investment? Olly says “can I say my transition?” So it’s nice that he’s open about his grifting.

Earlier they were talking about actors having no money and having to work two jobs and the host said “except for the rich ones who have like multi-generational wealth.” Olly was just like “yeah.” Like he didn’t want to delve in to that lol. Nice shade, handmaiden.

This is silly but I skimmed through that video, jumping 5 minutes or so ahead, and wherever I landed my captions showed Olly saying "I". Every time. Twenty jumps, then back, randomly clicking anywhere in the video with captions on, Olly is saying "I" in every sentence. Surprise, I know.

 

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EDIT-
fucking hell, give me strength:

r/PhilosophyTube - i did playlist for all the philosophytube characters <3 (part 2 : kelly slaugther, the valley girl)

6 votes and 30 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

reddit thread here with Joan bitching about Olly's snide use of ditzy dumb girl villain- she states her case btu then INSTANTLY, BIZARRELY fucks it up here:

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BRO DO YOU NOT HAVE EARS CAN YOU NOT HEAR HIS VOICE DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN ACCENT IS?
What about Chubes accent or upbringing OR ATTENDANCE OF ST ANDREWS in the first place suggests poverty?
wtf?
@PennyAni get her straight and link her the Newcastle Royal Grammar Schools fees page PLEASE.

Fr when I started reading that comment I thought it was gonna go along the lines of “chubey from Newcastle and probably got knocked out for having a plummy voice when he had to step outside the compound walls now and then” Nope.
Handmade herself retarded.

Joan knows so little about Britain while trying to speak like an authority in it.

Growing up in the sticks? It’s fucking Newcastle, not some obscure hamlet in the middle of nowhere the rest of the country has never heard of.

 

[PandaChai]

Lol wut?? What psych meds are prescribed off label over yonder

Antipsychotics for anxiety disorders, anticonvulsants for depression, definitely more. A quick search says about 10% of prescriptions in the UK are off-label.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Antipsychotics for anxiety disorders, anticonvulsants for depression, definitely more. A quick search says about 10% of prescriptions in the UK are off-label.

Oh yea, that’s true. They gave me an epileptic drug, gabapentin for my back- whcih was awful. Noped out of that pretty quick.
They will just see what sticks sometimes.
They’d be better off giving people sugar pills cos then at least the placebo woudlnt be definitely having weird side effects

 

[The Jackal]

Chris-Chan looks more feminine than Oliver, which isn't saying much, as they're both men, and look like men.

Have to hard disagree with you there. Say what you will about Olly, but he does at least have his shit more together than Chris Chan, and that shows in their appearances.

 

[Anteros]

Olly says he’s afraid to go to a spa in London because it “wouldn’t be safe.”

I have to agree with our be-testicled trans princess here, it would be completely unsafe for any woman in his immediate vicinity.

 

[The Jackal]

Olly says he’s afraid to go to a spa in London because it “wouldn’t be safe.”

I'm trying hard to picture the scenario Olly has in his head. Who goes to spas? Maybe 90-95% women and the rest gay men? I doubt the gay men would give a fuck, and even if they did, what are they are going to do? Beat him up in public? Some of the women might feel uncomfortable around Olly, a few might even be hardcore TERFs, but again: how could Olly (a big man) possibly be physically endangered by the average woman?

 

[Der weiße Teufel]

I'm trying hard to picture the scenario Olly has in his head. Who goes to spas? Maybe 90-95% women and the rest gay men? I doubt the gay men would give a fuck, and even if they did, what are they are going to do? Beat him up in public? Some of the women might feel uncomfortable around Olly, a few might even be hardcore TERFs, but again: how could Olly (a big man) possibly be physically endangered by the average woman?

I'm sure he thinks TERFs will recognize and kill him or something. I still don't understand why he thinks spas would be a problem though, I have never been to a London spa but he just doesn't need to hang out naked in a women-only area, especially if everyone has to be naked, so not just a changing room (if they even have something like that, I guess maybe a sauna or something? And I suppose people might still wear a towel there) and nobody will care. Wi-spa had an Asian style area where you're supposed to be completely nude (like an onsen in Japan), but I doubt that's the case for most Western spas.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

I'm trying hard to picture the scenario Olly has in his head. Who goes to spas? Maybe 90-95% women and the rest gay men? I doubt the gay men would give a fuck, and even if they did, what are they are going to do? Beat him up in public? Some of the women might feel uncomfortable around Olly, a few might even be hardcore TERFs, but again: how could Olly (a big man) possibly be physically endangered by the average woman?

I'm sure he thinks TERFs will recognize and kill him or something. I still don't understand why he thinks spas would be a problem though, I have never been to a London spa but he just doesn't need to hang out naked in a women-only area, especially if everyone has to be naked, so not just a changing room (if they even have something like that, I guess maybe a sauna or something? And I suppose people might still wear a towel there) and nobody will care. Wi-spa had an Asian style area where you're supposed to be completely nude (like an onsen in Japan), but I doubt that's the case for most Western spas.

Not acting like a degenerate creep and hiding his moobs and erect Philosophy Tube wouldn't bring him enough *~GENDER EUPHORIA~* babez. I think he's afraid of the female spa visitors' male relatives.

 

[AssignedEva]

I'm sure he thinks TERFs will recognize and kill him or something. I still don't understand why he thinks spas would be a problem though, I have never been to a London spa but he just doesn't need to hang out naked in a women-only area, especially if everyone has to be naked, so not just a changing room (if they even have something like that, I guess maybe a sauna or something? And I suppose people might still wear a towel there) and nobody will care. Wi-spa had an Asian style area where you're supposed to be completely nude (like an onsen in Japan), but I doubt that's the case for most Western spas.

He's not scared of women, he's scared of staff denying him service. To take a random spa, Bannatyne's, the owner Duncan Bannatyne came out and said he'd only let trans women gain access to female changing areas if they had a gender recognition certificate;

"Ok so a man is walking into ladies changing area. Staff stop and he says I am transgender they say sorry and let him walk straight in amongst the ladies, young girls and children. Not in my world Mel. Not gonna happen when I am there."

He then went on to say to the same follower that they were “assisting in increasing the danger to women and young girls from predators.”

In another tweet shortly after, he implied that “true trans people should have no problem showing evidence that they are in genuine transition.”

Even looking at specifically luxury spas, like The Bamford or Hedgerow, they usually just haven't commented on their trans policies. He'd probably be fine going in for some luxury shiatsu massage in a private room, but the bread and butter for a lot of luxury spas in London are wealthy Arabs (much of Knightsbridge is owned by Qataris, for example) and those hijabi women are not going to mess around with having a male in the womens areas.

 

[The Jackal]

Even looking at specifically luxury spas, like The Bamford or Hedgerow, they usually just haven't commented on their trans policies. He'd probably be fine going in for some luxury shiatsu massage in a private room, but the bread and butter for a lot of luxury spas in London are wealthy Arabs (much of Knightsbridge is owned by Qataris, for example) and those hijabi women are not going to mess around with having a male in the womens areas.

Doubt Olly could afford spa trips to Knightsbridge, but then again I guess it would play into his elegant princess fantasy.

I think what he actually means by 'unsafe' is that he'd be confronted with the reality that he's just not like other girls (i.e, dysphoric, except he doesn't believe that exists) and it would be upsetting. If only he could convince the government to make it illegal to suggest that men aren't women!

 

[DyingStarsForever]

Some light reading as we await content to sustain us - a character with the same personality construct as our precious chube:

The Unravelling of an Expert on Serial Killers

Stéphane Bourgoin became famous through his jailhouse interviews with murderers. Then an anonymous collective of true-crime fans began investigating his own story.

www.newyorker.com

(And those analogous to kiwis obsessively researching and documenting what a hack he is:

“ This was the inverse of fandom: a passionate connection driven by disappointment rather than by admiration.”

“Bourgoin’s professional résumé was as dubious as his personal history. By the collective’s reckoning, he had not interviewed seventy-seven serial killers but, rather, more likely only eight or nine. An interview with Charles Manson? Nobody in Manson’s camp had ever heard of it. In setting out his credentials, Bourgoin often claimed that the F.B.I. had invited him to complete two six-month training courses at Quantico with Douglas’s team of profilers. The 4ème Œil contacted Douglas, who, according to the group, replied, “Bourgoin is delusional and an imposter.””

“Bourgoin’s lies ran the spectrum from pointless little fictions to brazen fabulation. In some cases, he tried to make himself sound more important than he was—he really did give talks at the Centre National de Formation à la Police Judiciaire, even if he had nothing to do with creating the law-enforcement body’s profiling unit. He really did know the writer James Ellroy, but a picture of the two of them that he had tweeted wasn’t taken “on vacation”; it was from a crime-fiction and film festival.”

“Almost airily, he mentioned that he had been the victim of a “campaign of cyberbullying and hate on social media” and was being targeted by “bitter and jealous” individuals.”)

Interesting parallel. When I read that article I thought it was great that they shed light on the scummier parts of true crime fans, and the different types of attention seeking personalities it attracts. I didn't consider that it reflects positively on Kiwifarms, but it absolutely does. Public scrutiny is beneficial to everyone involved.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Joan knows so little about Britain while trying to speak like an authority in it.

Growing up in the sticks? It’s fucking Newcastle, not some obscure hamlet in the middle of nowhere the rest of the country has never heard of.

Going on about California as well:



She's not as outright wrong as she is about accents and class in the UK, but she's doing the "I visited this place for two weeks once and now I am going to lecture everyone about the culture I learned there" thing.

Rivalry? Sure, yeah, but if you mix them up they'll probably just laugh at you.

A "cultural and political rivalry not unlike the North and South of England"? Ah, yes, who can forget that grim industrial mining town known as "San Francisco"...

I think this was already posted, but I didn’t realize there was a video.

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The host is an annoying handmaiden. She tells him “you came out as an elegant, aspirational, woman. You’ve got the cheekbones, you’ve got it all!” Elsewhere she tells him “you’re a better woman than I am.”

She's doing the thing women do when they unconsciously put themselves down around people they feel sorry for or who for whatever reason they think deserves gentle, kid-glove behavior. Unfortunately when they do it to AGPs the AGPs just take it literally. It's a tragic mismatch of female socialization and autogynephile narcissism.

Olly doesn't realize that if he was actually a woman he would not get compliments like that, and that a woman "meeting" another woman for the first time in normal circumstances would never feel the need to fawn over or reassure her.

Spoiler: little PL story

Back when I was in physiotherapy there, was a woman with Down syndrome who was often there at the same time. Nice lady, relatively independent, but obviously still quite impaired mentally. I remember one time a song came on the radio that she must have really liked, and she started singing along at the top of her lungs, obviously enjoying herself. At the end of the song, everyone in the room cheered and clapped and she looked ecstatic.

Olly (and other AGPs) is constantly being put in positions like that, but he doesn't realize that it's because he is in the same category as the woman with Down syndrome. He thinks he's just an astounding singer.

 

[Tombigbee]

I'm trying hard to picture the scenario Olly has in his head.

When he brought up his issues with spas he hesitated like he does often when he’s calculating what the reaction to his words will be in real time (‘should I say this? Yeah, I guess I can say this’) and after he said it, he said it might “make headlines” lol.

Also speaking of his self inflated ego, there was quite a bit of talk about how he made one last ditch effort to be the ~perfect man~. The host once again kissed his ass - revealing that they hung out just before the pandemic and how suave he looked and that she thought his suit or whatever must have been super expensive. Olly said he still has a (blue? I can’t remember) suit that he wore in a lot of pre-troon PTs and that he might have altered into a woman’s blazer or whatever. Tee hee hee.

He said one of his biggest financial mistakes (this is a personal finance podcast) was this period where he was trying to be so suave and debonair or whatever. Sounded hyperbolic though because all he specifically mentioned was paying for a gym membership and some nice clothes.

He said he had a male flat mate at the time of his trooning, (do we know who?) so he offered the flatmate a lot of his male outfits and that the flatmate was like “hell yes!!” all wide-eyed and amazed to get Olly’s castoffs. So even when it comes to being Oliver and not “Abigail,” he’s still humble bragging and portraying himself as some larger than life aspirational person.

Although conversely he demurred when the host asked him what his biggest financial worry is. Olly said - where he’s going to live in five years. He said (which I doubt highly) that he “can’t afford” to buy a house in England “No one can.” So even though usually he’s bragging about everything, he’s super cagey and downplays the amount he rakes in from his paypigs. He talked (a little bit) about how he portions out his monthly Patreon - the staff gets paid, he rolls over some into the next production, etc. He sounded like a Beardstown lady and I don’t buy it. He specifically said he’s a “cheapass” and very frugal. Basically giving the impression that he’s not getting huge influxes of cash every month and that he’s dutifully using the money for only production and life’s necessities. Which I don’t believe, at all. He’s lying.

And also I meant to add in my earlier post that there was quite a bit of demented giggling throughout. Especially in the beginning. The host said that they’d been trying to set this up for a long time and while she said it Oliver was giggling away. What the fuck is so funny? It particularly stood out because in that podcast someone recently posted the hosts talked about “Abigail” being a character and the bimbofication and stuff. It’s just so surreal to watch someone do that. Indeed it is just like Tiny Tim.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I'm sure he thinks TERFs will recognize and kill him or something. I still don't understand why he thinks spas would be a problem though, I have never been to a London spa but he just doesn't need to hang out naked in a women-only area, especially if everyone has to be naked, so not just a changing room (if they even have something like that, I guess maybe a sauna or something? And I suppose people might still wear a towel there) and nobody will care. Wi-spa had an Asian style area where you're supposed to be completely nude (like an onsen in Japan), but I doubt that's the case for most Western spas.

Yeah no fucker is naked here.
Ironically it’ about the only place in Europe where that is not expected.we went on a school trip to Sweden (shit hole) and me and a friend had to go to a swimming pool with them and they just stripped right off in the changers, while we scuttled into a shower cubicle to change while angry swedes banged on the door wanting to use it.
Was pretty mortifying.

i don’t know if he means it’s a headline waiting to happen because it’s him and he’s vain enough to think people would care for that reason (narc delusions) or if it’s cos he’s trans (regular terf island delusions)

Joan talking about how her state is superior cos every business must allow trans acces- exactly like here, where our equality act likely predates her state law bs- she seems so unable to use her ever so questioning mind to wonder that if the half formed shat out tweets of men with a motive are always 100% the truth.


The -where I’m going to live on five years bullshit.
He could buy a house in London NOW.
He could have several years ago.
He could use one months pay pal for his deposit ffs.
In Chelsea? Maybe not. Anywhere on the east London line? Bingo!

He could buy a string of houses in a County Durham village for £1 each and make his philosophy cult real, he could then spend the rest of the money setting himself up some mad troon hopsital at the top of the street.

Actually, I could do that. They are like £1. But he could pay for a bus service so it’s not impossible to live there.
This got very off topic but what I’m saying is he needs to stop lying about such compeltetely transparent things- again, just like the spa insecurity it seems to come down to not having any actual friends. Must be easy to lie when no one pulls you up on your shit and you rely on an online hug box and block anyone who even faintly has pause.

Even if it’s a gentle eye roll to bring him down to earth when he gets into the me-me-me; he reminds himself not to do that.
The difference between feeling besieged by the opinions of twitter Terfs when it really should fade into nothing compared with the actual warmth of your regular friends who accept you and all the places you go out with them and how nice the vast majority of people are..

Ditto if he went to a spa with some friends, people look a lot less ceeepy when they are out just having a nice time concentrating on their social circle instead of hovering behind a shaking spider plant

The tragedy of tube keeps coming back to this.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

More tube being a bore on Twitter- humblebragging his higher authority on every point, making every post about himself, never being replied to.
He’s always replying to that hasan fuck.
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Thorn sure does talk a lot about breaking up with his girlfriends.

Its almost like it weighs heavily on him and he's trying to find anyway to spin it as a positive (hence the hilarious "all my girlfriends came out as gay afterwards, ergo, that proves I'm really a woman!")

 

[AfghanBlue]

Lmfao so this is what brian is billing for.

 

[TootfuckingToot]

Fuck could only make it to 6.38 before I gave up and clicked forward to some of the helpfully mentioned highlights. (THANKS)

Some small takes:
The host being keen to highlight anticapitalism sat next to a fucking Charbucks cup on a monetised YouTube channel

Agree with poster upthread that he is often lying and making those scenarios up on the spot, reeling about how they will land and when they go without critique absolutely buzzing - quite common AGP thrill I think.

Whatever vocal distortions he has to do means he is collecting a lot of saliva in his mouth, which is so fucking gross, I randomly hit on two near drowning swallow pauses.

His nose looks like shit, why didn't they pinch the bridge or flare the nostral bottom?!

 

[AssignedEva]

Lmfao so this is what brian is billing for.
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I'm intrigued by the mention of a 3D render. There is software used by stylists to this end like Lotta, but usually as part of an in house workflow. Unless he's temping out a concept with basic garments, I wonder if Brian's getting something made bespoke? I haven't seen anything to suggest Brian has an actual designer/pattern-maker background.