Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Scipio Americanus]

Yes but you can make this same argument about most anything which people can identify with.

"There is no black culture/people but there is such a thing as Tutsis, Hutus, Bantus etc."

Same with Jewish ethno-religions, no Jews but there are Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Haredi.

Native Americans and their individual tribes/nations that fought and enslaved each other.

You make a good point, but I think the key here is in the size of the intergroup differences. And the fact is, for most white people, those intergroup differences are significant enough that they identify with their ethnicity and corresponding culture much more than this idea of overarching "whiteness". My point is associating with the white race is mostly a US thing, a coping mechanism for cultureless white Americans.

You bring up an interesting point about Africans and Jews, though I think it goes towards further reinforcing my argument. Actual black Africans and actual Jews who are actually familiar with their cultures are more likely to associate with their ethnic group over their broader race/religion.
What we're talking about is mostly a phenomenon in the US, where culture has gotten so pozzed that everyone is grasping for straws, be they white or black. In places where culture is less dependent on race, these people aren't taken seriously.

Also, it's one thing to make that argument about New Yorkers vs. Bostonians, and another to make it about Dutchmen vs. Polaks. Its definitely a sliding scale of what is an important distinction and what isn't one, but ethnicity over race is pretty deep in important distinction territory imo.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

"It's not about consent. Obey or be rebellious. That's the choice."
Alpha Male MGTOW Chad convinces Stardust that women are property.
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@Stardust
Well do you obey or are you rebellious?

 

[Just A Butt]

if we get to June 1 and you still haven't posted a video i'm going to shit in your mailbox

 

[Stardust]

if we get to June 1 and you still haven't posted a video i'm going to shit in your mailbox

I suggest June 22nd instead, as it would be the day his people were invaded - like you'll invade his mailbox - by TRUE and HONEST whites.

 

[AnOminous]

@Stardust
Well do you obey or are you rebellious?

How about die?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I suggest June 22nd instead, as it would be the day his people were invaded - like you'll invade his mailbox - by TRUE and HONEST whites.

So rebellious? i know it.

How about die?

Why? 2 years ago when this thread was created, everyone thought I was a pedo for thinking age of consent should be at puberty.
Now more and more people are getting red-pilled on puberty.
More and more people will leave your side and join my side, at first slowly then rapidly.
It's clear you're on the wrong side of history.
Biology denial isn't the right side of history and never will be the right side of history.
You're defending an out-dated feminist concept and people are over feminism.

 

[Frozen in time]

Someone needs to tell you that being White is not a personality

 

[The Cunting Death]

It's clear you're on the wrong side of history.

I don't care what side of the political spectrum you are, if you say this, you're a complete and utter faggot.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I don't care what side of the political spectrum you are, if you say this, you're a complete and utter faggot.

Claiming you're on the right side of history is an effective rhetorical tactic.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Claiming you're on the right side of history is an effective rhetorical tactic.

says who?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

says who?

Inductive Reasoning.
People wouldn't say "right side of history" for decades if it didn't work.
People want to know they're on the right path.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

So rebellious? i know it.

Just like every other woman, she isn't gonna fuck you, dude.

Why? 2 years ago when this thread was created, everyone thought I was a pedo for thinking age of consent should be at puberty.
Now more and more people are getting red-pilled on puberty.
More and more people will leave your side and join my side, at first slowly then rapidly.
It's clear you're on the wrong side of history.
Biology denial isn't the right side of history and never will be the right side of history.
You're defending an out-dated feminist concept and people are over feminism.

Oh, fucking pipe down, you Heinz 57 cockwhistle.

 

[The Cunting Death]

People wouldn't say "right side of history" for decades if it didn't work.

People also said the world is flat for eons, that doesn't mean it was true.

History is what happened in the past from several different perspectives from different people at different times. At worst things get lost to history because either people refused to talk about what happened or it just gets obscured by other events. There is no 'right side of history' you complete and utter retard.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

People also said the world is flat for eons, that doesn't mean it was true.

History is what happened in the past from several different perspectives from different people at different times. At worst things get lost to history because either people refused to talk about what happened or it just gets obscured by other events. There is no 'right side of history' you complete and utter retard.

3D vs 4D Chess. Everything you said is correct if your brain only works at a 3D level but when you go to the 4D plane, you realize that people want a vision, a path forward, a legacy and what's why the "right side of history" is soo powerful. It removes their FUD.

People also said the world is flat for eons, that doesn't mean it was true.

History is what happened in the past from several different perspectives from different people at different times. At worst things get lost to history because either people refused to talk about what happened or it just gets obscured by other events. There is no 'right side of history' you complete and utter retard.

Effort-post: If you study history, there actually is a pattern: Stone Age -> Copper Age & Bronze Age -> Iron Age -> Industrial Revolutions (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th?). History shows a pattern of humans gaining knowledge over resources, advancing technologically and that triggers massive cultural changes. At this point in time, the big problem is regarding biology (sex and race). We don't live in a society that incorporates sex and race into our culture properly and that is causing conflict.

Natural selection was discovered 1850s but shortly afterwards feminism was normalized into society and the eugenics movement ended into the 1920s and the result is dysgenics. Each generation is dumber than the last and that's accelerated by feminism collapsing the birthrates and compounded by low IQ immigration from the 3rd world and the result will be the transformation of the West into a 3rd world shithole. Thus our goal is to prevent this catastrophe by removing concepts like feminism and normalizing eugenics and race realism. These changes are requires to advance humanity to the next chapter of history.

 

[draggs]

Effort-post: If you study history, there actually is a pattern: Stone Age -> Copper Age & Bronze Age -> Iron Age -> Industrial Revolutions (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th?). History shows a pattern of humans gaining knowledge over resources, advancing technologically and that triggers massive cultural changes. At this point in time, the big problem is regarding biology (sex and race). We don't live in a society that incorporates sex and race into our culture properly and that is causing conflict.

Natural selection was discovered 1850s but shortly afterwards feminism was normalized into society and the eugenics movement ended into the 1920s and the result is dysgenics. Each generation is dumber than the last and that's accelerated by feminism collapsing the birthrates and compounded by low IQ immigration from the 3rd world and the result will be the transformation of the West into a 3rd world shithole. Thus our goal is to prevent this catastrophe by removing concepts like feminism and normalizing eugenics and race realism. These changes are requires to advance humanity to the next chapter of history.

Average IQ has quite literally risen every decade since the IQ measurement system was devised you subhuman baboon

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Average IQ has quite literally risen every decade since the IQ measurement system was devised you subhuman baboon

No. One of the most basic IQ tests, reaction test, shows declining since 1850s. White uni tests are dropping in the US. Lastly, if the smartest college educated women have less kids than dumber high school educated women that implies that IQ will drop each generation.

I hate you liberals. You lie because you don't want to admit your policies destroy society. Fuck off.

 

[draggs]

No. One of the most basic IQ tests, reaction test, shows declining since 1850s. White uni tests are dropping in the US. Lastly, if the smartest college educated women have less kids than dumber high school educated women that implies that IQ will drop each generation.

I hate you liberals. You lie because you don't want to admit your policies destroy society. Fuck off.

Google the Flynn effect you fucking monkey.

 

[Just A Butt]

I hate you liberals

if you really hate us you should make a callout video or something so we can know how much you hate us

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Google the Flynn effect you fucking monke

Get lost with your copeplanations. There is plenty of data to support the IQ and we even have an obvious mechanism: higher IQ women have less kids.

 

[draggs]

Get lost with your copeplanations. There is plenty of data to support the IQ and we even have an obvious mechanism: higher IQ women have less kids.

The Flynn effect is a term for the empirical data that IQ test scores of children have been consistently rising for decades you coconut nigger