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Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread
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Fuck the west. This is about Ukraine. All the talk about how the Maidan color revolution was just a western glow op has been proven false. Ukraine has routed three entire Russian Army Groups. And they are still routing as Ukrainian forces recapture the border regions.
You cannot fabricate something like this.
I WARNED you fuckers. A month ago. When I sperged out over firefighters responding to Russian Attacks in Kharkiv and Kiev. Russia has a peer power war on its hands now, and here is the most delicious statement.
Elements of the Ukrainian Army have recaptured border posts with the Russian Federation, due to the collapse of the Russian Army in Ukraines north.
Now Volodmir Zelensky, the "faggot" Russia has mocked for the last 4 weeks is now in a position to do the unthinkable. He can order the Ukrainian Army to keep going. Over the border. Into Russia. Hundreds of thousands of Russian civilians are no longer at Putins mercy.
They are at Zelenskys mercy.
Smity Werbenjagermanjensen
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I'm sure that Ukraine would love that, Belarus' army is a joke and not even the people like Lukashenko and assuming the Ukrainians don't shoot up the place too bad they won't give a shit, the West also won't give a shit. Thing stopping them is that it would give Putin the excuse he needs to mobilize Russia's army. Ukraine can hold off the some 175,000 Russians attacking Ukraine or redeploying back there, but if Russia goes Red Army and just uses the Russian Horde strategy they'll be overrun.
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Even if Ukraine is able to push the Russians completely out of Ukraine, successfully invading another country in significant force would probably be out of the question. I doubt they have the logistics capability to pull it off. Also there's political consequences if they pull that. You go from plucky defender to foreign conquer in many people's eyes, especially since Belarus hasn't directly attacked them.
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Most people don't have the time, the interest or the will to keep informed with certain topics. I myself took great interest in this war, I have been reading geopolitical analyses, watching combat footage and looking for data on the parties involved, takes plenty of time. I would certainly not be doing this for a topic that isn't interesting to myself. Even with good initiatives we are still stuck in the fog of war, so the best one can do for now is to trust reputable sources, albeit not blindly, and wait to see how things will play out in the end!
And one very important element to be considered is that this is a very emotionally charged topic. This drives people to blow off some steam and comment on the current events in different ways, not all of which can be very enjoyable if you're looking for a more serious discussion on the subject!
Lukashenko is, by all accounts, in a tenous situation. He needed Putin's help to stay in power after his latest re-election, he certainly isn't popular and he fears a coup. There is a reason why Belarus has done little but act like a glorified military base for Russia so far, news of mothers losing their sons in an unpopular war are deadly for any regime, let alone one that has little support on it's people. If the sanctions bring Belarus to the brink, even without war there is a chance of his regime collapsing on top of itself!
Zelensky does plenty of exaggerated moves, with many ends in mind (leverage in negotiations, showing his strenght and popular admiration, given how angry the people are with the invaders), but the one thing he won't do is striking the Russian Mainland outside of strategic and valid military targets. People often entertain the idea of him striking Moscow, and this is literally the worst thing he could possibly do: It would embolden his enemy's morale, provokes a narrative change and could even set dangerous precedents if he tries to directly strike and kill Putin. It's madness by all accounts!
So far, they have been playing their hands exceedingly well, any strikes in Russia proper will be rare, surgical and aimed at valid military targets. They likely won't happen without vast, coordinated planning together with Western Intelligence sources. This is the only way they can do this without provoking further escalation and keeping the narrative in their favour!
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nigger the russians are still brutalizing ukraine right as we speak, they're still holding a massive chunk of territory in the south and east, and you want the ukrainians to send part of the army on an expedition into belarus? fucking retard idea lmao
Ward
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Shouldn't you be over the age of 18 to post here?
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They can't. Russias population is 140 million. Ukraines is 44 million. Human waves won't work. Not against those sheer numbers. Human wave strategy would break Russia. Politically, militarily, and economically. They would kill this generation and the next in exchange for a useless steel plant in Mariople and an equally useless port in Sevastopol.
Russia is out of time. Their active duty force is insuffient to the military requirements of a great power war. Which is what this is. Ukraine now outnumbers the Russian Army in theater. And they are going to use this advantage.
The only way Russia can salvage the situation at this juncture is to employ the use of Nuclear weapons. Strategic Strikes on Kharkiv, Kiev, Lviv, and Odessa, to reduce Ukraines population and decapitate its government, followed up by a wave a tactical nuclear strikes in the field to wipe out the Ukrainian Army.
Only way out at this point. Unless Russia wants to actually talk peace with Ukraine. I suppose that could be an option too.
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Any attacks they do on Russian soil will have to be raids. But striking ANY targets in Russia is going to escalate.
But don't worry, they won't do that. They totally don't have almost every Western intelligence agency foaming at the mouth to feed them Intel, disrupt Russian surveillance, and jam Russian air defenses.
Like they totally didn't do to help those Ukie Helicopters fly through that Ruskies AA blindspot and toast that fuel depot...
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Russia is doing a good job at driving civilians into the TDF because if you are gonna be brutalized you may as well do it going out in a fight. Manpower doesn't seem to be an issue more so the equipment, hence why we keep sending gear and fat checks to the Ukrainian government to keep their war effort afloat.
Speaking of gear word on the street is the US is sending an additional $100 million in javelins
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I was going to write a long autistic post. Instead I will write two words. Two words aimed at the Russians on Ukraines northern border.
Vae Victis.
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Ah shit, you got me. I guess the Russians will just fuck off now that they are only winning on 80% of the front and have captured almost all of their primary invasion goals.WTF happened Russia bros? Why is there not red here? 41 days in and they lost substantial ground they used to have
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Spicey McHaggis
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We were talking about Belarus dude, not invading Russia.
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Is it Russian or Ukrainian cities falling every 3 days? Is it Russian or Ukrainian forces surrendering in the thousands? Is it Russian or Ukrainian forces that have the capacity for force projection and redeployment across the theatre?
The Ukes have hardly thrown a major punch in weeks, the Russians have been throwing them consistently. There will be no great counter attack. There will be no NATO intervention. Zelensky won't get a no fly zone. The Russians may decide to stop the bloodshed by keeping their goals the same as they started at, or they may ask for more, but at the end of the day - Ukraine loses cities, acres, autonomy, and the war.
You can cope and seethe as much as you want, but no matter how much you deny it, your piglets are getting their shit pushed in.
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Seven Russian supply trucks downed (Chernihiv region Ural). Shouldn't be a big deal the Russians have top tier logistics.
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My pal Mike reports today that Vladmir Putin's GRU was ordered to release dummy intell into the ether last week disguised as official Russian conversations to make it look like Putin is being kept in the dark about the horrific nature of his Ukraine invasion. We now know that Putin himself designed the phony conversations himself solely for our consumption.
However, two high-ranking Russian generals confirmed in a conversation they thought we wouldn't pick up that because Putin is growing increasingly afraid of being charged with war crimes he wants his dummy conversations to make it look like details of Russian war crimes being committed by his troops in Ukraine have been completely unknown to him because those details are being deliberarately withheld from him.
And it appears that President Joe Biden (initially) took the bait and believed the phony conversations were valid. The WH has been telling the press that Putin is so insulated from the real world he has no knowledge of what is going on in Ukraine. Putin is said by his two generals that his face spread a broad smile that Biden was taken in by a sophomoric intell stunt that any first-year spy would have seen through in a heartbeat.
Putin plans to use is phony "I never learned any details about war crimes" in his defense when he is charged. And he plans to bolster his phony defense by claiming the WH agreed with it.
It's bad enough that we have a POTUS who cowardly avoided military service during the Vietnam War, but this POTUS has zero intell agency experience too... which makes him a gullible tool for the KGB-trained Putin who has forgotten more about sneaky intell ops than Biden will ever learn.
More later as Mike reports it.
However, two high-ranking Russian generals confirmed in a conversation they thought we wouldn't pick up that because Putin is growing increasingly afraid of being charged with war crimes he wants his dummy conversations to make it look like details of Russian war crimes being committed by his troops in Ukraine have been completely unknown to him because those details are being deliberarately withheld from him.
And it appears that President Joe Biden (initially) took the bait and believed the phony conversations were valid. The WH has been telling the press that Putin is so insulated from the real world he has no knowledge of what is going on in Ukraine. Putin is said by his two generals that his face spread a broad smile that Biden was taken in by a sophomoric intell stunt that any first-year spy would have seen through in a heartbeat.
Putin plans to use is phony "I never learned any details about war crimes" in his defense when he is charged. And he plans to bolster his phony defense by claiming the WH agreed with it.
It's bad enough that we have a POTUS who cowardly avoided military service during the Vietnam War, but this POTUS has zero intell agency experience too... which makes him a gullible tool for the KGB-trained Putin who has forgotten more about sneaky intell ops than Biden will ever learn.
More later as Mike reports it.
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