Community Trendy Pregnancy / Snowflake Mommas and Their Batshit Birthing Practices - Because hospital birth is sooo last season

Fields Of Rye said:
Water birth, at least in the sense of giving birth in a shallow pool of warm water, not a fucking jacuzzi, is totally fine. Even in non sterile environments.
I don't know how to tell y'all this but birth is not sterile in the slightest. I don't mean this in the "oh there's woman juice" but like, it's not uncommon for women to shit themselves in the process. There's blood and shit and sweat and like okay, you got a little bit of that water heater gunk. The babies gonna be okay.

Pregnancies are also a pretty long affair. Most medical concerns aren't the immediate, "you just ripped open your fucking intestinal track" levels of bad, but have a pretty long time between knowing something is wrong and shit hitting the fan. This is point of the role of a midwife which when combined with prior imaging will pretty much insure you'll at least know when to go to the ER

A lot of the stuff on this list is batshit insane, some stuff is a bit weird. Hypnotism for example, sounds stupid but similar shit comes from pain management all the time. Some of this stuff, like water births, should probably be rephrased to "underwater births". Otherwise it sounds like you are taking exception with one of the most common and milquetoast alternative births out there. Humans have been giving birth for centuries, but this is the first time we've had the choice between doing it in the forest vs on the rug vs in the nice bathtub with warm water that makes clean up easier. It's why it's such a great choice for suicide.
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see the problem that I have alternative birthing methods, is,not that they exist, but that they need to be in your face about it, and a bit weird..
its like its almost fetishizing the aspect of pregnancy, a common normal thing, and making it a dirty weird thing.
It's okay to want to give birth at home, if you understand the risks and are willing to get proper care for you and your child, and an actual certified midwife not some overpriced doula who will sell you crystals and snake oil to deal with legit medical issues that can kill you. then have at it people have been birthing at home most of the time anyway before going to the hospital for a birth was a thing. how ever there are risks, and the problem is they're advocating for something and doing it poorly that will entice people to want to do it and before we know will have moms dying from shit like child bed fever. heavan fordid if the baby is in a wrong position for birth, before surgeries, you really had to get hands on in there to turn the baby.
 
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If you aren’t a Britfag, you probably aren’t aware of the recent release of the Ockenden report into maternity care in a region of England, which directly blames a culture of “natural birth at all costs” for the deaths of hundreds of babies and dozens of women.


It‘s a rough read in parts, but if you were in any way on the fence about how important competent medical care is in labour and birth, this is a hefty reality check. Women have indeed been giving birth at home with lightly trained assistants for thousands of years. They also, until very recently, have lost their babies or their lives doing so, not uncommonly.

The ready availability of safe maternity care is one of the reasons it’s good to be born in a rich white country. You and your mother are overwhelmingly likely to survive the birth. If you yourself are female, you and your babies are overwhelmingly likely to survive in your turn. If shoving a breech baby out in a hut somewhere was so great and natural, the mortality and morbidity figures for childbirth in nations wouldn’t track almost exactly to the GDP of nations.
 
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Snigger said:
Not sure if this is relevant, but I have a special hatred for women who use failed pregnancies / child illnesses as attention bait. I would post examples but frankly I was too disgusted to save any.
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Man, I get needing to vent about that kind of stuff because it's a traumatic event. Like there was a life growing inside you that you & your SO were readying bringing into the world & then one day it's just over. It's so abrupt in some cases that it's like being punched in the gut.
But some women just let that turn into their entire lives. It's more sad than it is disgusting because to me. That's just grief that's ran out of control & gone unchecked. Those women (and their spouse, who has to hear it 24/7) need therapy.

It is funny (in the saddest of ways) that you brought that up though because 2 things come to mind.
  1. Marybeth Tinning. I'm not sure if you read this case but this woman killed all 9 of her babies for attention.
  2. There was a post on /r/AmITheAsshole where a woman called out either her friend or her SIL for essentially spending 5 years just obsessing over her stillborn. She didn't take down the nursery that was made, she refused to celebrate anyone's birthdays which included her own living daughter, and I think she even kept it.... The straw that broke the camel's back was that she was going to name her new daughter (that she was pregnant with at the time) the dead daughter's name IIRC. If you find it, lemme know. I want to see if there was ever an update on that story
 
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Igor absolutely made me MATI. How could any parent watch this pos drown their kids and just sit there???

I'll never understand someone giving birth at home (or the woods). Are hospitals perfect? No, but atleast if something horrible happens you and the baby are much more likely to live.

I also hate the trend of the perfect "birthing plan". I want this music played, I want no medication, etc. Anyone who has ever gave birth knows there is no such thing as a birth plan. Birth never goes by a plan.

The fairy lady needs her own thread, her kids looked miserable watching her give birth. Also the first couple. Absolutely batshit, and sadly are breeding.
 
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I know most of this crap is new-age in origin, but I wonder how much of it is based off how unsanitary hospitals were in the far past. Back then it was actually reasonable to have a midwife and give birth at home because midwives always used boiled, sterile water as tradition, even if they didn't fully understand why.
 
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Snigger said:
Not sure if this is relevant, but I have a special hatred for women who use failed pregnancies / child illnesses as attention bait. I would post examples but frankly I was too disgusted to save any.
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Wheezy Asthmatic said:
Man, I get needing to vent about that kind of stuff because it's a traumatic event. Like there was a life growing inside you that you & your SO were readying bringing into the world & then one day it's just over. It's so abrupt in some cases that it's like being punched in the gut.
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I'm normally an evil shithead but I want to defend Snigger's other trigger, child illnesses. Unlike a failed pregnancy (which is 1 or more years of a woman's life down the drain), a sick baby is for life (whichever of the two is shorter). So a woman had some sort of a social life (whether extremely online or not), and now she doesn't, she's 24x7 the caretaker of the child. It's like she'd dead but still around to feel it. It's worse than, say, losing your legs in an accident, because losing the legs reduces the scope of what you can do with your life but doesn't completely take it away. Specialized babysitting is extremely expensive. Other children get neglected. The husband may dump her. She'll only be free with the death of the child, but she's stuck postponing it for as long as possible, and has to stave off that thought. If the woman wants to fish for attention (maybe in a bid to convince herself she's Totally Happy And Fulfilled) or supplement her income with e-begging or dropship scams, I don't mind. (As far as I'm concerned, tard babies don't have dignity, just don't torture anything with a CNS and we're cool; ill non-tard babies do.)

That said failed pregnancies are made worse by social pressure which you can't really see looking from outside. Women are very good at inducing mental illnesses in themselves and other women. There's lots of bullshit and contradictory pregnancy advice so each woman is guaranteed at least one "reason" to blame herself (or get blamed) for the baby's death. Mourning for a dead baby can turn into dick-measuring contests: "if you got over it too quickly, you didn't love the baby enough and your lack of love killed it. I love mine so it will never die, and if it does I will mourn it forever."
 
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Bunny Tracks said:
The people that push for natural births are the worst because they usually act like not having one doesn't make yours count, or whatever.

Way to use your baby as a way to shame other people for not wanting to experience the agony of having their V torn to their A, and all that shit.
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Anything other than a fully natural pregnancy is degenerate, I say that as a C-section baby
 
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I can’t believe people telling that one redditor to keep taking her fucked up kid to the chiropractor even though it already had neuro issues
That being said, I worked in a chiro office for a couple years. I never had any experience with it before that. The crazies are a dime a dozen and the doctors are just as bad
The woman I worked with brought her baby in to be “adjusted” at three days old. Literally on her way home from the hospital, after a c section
The babies would scream and scream I hated it
 
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FarmerKhourtney said:
I can’t believe people telling that one redditor to keep taking her fucked up kid to the chiropractor even though it already had neuro issues
That being said, I worked in a chiro office for a couple years. I never had any experience with it before that. The crazies are a dime a dozen and the doctors are just as bad
The woman I worked with brought her baby in to be “adjusted” at three days old. Literally on her way home from the hospital, after a c section
The babies would scream and scream I hated it
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That’s one thing that majorly bothers me in Robyn’s thread. She’s always taking Luna to get “adjusted” like they’re gonna twist her into a new, functioning toddler. I’m not super educated on chiropractics and lowkey I think it’s a scam, at least on some level, but I cannot think of a single reason why a newborn would need a chiro.
 
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Snusmumriken said:
That’s one thing that majorly bothers me in Robyn’s thread. She’s always taking Luna to get “adjusted” like they’re gonna twist her into a new, functioning toddler. I’m not super educated on chiropractics and lowkey I think it’s a scam, at least on some level, but I cannot think of a single reason why a newborn would need a chiro.
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Robyn had tongue tie surgery from a chiro (when there was no tongue tie) on Atlas a few days after birth then took him to a chiro for adjustment as part of the post treatment for the first month of his life.
 
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GenociderSyo said:
Robyn had tongue tie surgery from a chiro (when there was no tongue tie) on Atlas a few days after birth then took him to a chiro for adjustment as part of the post treatment for the first month of his life.
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I cant even imagine letting a chiro do any kind of surgery, especially not on a fucking baby. also, how the fuck can one even tell if there is a tongue tie at that age? gahhhhhh the medfag in me is reeling. wtffffff?
 
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FarmerKhourtney said:
I can’t believe people telling that one redditor to keep taking her fucked up kid to the chiropractor even though it already had neuro issues
That being said, I worked in a chiro office for a couple years. I never had any experience with it before that. The crazies are a dime a dozen and the doctors are just as bad
The woman I worked with brought her baby in to be “adjusted” at three days old. Literally on her way home from the hospital, after a c section
The babies would scream and scream I hated it
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The crunchy mom with the spastic baby isn’t redditor, these are screenshots from Facebook which has numerous free birth groups. Reddit moms are huge spergs, but they aren’t into woo woo bullshit so r/shitmomgroupssay is one of the biggest subreddits among female users.

Every mom group on Facebook is filled with the most batshit moms. One too many babies have died because expectant mothers listen to these nuts.
 
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