- Joined
- Apr 1, 2022
You make a good point, but I think the key here is in the size of the intergroup differences. And the fact is, for most white people, those intergroup differences are significant enough that they identify with their ethnicity and corresponding culture much more than this idea of overarching "whiteness". My point is associating with the white race is mostly a US thing, a coping mechanism for cultureless white Americans.
You bring up an interesting point about Africans and Jews, though I think it goes towards further reinforcing my argument. Actual black Africans and actual Jews who are actually familiar with their cultures are more likely to associate with their ethnic group over their broader race/religion.
What we're talking about is mostly a phenomenon in the US, where culture has gotten so pozzed that everyone is grasping for straws, be they white or black. In places where culture is less dependent on race, these people aren't taken seriously.
Also, it's one thing to make that argument about New Yorkers vs. Bostonians, and another to make it about Dutchmen vs. Polaks. Its definitely a sliding scale of what is an important distinction and what isn't one, but ethnicity over race is pretty deep in important distinction territory imo.
