Debate user "Furry Troon" on gender ideology, zoosadism, and the ethics of cannibalism

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@Furry Troon wants to become a lolcow to get the attention that his mother never gave him. I figured the quickest way to accomplish that would be to get a debate user on x thread up, as historically speaking, they have often led to the discovery of new and exciting halal lolcows. He agreed, and supplied some hot takes that may be of interest. Discuss.

Gender was evolutionarily advantageous for easy role assignment in primitive societies, but is useless in the modern day except as a tool for manipulation by the ruling class
Given that industrialized meat eating necessitates the rape, incarceration, torture & slaughter of animals, meat eaters are no better than zoosadists; when there are widely available plant alternatives, meat eating is a purely hedonistic act just like zoosadist coomerism
non-human animals can't consent to being eaten but humans can
chicks with dicks represent the most maximal sexual potential, with both chest and groin externalized. FtMs are the inversion of this
 
@Furry Troon Why do would you think that consent matters in the animal kingdom?

Virtues like consent, mercy, forgiveness, etc. are distinctively human things. An animal doesn't care about consent. Really, the only things animals care about are eating, fucking, and not feeling pain. You're wasting your time projecting concepts onto that are foreign to them. The only reason you'd consider these concepts is because, unlike animals, you were made in the image of your Creator and you have a soul. It sucks that animals have to die, but we live in a fallen world and you recognize the injustice all around you.

Also, you should stop whacking off to shemale porn and cartoon dogs. If you honestly think dudes with tits have the maximum sexual potential, you have no idea what sex is anymore.
 
What about a sexual body part being externalized gives it more potential?
It is easier to appreciate the presence of something than the absence of something. This is true in a visual sense- dicks and tiddies make themselves known- as well as a literal, physical sense. How do you cup and squeeze a flat chest?
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Really, the only things animals care about are eating, fucking, and not feeling pain... It sucks that animals have to die, but we live in a fallen world and you recognize the injustice all around you.
You recognize that animals experience pain. Do you believe that humans should limit their behaviors so as to not cause each other pain? if so, why do you not extend that same courtesy to non-human animals?
"It sucks that animals have to die"- surely many will just by the nature of this world, but why do we as conscious actors with 'souls' have to contribute to more of this? We already have the technology to grow & distribute nutritionally viable alternatives to meat. Why create more death, pain and suffering other than a perverse hedonistic desire for the consumption of flesh?
you were made in the image of your Creator and you have a soul.
Also, you should stop whacking off to shemale porn and cartoon dogs.
There are photos of me watermarked with a famous shemale porn site and I've been into cartoon dogs for nearly two decades, it's a bit late for that. I've stopped hanging out with cartoon dog fuckers but getting me to stop masturbating to it would probably, ironically, necessitate a higher dose of estrogen or AGP style 'affirming' surgery.
 
- Given that industrialized meat eating necessitates the rape, incarceration, torture & slaughter of animals, meat eaters are no better than zoosadists; when there are widely available plant alternatives, meat eating is a purely hedonistic act just like zoosadist coomerism
Have you ever killed a chicken? They really don't mind that much, catching a chicken is far more sadistic than beheading one. Also, you should do the lenten fast, there's still some time this year.
 
Given that industrialized meat eating necessitates the rape [1] >, incarceration [2], torture & slaughter [3] of animals, meat eaters are no better than zoosadists; when there are widely available plant alternatives, meat eating is a purely hedonistic act just like zoosadist coomerism [4]
1) Animals DGAF about consent, they rape each other all the time
2) Animals on a free range farm are just as trapped as ones in torture-dungeon-esque chambers. They are going to be "incarcerated" (so, contained and not allowed to free roam outside a certain area) regardless, and if you agree free range is ethical (I assume/hope you do, because duh) that's more important. You're askin the wrong question, which needs to be "why are we capturing and storing animals anyway" if this were to be a real argument
3) This is a bit of a reach (for me) because easily 95% of animals ARE tortured... there are still ethical farms+slaughter methods (gun to head, euthanization, throat slitting) Can't argue w/ the torture though, we need to do better.
4) I can't afford to eat vegan shit, and vegan shit tastes like shit. The concept of it being "hedonistic" is a bit of an odd point too - I know it's whataboutism, but what about cheese? Milk? What about your alternative milks that have to come from far away factories and have shit carbon footprints? What about coffee, what about wheat, what about canola... those are hedonistic acts, then, and affect humans too!
5) Zoosadism, like human rape, is not done due to attraction: it is done due to perversion, power fantasy, and degeneracy. There is never any viable reason to rape someone, there is never any situation where the solution is raping someone (or an animal). There is 100% a reason to eat meat: to not starve, easy source of protein, possibly cultural connection...

(...and before you point out I said animals DGAF about consent but also "there is never an excuse for rape" animals can't rape each other if neither of them can or can't consent TO EACH OTHER: they're just doing it to mate. we have an obligation as more intelligent creatures to... you know, not fuck cows)
non-human animals can't consent to being eaten but humans can
Agreed. If my leg gets amputated why the fuck can't I tell the doctor I'm taking it home to eat it? It's my leg and I am giving consent for it to be eaten. This is a really annoying hypothetical that gets stuck in my head sometimes
Gender was evolutionarily advantageous for easy role assignment in primitive societies, but is useless in the modern day except as a tool for manipulation by the ruling class
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3/10 lolcow score. i would laugh at you to your face but still probably be your friend despite the differences <3
 
It is easier to appreciate the presence of something than the absence of something. This is true in a visual sense- dicks and tiddies make themselves known- as well as a literal, physical sense.
You can do just as much with a pussy as you can with a dick, if not more. Just because it's internal doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

True beauty requires a balance between presence and absence. A four-hundred pound gunt certainly makes itself known, but it isn't sexually appealing. The reasons why minimalism and maximalism are visually revolting are one and the same.
 
Hold up are you guys trying to halal him for saying animals can't consent to sex? I feel like I'm missing some context here. How is that bad?
Edit: If he's trying to say dogs can consent then fuck him but maybe the OP could be clearer about what exactly they're retarded over.
 
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It is easier to appreciate the presence of something than the absence of something. This is true in a visual sense- dicks and tiddies make themselves known- as well as a literal, physical sense. How do you cup and squeeze a flat chest?
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You recognize that animals experience pain. Do you believe that humans should limit their behaviors so as to not cause each other pain? if so, why do you not extend that same courtesy to non-human animals?
"It sucks that animals have to die"- surely many will just by the nature of this world, but why do we as conscious actors with 'souls' have to contribute to more of this? We already have the technology to grow & distribute nutritionally viable alternatives to meat. Why create more death, pain and suffering other than a perverse hedonistic desire for the consumption of flesh?


There are photos of me watermarked with a famous shemale porn site and I've been into cartoon dogs for nearly two decades, it's a bit late for that. I've stopped hanging out with cartoon dog fuckers but getting me to stop masturbating to it would probably, ironically, necessitate a higher dose of estrogen or AGP style 'affirming' surgery.
Do you help animals in a way that doesn’t involve fucking them if you love them so much?
Do you not eat meat or other animal products?
Do you advocate for animal rights other than being able to fuck them?
Surely you’re not an animal fucking hypocrite.

I can’t stand the zoo freaks because be honest, you’re a degenerate that’s a biological dead end since you can’t get your hand or an animal pregnant.
Thank god for that.
 
Hold up are you guys trying to halal him for saying animals can't consent to sex? I feel like I'm missing some context here. How is that bad?
We're just trying to halal him so he can make his dreams come true.
I don't think animal sex was touched upon yet, but since he is a furry, I think we should look into opening that avenue of discussion as well.
@Furry Troon, can animals consent to human-on-animal sex?
 
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It is easier to appreciate the presence of something than the absence of something. This is true in a visual sense- dicks and tiddies make themselves known- as well as a literal, physical sense.
Literal autism on display here. Is a bagel harder to "appreciate" than a croissant? Is a hoop easier to "appreciate" than a disc?

Kill yourself, you degenerate faggot. Dollars to donuts your dad was never home because he was too busy giving free ones in the truck stop bathroom.
why do we as conscious actors with 'souls' have to contribute to more of this?
We don't; we kill animals in a virtually painless manner. Animals have no sense of their own mortality; that is the real difference.
Why create more death, pain and suffering other than a perverse hedonistic desire for the consumption of flesh?
I've stopped hanging out with cartoon dog fuckers but getting me to stop masturbating to it would probably, ironically, necessitate a higher dose of estrogen or AGP style 'affirming' surgery.
I thought hedonistic desires were something we were supposed to easily throw away for the greater good? Guess it's not so simple when it comes to displays of infinite faggotry, eh?
 
if you agree free range is ethical (I assume/hope you do, because duh)
more ethical than usual industrialized meat from an sentientist perspective, but still bad given the murder involved, and not ethical from an environmentalist perspective where it's even more taxing on the world. I don't eat animals.
4) I can't afford to eat vegan shit, and vegan shit tastes like shit.
go look at the prices of a bag of beans in your supermarket. throw it in a pot with some veggie stock, smashed garlic, all your favorite seasonings. you'll get several meals out of it & guarantee you it'll be far cheaper than meat. the premade stuff isn't what vegans are eating, and premade meat products are also expensive.
The concept of it being "hedonistic" is a bit of an odd point out
the point is that when there are nutritionally equivalent alternatives that do not involve making animals suffer & ruining our environment, the only rationalization for consuming animals products is immoral self-indulgence.
I know it's whataboutism, but what about cheese? Milk?
industrial dairy products are made by raping cows & then immediately stealing their children so that they produce the best milk yield. cheese is both tasty and fucked up. thankfully I can make my own breast milk
What about your alternative milks that have to come from far away factories and have shit carbon footprints?
I avoid products that have a high carbon footprint too. For example vegan 'butter' is often made with disastrous palm oil. But the 'environmental impact' argument for meat is dumb as fuck, as meat intrinsically necessitates the growing of plants to feed the livestock and will always have a greater impact in the sum. Why eat the cows when we can eat the soy they're fed? my fried tofu is a banger
3/10 lolcow score. i would laugh at you to your face but still probably be your friend despite the differences <3
aww <3 could you call me names while you do it too
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You can do just as much with a pussy as you can with a dick, if not more. Just because it's internal doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

True beauty requires a balance between presence and absence.
You know what, I've amended my stance. Hermaphroditism has the most maximal sexual potential. Unfortunately true chimeric hermaphroditism isn't that common in humans or able to be induced through exogenous hormones / simulated with prosthetics.
A four-hundred pound gunt certainly makes itself known, but it isn't sexually appealing.
agree to disagree
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Do you help animals in a way that doesn’t involve fucking them if you love them so much?
Do you not eat meat or other animal products?
Do you advocate for animal rights other than being able to fuck them?
Surely you’re not an animal fucking hypocrite.
I don't eat meat or animal products. I do advocate for animal rights. You've interpreted this thread backwards; I'm not saying meat eating is ethical and therefore animal fucking is; I'm saying animal fucking is unethical and therefore meat eating is unethical. Industrialized meat eating intrinsically requires the rape of animals, which is repugnant.
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can animals consent to human-on-animal sex?
nope!
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Imo he's a boring tryhard, he doesn't deserve this thread
probably the most accurate opinion in this thread
 
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Pretty standard stuff here.
Furrytroon, can you perhaps create a poorly drawn comic rip off of a popular concept... Maybe a mix of Harry Potter and the Avengers? Or if that's too hard for you, there's always sex with a family member to consider.

The lolcow market is a competitive one. You gotta do something to stand out.
 
@Furry Troon
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You will never be a woman
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Do us a favor and rope already

You are a disappointment to your dad
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Everyone can smell you Dialation from miles away
That's you in a few years before you off yourself
 
You are a disappointment to your dad
and he, to me. why do you think I'm like this
Everyone can smell you Dialation from miles away
what part of 'chicks with dicks represent the most maximal sexual potential' makes you think I have/want an amhole? I believe in people having the autonomy to do whatever they want with their body, but having witnessed the horrors of that surgery IRL I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. zero-depth or nullification surgeries are a better bet if someone really wants their dick gone.
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Pretty standard stuff here.
only mammals have tits, you will never be a real lizard
 
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