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How well is the war this going for Russia?

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It seems that 3 men who belonged to the group who shot captured Russian POWs are identified.

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Khizanishvili Teimuraz Emzarovich​

April 05, 2022
Khizanishvili Teimuraz Emzarovych,18.04.1986
+380979004638, +380382702843
Address: Ukraine, Khmelnitsky region, Starokostiantinovsky district, Pashkovtsy village, Grigory Skovoroda str. (Shchorsa str.), 4

Wife: Khizanishvili (Khokhlova) Valeriya Olegovna, 10.04.1995
+380938687892, +380731010136
lerakhizanishvili@gmail.com
vk.com/id151003110
vk.com/id320380352
ok.ru/profile/568878804049
twitter.com/Valeriyammm
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Address: Ukraine, Kyiv region, Gorenka village, Kievskaya str., 127

Sister: Dzhus (Khizanishvili) Svetlana Emzarovna, 12.11.1984
+380985087614
vk.com/id673564752
vk.com/id297002719
Address: Ukraine, Khmelnitsky region, Starokostiantynovsky district, Pashkovtsy village, Kamenetskaya str., 4

Father: Khizanishvili Emzar Teymurazovich, 21.07.1963
Addresses: Ukraine, Khmelnitsky region, Starokostiantinovsky district, Pashkovtsy village, Kamenetskaya str., 4;
Ukraine, Khmelnitsky region, Starokostiantinovsky district, Pashkovtsy village, Grigory Skovoroda str. (Shchorsa str.), 4;
Ukraine, Khmelnitsky region, Starokostiantinovsky district, Pashkovtsy village, Grigory Skovoroda str. (Shchorsa str.), 2

Mother: Khizanishvili Natalia Nikolaeva, 09.10.1962
+380971954053
vk.com/id232366349
ok.ru/profile/497950384311
Address: Ukraine, Khmelnitsky region, Starokostiantinovsky district, Pashkovtsy village, Grigory Skovoroda str. (Shchorsa str.), 4

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Антонюк Алексей Николаевич – Telegraph

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Antonyuk Aleksey Nikolaevich​

April 05, 2022
Antonyuk Oleksiy Mykolayovych, 23.09.1985
+380504417028, +380632710004, +380957229777
antonyk@i.ua
vk.com/id99867596
vk.com/id5584132
Address: Ukraine, Kiev, Vasyl Porik str., 12, apt.13

Wife: Antonyuk (Pavlova) Tatyana Mikhailovna,08.11.1986
+380934594559
vk.com/id132085222
ok.ru/profile/556176676776
Address: Ukraine, Poltava region, Veprik village, Novoselovskaya str., 4

Daughter: Antonyuk Eva Alekseevna
vk.com/id284381757

Mother: Antonyuk Lyudmila Terent'evna, 11.09.1946
+380444345656, +380665879778
Address: Ukraine, Kiev, Vasyl Porik str., 12, apt.13

Sister: Podgaynaya (Antonyuk) Svetlana Nikolaevna, 27.02.1973
+380982301807
antonuk.svetlanaa@gmail.com, lerka1@i.ua
Address: Ukraine, Kiev, Vasyl Porik str., 12, apt.13

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Куцирин Алексей Петрович – Telegraph

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Куцирин Алексей Петрович​

April 05, 2022
06.05.1981
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Note that in the video most of them don't wear arm bands. I could only see 1 guy with a blue arm band = special forces (AZOV, Aidar, ...)
 
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Free_Palestine said:
Western Ukraine fought for Nazi Germany in WW2 (hence Azov and co) while eastern Ukraine is more pro-Russia.
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That's a tricky part actually, because if you look closer, the most of banderites weren't there for God forbid "building sovereign Ukraine", they were just marauders and criminals. After the war NKVD launched an operation against them and actively asked people to participate. Guess what? There were around 100k banderites, but the amount of volunteers who wanted to end them were around 250k. You know why? Because banderites didn't give a shit, they massacred simple ukrainian folks as often as they massacred polacks and jews. That's why back then people had 0 sympathy for them. Too bad that like with nazis it's all twisted now.
 
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Once again I have put myself through the pain of watching NBC Nightly News. Monday night, April 4th. Someone, somewhere, told me to watch my enemy. He might have been a Chinese General before his country was lost to Communism.

NBC ran a long piece about Putin's Awful Horrible War Crimes. Showing all the bodies in the street footage. This is the end:

The only problem is, they showed a bunch of bodies in the street around an obvious mortar or heavy strike. I am a hundred posts back and catching up so maybe you xirls caught it....but they literally said they were shot.

Interviewed people saying they were shot....by whom? Oh, they don't ask.

Those civilians were killed by indirect fire. Who fired those shells? Their chyron:

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The Irony is off the fucking charts.

You will never convince me that this entire thing isn't a psyop distraction. I am looking for the actual opener they ran, usually takes a couple days. But a giant fucking crater, and they are saying people were shot in the face. Nuts.
 
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Vesperus said:
Are you including Afghans? I'm pretty sure they were people, too.
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This is in the context of Russia suffering losses on their own side, not Ukrainian. So the analogy is about America's ability to stomach American losses.
Is this a thread composed solely of people talking past each other or is changing the subject a deliberate "debate" tactic?
Vesperus said:
Also China has not forgotten what happened to their embassy in Belgrade.
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Rumor has it that they were trying to smuggle parts of that F-117 out the country. Is it true? We may never know.
 
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JosephStalin said:
The last years in Afghanistan produced relatively few US casualties. We likely could have stayed there, as you have alluded, forever. But we shouldn't have stayed one minute longer than needed to kick out the Taliban and oversee free elections. "Nation-building" was an utter waste of people and resources.
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Because the Yanks have a raging boner for democracy and would try to introduce it to the fucking Sentinelese if they got a chance. Even at the cost of trillions of dollarinos. Not even their own allies are safe. JFK is one of the best examples for this, that Mick undermined the British, the Laotians and the Dutch during the Cold War.
 
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Im just saying when it comes to defense systems why would you let people know you got it. Imagine telling a shooter you are wearing a bulletproof vest so you can tip him off to aim for your head.
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The point of a deterrent is making sure everyone knows you have it.
Having defenses that nullify a deterrent tells everyone they will only trigger their own destruction if they try to use said deterrent.
If the we had a cheap and reliable system that could spam interceptors at 6000 warheads without letting a single one go through, we'd want Russia to know - it would put them in a spot where they can no longer use the threat of nukes to resist the provocations.
borsabil said:
Where's the skill exactly in dropping thousands of tons of ordinance?
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There's actually a lot of skill involved. A mistake can easily lead to you calling an airstrike on your own position because you bungled the coordinates. This has happened with a B-1 Lancer because a ground observer got complacent and assumed the flight crew could see th IR strobes on the targeting pod. The IR strobes didn't show up on the targeting pod and the aircraft was too high to see strobes had they been wearing night vision goggles. So when the ground controller fed the pilots the wrong coordinates they had no way to verify the people they were about to bomb were friendlies. A more skilled controller would have realized that the capabilities at play were not the same as low flying aircraft and double-checked rather than leave it up to the pilots.
Having air support at the ready means your ground crews have maintained, fueled and armed aircraft at the ready, skilled pilots who can jump in the seat at a moment's notice, there's planning and communications involved, etc.
borsabil said:
It was the equivalent of the British army battling spear chucking tribesmen, and even then they still fucking lost. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, one humiliating defeat after another.
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In Vietnam the Tet Offensive mauled the North pretty bad. The VC almost stopped existing entirely and had to have their losses replenished by NVA regulars. North Vietnam was also being supplied pretty advanced shit by the Soviet Union.
Vietnam is usually compared to Afghanistan but the situations are pretty dissimilar.
 
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The Other Baldwin said:
Once again I have put myself through the pain of watching NBC Nightly News. Monday night, April 4th. Someone, somewhere, told me to watch my enemy. He might have been a Chinese General before his country was lost to Communism.

NBC ran a long piece about Putin's Awful Horrible War Crimes. Showing all the bodies in the street footage. This is the end:

The only problem is, they showed a bunch of bodies in the street around an obvious mortar or heavy strike. I am a hundred posts back and catching up so maybe you xirls caught it....but they literally said they were shot.

Interviewed people saying they were shot....by whom? Oh, they don't ask.

Those civilians were killed by indirect fire. Who fired those shells? Their chyron:

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The Irony is off the fucking charts.

You will never convince me that this entire thing isn't a psyop distraction. I am looking for the actual opener they ran, usually takes a couple days. But a giant fucking crater, and they are saying people were shot in the face. Nuts.
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Has it ever crossed your mind that they used the "Crater" as a mass burial site so there isn't dead bodies lying around all over the place for the local children to witness?
 
Gazprom stops gas extraction and injection at Germany’s largest storage facility
Gazprom has stopped gas extraction and injection at Reden, Germany’s largest underground gas storage (UGS). It is reported by EADaily.
As of April 4, active gas reserves amounted to 21 million cubic meters per day. In addition, the reserves of Germany’s largest gas storage can reach 3.9 billion cubic meters.
Work continues on the other two vaults operated by Astora. So, on the morning of April 5, in the Austrian “Haidach” and in the German “Jemgum” gas was pumped out. Reservations for these UGS facilities are also minimal.

 
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UVB-76 said:
The point of a deterrent is making sure everyone knows you have it.
Having defenses that nullify a deterrent tells everyone they will only trigger their own destruction if they try to use said deterrent.
If the we had a cheap and reliable system that could spam interceptors at 6000 warheads without letting a single one go through, we'd want Russia to know - it would put them in a spot where they can no longer use the threat of nukes to resist the provocations.
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An interesting thing about the ABM treaty is the USA put all their ABMs around a missile silo. Russia put all theirs around Moscow. This gave me a thunk.
 
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