General GunTuber thread

There are/were a clique of these guys for just about every branch and service you can think of: Army had the infamous Pentagon Wars, Navy *still* has battleship acolytes despite being proven second class in WWII. The Marines would have a much more vocal set, if they didn't have ancient shit being used as mainline equipment to begin with (Osprey problem aside).
The Navy almost has the opposite problem and I'm not sure why that is. A lot of their new cutting edge equipment is dogshit and plagued by lifetime reliability issues due to jumping too deep into untested waters (though I guess calling a 30 year old airframe "cutting edge" is wrong now, but it was right when they were introduced). The Osprey, the Littoral Combat Ship, even Rebreathers (these things are great when they work, but they have to be stored really well or the chemicals decompose and you can't tell they don't work).

When it comes to the Osprey in particular, I'm pretty sure those things have killed more Hawaiian Marines than the Iraq War did. They crash so often it's insane that anyone still lets them get in the air. Even with modernizations and safety improvements there's at least 1 fatal crash per year just out of Hawaiian bases.
 
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It seems most gun channels want to either pander to most deluded boomer conservative views who only back the position of the left 10 years ago or they feel that embracing the left will somehow protect their rights or win them more donations for overpriced soy consumerism when my holosun and M&P-15 does the same thing. One of the few who are pretty decent is C&Rsenal and other people who focus on a specific niche such as long range marksmanship or gunsmithing.

https://youtu.be/qCi1R3FNyLc International gun channels such as cap and ball are also fantastic if you want a perspective that goes beyond thigh high socks, shooting random shit in your yard, or the Gadsen flag.
 
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When exactly did you learn about the WWSD rifle project happening and do you know when it started exactly? The 2017 introduction video mentions it was a project that had been in the works for a while and I'm sure that with the KE Arms components and GWACs lowers that you may have had some awareness of its beginnings. Also, with the PDQ lever, did Karl and Ian learn about it from you or did you suggest they take a look at it for their project?

Good questions, save them for discovery.
 
There are/were a clique of these guys for just about every branch and service you can think of: Army had the infamous Pentagon Wars, Navy *still* has battleship acolytes despite being proven second class in WWII. The Marines would have a much more vocal set, if they didn't have ancient shit being used as mainline equipment to begin with (Osprey problem aside).
I consider the pistons FTW argument especially egregious when even crop dusters run turboprops these days.
 
Good questions, save them for discovery.
I suppose that's why the early GWACS video demonstration with Karl was deleted then. I'm not actually a part of GWACS or anything of that sort(if you can believe that,) just a guy that's interested after having incidentally learning of the case's existence from a google search. If that's the case that video is still up on some alternative youtube website (I forget the name exactly it's juts something I remember trying to find a little while ago) under an account with your name, so check your alternative social platforms (probably better for you, too if I don't give a domain too.) Again, I'm just a bystander saying this as an honest tip and wish you the best of luck.

I get the fact you cannot comment about the timeframe stuff as there's possible legal/financial consequences, but can you comment on the PDQ lever part at least? I'm curious about it since the PDQ lever seems to have come out only briefly before possible WWSD initial development began. I think most likely Ian or yourself would have known of the device first since it had only recently been released and you two are left handed and more interested in that sort of thing. That or Ian/Karl could have learned about it from an unrelated setup of your own. Ian, especially at the start of WWSD, seemed not well versed with ARs and accessories as Karl did, so all 3 of the possible origins of the PDQ lever seem likely. I totally understand if you're still uncomfortable and given the circumstances appreciate that you still replied to me.
Like legal discovery? For a lawsuit? Is there something we need to know?
There's a court case against KE Arms, Russel, Nealon (the Cav Arms founder,) and Brownells vs GWACS. Probably just a money grab by GWACS after giving up with the MkIII lower, but there are a few spicy allegations that don't fully make sense to me. So far there's only jurisdictional legal motions according to PACER docs. You can google KE Arms vs GWACS and get the background from casetext.

I cannot publicly comment on an ongoing legal situation. First post by a new account while we were on lunch break from depositions today.
To give you some background on who I am, I run a tiny Youtube channel by the same name (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2Rff0Gqzo7GYthoP91KLg.) I was doing videos on the forward assist and featuring clips of Karl and Ian (among others) and why they are wrong before this was a court case. It was posted earlier in the thread by someon else with examples of ISIS fighters using it, but tranny jannies here (and it seems many other guntubers/enthusiasts) cannot properly comprehend the nuances of the forward assist and they moved it. Part 2 of the Rittenhouse series is in the works.
 
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When it comes to the Osprey in particular, I'm pretty sure those things have killed more Hawaiian Marines than the Iraq War did. They crash so often it's insane that anyone still lets them get in the air. Even with modernizations and safety improvements there's at least 1 fatal crash per year just out of Hawaiian bases.
I somehow missed that the Osprey was a death trap.

I cannot publicly comment on an ongoing legal situation.
Well, good luck with that.

To give you some background on who I am, I run a tiny Youtube channel by the same name.
Big fan of those videos, very comprehensive.
 
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The Navy almost has the opposite problem and I'm not sure why that is. A lot of their new cutting edge equipment is dogshit and plagued by lifetime reliability issues due to jumping too deep into untested waters (though I guess calling a 30 year old airframe "cutting edge" is wrong now, but it was right when they were introduced). The Osprey, the Littoral Combat Ship, even Rebreathers (these things are great when they work, but they have to be stored really well or the chemicals decompose and you can't tell they don't work).
Yeah, I agree. For the actual procurement guys for the Surface Navy, it's been a shitshow since the Clinton Era. The Little Crappy Ships, the Ford Class, and the unholy abomination that was the Zumwalt class. I guess I am going to rant a bit, sorry.


The Littoral Combat Ships were wildly over designed for one of the tasks that they were supposed to perform, which was largely anti-piracy and smuggling duties. A task already handled quite well, and much more efficiently by the Corvettes which usually performed such tasks (such as the Cyclone-class).

Yet, it was radically incapable of handling its other main mission: being a flexible ship capable of anti-mine, anti-submarine, light amphibious operations, and limited surface warfare capabilities. The largest problem was that it could conduct only one of those missions at a time, and had to go to dock to change that mission. It also had a rather poor sensor package, incapable of beyond line of sight engagement until the Fire Scout drones came a decade later. In the end they decided to dedicate groups of these vessels to a single specific mission each. The amphibious warfare idea was dropped altogether.

So yes, the LCS was a ship that was supposed to operate in enemy coastal waters, without the ability to defend itself from more than one pre-determined threat profile at a time.

This is to say nothing of the fact that this isn't a single ship class, its two ship classes. Because why would we want parts, crew, and servicing commonalities? Maintenance issues were horrendous on both classes, repeated engine failures on the Freedom-class and systemic galvanic corrosion on the Independence class among the many notable issues.

We have built, building, or ordered 38 of these damn cursed ships. And what are they useful for? Being a glorified and many times more expensive Sentinel class, sitting out there in the gulf doing anti-smuggler work.

At least the FREMM based Constellation-class frigate looks to be a decent design that can actually defend itself and others in an actual warship capacity.

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Well, shit... this post is getting kinda long and I haven't even touched on the Zumwalt and Ford. I'll come back and hit those later.
 
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Yeah, I agree. For the actual procurement guys for the Surface Navy, it's been a shitshow since the Clinton Era. The Little Crappy Ships, the Ford Class, and the unholy abomination that was the Zumwalt class. I guess I am going to rant a bit, sorry.


The Littoral Combat Ships were wildly over designed for one of the tasks that they were supposed to perform, which was largely anti-piracy and smuggling duties. A task already handled quite well, and much more efficiently by the Corvettes which usually performed such tasks (such as the Cyclone-class).

Yet, it was radically incapable of handling its other main mission: being a flexible ship capable of anti-mine, anti-submarine, light amphibious operations, and limited surface warfare capabilities. The largest problem was that it could conduct only one of those missions at a time, and had to go to dock to change that mission. It also had a rather poor sensor package, incapable of beyond line of sight engagement until the Fire Scout drones came a decade later. In the end they decided to dedicate groups of these vessels to a single specific mission each. The amphibious warfare idea was dropped altogether.

So yes, the LCS was a ship that was supposed to operate in enemy coastal waters, without the ability to defend itself from more than one pre-determined threat profile at a time.

This is to say nothing of the fact that this isn't a single ship class, its two ship classes. Because why would we want parts, crew, and servicing commonalities? Maintenance issues were horrendous on both classes, repeated engine failures on the Freedom-class and systemic galvanic corrosion on the Independence class among the many notable issues.

We have built, building, or ordered 38 of these damn cursed ships. And what are they useful for? Being a glorified and many times more expensive Sentinel class, sitting out there in the gulf doing anti-smuggler work.

At least the FREMM based Constellation-class frigate looks to be a decent design that can actually defend itself and others in an actual warship capacity.

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Well, shit... this post is getting kinda long and I haven't even touched on the Zumwalt and Ford. I'll come back and hit those later.
This is a problem with our military, they want one thing that can do everything then shrug and ignore the issue when it can't do anything.
 
This is a problem with our military, they want one thing that can do everything then shrug and ignore the issue when it can't do anything.
That or they want something that's hyper-focused and only does one thing well, but it's a thing that they'll never have to do within the platform lifetime of whatever they asked for (all the money they spent on outfitting Pentomic Divisions in the 50s-60s for example). Or when it's finally done and all the graft has been made, it doesn't do that thing well (like the LCS).
 
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