The Great Twitter Meltdown of 2021 - Emulator creator Byuu bullied to death by HateSpeech™ forum, Twitter takes up arms (Still No Death Report)

[LocalFireDept]

You're stereotyping based on a few very visible cases of stupidity, which is fair enough but it's not seeing the forest for the trees. For all the troonery and tomfoolery we point out in the Open Source Software Community thread, there's tons of projects that just ship software and keep the nonsense under wraps enough that it doesn't come to the surface and be noticeable.

For all the failures of open source software, you are currently (probably) using a browser with at least some open-source components to connect using a network stack with at least some open-source components to a web site which is running an open-source operating system and open-source programming runtime to run a forum which is not open source (but could have been) but regardless connects to an open-source database to store and retrieve data. Is there troonery in the LibreSSL or PHP language or PostgreSQL database communities? Probably, but I haven't heard of any, and so long as they continue to ship good software, who really cares?

Well, whatever. I guess nobody will change the minds of some of the people here. But it doesn't really matter. Hate Asahi specifically or FOSS in general, but it will still continue to be made and improve the lives of the people who use it - which probably includes you, whether you know it or not.

Open Source Software isn't the problem so much as it's that the community is largely infested with mentally unstable cows and you should take a look at it. Also I know I'm using FOSS-derived software so you missed your "gotcha" there, bub. (Points for trying) I've been in and out of those circles for long enough to have know when shit stinks, though. My opinion was solidified long before Hector "Byuu being dead is good for me" Martin and his impressive M1 drivers that will be at 80% feature parity in 5 years.

Where it was previously just ego fights of which loser hobbyist neckbeard's implementation or standard was the way to go, more and more it's becoming clear the ideal of FOSS is being sabatoged by giving the most incompetent and unstable people a say at the expense of stable and trustworthy codebase. Politics and internal drama within large projects continues to erode my trust in this code. My examples may be cherry-picked and anecdotal, but I believe they are representenive of a trend and it's up to you to choose what code you believe is trustworthy. To reiterate, I don't mind the idea FOSS, but I'm going to spit on the reality of it. I don't give a green checkmark sticker if you change your opinion based on what I said (although I do think you should always practice good opsec and never say "who cares" to indentifying trustworthy code). If anything, I want people to realize it's not a bunch of genius eggheads, but it's mostly insane """pro""" hobbyists and plenty a cow to witness if I can. Awareness for something new to gawk at is always a worthwhile endeavour for kiwis.

Spoiler: Besides...

getting GNU/Kiwi panties in a twist is just a side benefit

You know what else isn't trustworthy and reliable? Whatever US government department that is in charge of wasting tax dollars by not updating the fucking overseas death information

ETA: it should be a crime against humanity to insinuate that PHP is "good software" btw

 

[AnOminous]

To reiterate, I don't mind the idea FOSS, but I'm going to spit on the reality of it. I don't give a green checkmark sticker if you change your opinion based on what I said (although I do think you should always practice good opsec and never say "who cares" to indentifying trustworthy code).

This is especially the case if the person in question is skilled at finding flaws in systems (like the CVE-2021-30747 thing which I believe was covered here at the time), knows how to look for them, knows how others are likely to look for them, and could probably write something subtly broken that only he is autistic enough to understand, that might not get caught for years if ever.

 

[LocalFireDept]

This is especially the case if the person in question is skilled at finding flaws in systems (like the CVE-2021-30747 thing which I believe was covered here at the time), knows how to look for them, knows how others are likely to look for them, and could probably write something subtly broken that only he is autistic enough to understand, that might not get caught for years if ever.

My personal worry with things regarding people like that is that they will "lie by ommission" if you will and deliberately not disclose vulnerabilities they have identified if it would harm groups and/or individuals that do not ideologically align with that individual. In theory this is worry, but I can't say I've seen it in praxis... yet. There's also a difference between programming a vulnerability accidentally because you are human and deliberately writing malicious code if one is in a position within a project where one could intentialy pull that code upstream. Unfortunately, while it remains the exception in most cases that latter has happened quite recently (with an even more hilarious blowback, which is even better!)

 

[AnOminous]

My personal worry with things regarding people like that is that they will "lie by ommission" if you will and deliberately not disclose vulnerabilities they have identified if it would harm groups and/or individuals that do not ideologically align with that individual. In theory this is worry, but I can't say I've seen it in praxis... yet.

What about the node.ipc dev? That was basically a friendly fire incident. The problem with rabid ideologues is you can't trust them not to do extreme things without regard for the consequences to innocents. They rarely are discriminate in these things. The fact there are innumerable unknown bad actors I can't protect against doesn't mean I should ignore the known bad actors.

 

[George Lucas]

This is especially the case if the person in question is skilled at finding flaws in systems (like the CVE-2021-30747 thing which I believe was covered here at the time), knows how to look for them, knows how others are likely to look for them, and could probably write something subtly broken that only he is autistic enough to understand, that might not get caught for years if ever.

Literally Heartbleed. Open source software isn’t a panacaea for code audits.

 

[AnOminous]

Literally Heartbleed. Open source software isn’t a panacaea for code audits.

Short of living in a Faraday cage in an underground bunker and never running anything you didn't write yourself, and never being connected to the Internet, you can't be really sure you're secure. Even then you really can't.

In a perfect world, you'd have both open source and formal code audits, but in reality, we don't, and frankly, even the track record of gigantic megacorporations richer than God is pretty shitty on this.

 

[SilenceIsViolence]

FOSS makes the world go round - True
FOSS is filled with agenda pushing asses and there's a long history of retardation associated with a lot of projects - True
Reverse engineering consoles and hardware is an impressive feat I would wager <10% of this site is capable of - True
Most of this thread is filled with retards (myself inclusive) - True
Byuu and Hector are faggots - True
Byuu isn't dead - True

 

[AnOminous]

FOSS is filled with agenda pushing asses and there's a long history of retardation associated with a lot of projects - True

The retardation used to have to do with preaching FOSS though, not trying to get people to cut their cocks off and complain that code has "problematic" completely standard terms in it, or that GIMP is called GIMP, or absolutely stupid shit that does not advance the agenda.

rms's toejam is morally higher than most of these people.

 

[Don Yagon]

or that GIMP is called GIMP

You reminded me of that Glimpse fork, made solely because "gimp" offends someone. I wonder how it's doing... oh, archived and has no commits for a year already.
That's what you get for removing the pepper brush.

 

[SilenceIsViolence]

The retardation used to have to do with preaching FOSS though, not trying to get people to cut their cocks off and complain that code has "problematic" completely standard terms in it, or that GIMP is called GIMP, or absolutely stupid shit that does not advance the agenda.

rms's toejam is morally higher than most of these people.

You only hear the highlighted top retarded stories, the loud minority, and are projecting that onto everything. 99% of FOSS is completely unaffected by politisperging or any antics - it's just autistic people bringing code into the world. You could list 1M examples, but that would still be <1% as there are 128M repos on GitHub alone. Judging a mass by it's weakest links is a shitty way to judge anything.

I am not saying use FOSS willy-nilly - I strongly advocate vetting anything you put on your PC/Servers and limiting access as strictly as possible in every scenario, with every tool. I am saying that blanket statements against FOSS because some trannies have negatively effected specific codebases is like saying don't browse the internet because trannies have ruined certain online spaces. Except even then you're far more likely to browse into a tranny-ridden hellhole than to use FOSS that will maliciously affect you.

Spoiler: inb4

"yes I am saying not to browse the internet"

 

[LocalFireDept]

Okay, no more saying anything bad about FOSS in this thread you might hurt someone's GNU/Feelings. Really wish near would be still alive so we could have something funnier to laugh at like Hector "dead friends help boost me in the algorithm" Martin moving the goalposts on why he lied

 

[Markass the Worst]

Okay, no more saying anything bad about FOSS in this thread you might hurt someone's GNU/Feelings. Really wish near would be still alive so we could have something funnier to laugh at like Hector "dead friends help boost me in the algorithm" Martin moving the goalposts on why he lied

To this day I am not aware of any credible defense for his entire claims about the police. The police won't talk to just anybody, Hector is not related by blood to Byuu in any way, and he kept changing his story on a whim once it was attacked. I am not aware of any possible explanation other than he's a straight up lying liar.

 

[SilenceIsViolence]

To this day I am not aware of any credible defense for his entire claims about the police. The police won't talk to just anybody, Hector is not related by blood to Byuu in any way, and he kept changing his story on a whim once it was attacked. I am not aware of any possible explanation other than he's a straight up lying liar.

It's just such an outlandish lie, I struggle thinking that someone would come up with this on their own. It's possible there's another anonymous party who claims they spoke to the police, told Hector in private and told them to keep it hush, and then Hector reported it in first person to add validity.

Or Occam's wrist razor and Hector is just stupid enough to think he can say a lie like that and get away with it - for all intents and purposes, he has with the greater internet hivemind. My bet would be on the person who shared that anonymous letter telling Hector he verified with the police and Hector reporting that as a first person account.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

Really wish near would be still alive so we could have something funnier to laugh at like Hector "dead friends help boost me in the algorithm" Martin moving the goalposts on why he lied

See now I actually disagree with you. I think Byuu actually really being dead is the funnier alternative here. If it turns out (as is likely) that Byuu is still alive, then Hector's just going to ignore it, and we'll gloat for a bit and then all shake hands and pack up the thread. But if Byuu actually did neck himself? Then Hector starts prodding the beehive again because he's a faggot that can't leave well enough alone, and we all get to have some more fun.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Hector is not related by blood to Byuu in any way

... OR IS HE?

I think Byuu actually really being dead is the funnier alternative here.

I'm still holding out for "Didn't commit suicide but vaccine side effects killed him".

 

[True and Honest Kerwin]

will they DDOS us again if the death registry updates and byuu isnt on it?

near is alive just like linux is still gay

 

[AnOminous]

I'm still holding out for "Didn't commit suicide but vaccine side effects killed him".

Or he did indeed "commit suicide" but somehow coincidentally had information that would send Hillary Clinton to prison.

 

[George Lucas]

will they DDOS us again if the death registry updates and byuu isnt on it?

near is alive just like linux is still gay

Anything made by Eurofags is gay.

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

I don’t blame you guys, what with the dearth of information on the byuuicide and all… but goddamn has this thread become puzzle piece central.

 

[LocalFireDept]

See now I actually disagree with you. I think Byuu actually really being dead is the funnier alternative here. If it turns out (as is likely) that Byuu is still alive, then Hector's just going to ignore it, and we'll gloat for a bit and then all shake hands and pack up the thread. But if Byuu actually did neck himself? Then Hector starts prodding the beehive again because he's a faggot that can't leave well enough alone, and we all get to have some more fun.

Cows being dead is boring and wanting people to be dead is cringe bro. Death and incarceration are the antithesis to this site because no more fun stuff happens. Hector isn’t funny on his own he’s just a loser nerd that is only interesting as an accessory to schrodinger’s near. I don’t think he does enough to sustain a thread as a solo act. Besides, watching him shift his entire narrative in response to the kiwi menace not killing near will be interesting. Mental gymnastics should be an Olympic event.

I don’t blame you guys, what with the dearth of information on the byuuicide and all… but goddamn has this thread become puzzle piece central.

I’d give you yours if I could, friend