Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Bork Laser]

The year is 2040. Russia is still caught up in an Iraq like quagmire in Ukraine.

"All part of the plan guys"

 

[White_N]

Evacuation in Mariupol

Civilians leave the city under cannonade

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Yeah getting the Ukrainians to think their capital was about to be stormed wouldn't distract them from the Donbas at all. Remember a few weeks ago when you faggots were saying there was going to be an imminent invasion of Odessa and the Russians were going to get fucked up? The invasion that never happened, that couldn't have been a ploy to distract the Ukrainians either.
Also you act like it's impossible that the territorial defense units could be deployed in battle when in 2014 the Ukrainians reorganized all of their territorial defense units into motorized infantry. Do you really not think if there had been no threat to Kiev, they wouldn't have deployed them elsewhere?

The lights are out in Kviyv so let's see how well they hold up without internet access.

WAR KOT is now immortal, here is proof:

Kot shares mural with Yuri Gagarin.
Это было прекрасно

 

[Fcret]

I look forward to the natural conclusion of the cope in this thread: "It doesn't matter that Ukraine killed the second to last soldier that Russia had to throw at it, Russia can still win this with the one guy they have left."

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I look forward to the natural conclusion of the cope in this thread: "It doesn't matter that Ukraine killed the second to last soldier that Russia had to throw at it, Russia can still win this with the one guy they have left."

 

[mr.moon1488]

I look forward to the natural conclusion of the cope in this thread: "It doesn't matter that Ukraine killed the second to last soldier that Russia had to throw at it, Russia can still win this with the one guy they have left."

I look forward to Ukraine saying Russia only has one soldier left and how that soldier has raped 1 billion women.

 

[Fcret]

I look forward to Ukraine saying Russia only has one soldier left and how that soldier has raped 1 billion women.

Below average for a Russian male

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

I don't care when clowns organize a protest in the form of lying in the middle of the city like bags of potatoes, but when these vandals start to spoil the monuments, my inner aesthete starts swearing in all the languages I know.
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HEY WHY IS A SOVIET WAR MEMORIAL IN GERMANY DEFACED WITH MOSTLY-ENGLISH GRAFFITI?

THAT'S WEIRD. YOU THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET A SPECIFIC AUDIENCE? YOU THINK MAYBE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MANUFACTURED EVENT TO MANIPULATE ENGLISH-SPEAKING/AMERICAN AUDIENCES? NO THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT. MOST WESTERN COVERAGE IS DEFINITELY NOT FAKE AND MANIPULATED. FORGET WHAT I SAID. THIS ISN'T WEIRD AT ALL.

 

[El Gato Grande]

Here are my takes as a 20-something who reads about battles on Wikipedia, has thousands of hours in paradox games and has no military experience whatsoever.

-Kiev attack was a feint/raid due to small Russian troop numbers(20-30k troops for the most defended city in Ukraine?), fast withdraw, and little to no attempts to storm the city itself besides attack Ukrainian assets there. Instead of a giant battle happening with skyscrapers being demolished left and right and armored columns trying to force their way downtown they got close, sat there, skirmished and then left. There’s the possibility Russia tried a swift knockout punch with the feint as plan B but that seems unlikely because of how audacious it is.

-Russians have lost a significant amount of tanks/ground vehicles (which is to be expected because Ukraine has a variety of potent AT weapons like ATGMs and guided artillery, and tanks tend to take take significant losses when facing a peer opponent), but not as much as the Ukrainians claim. There’s a ton of pictures shared by the likes of oryx of supposed destroyed Russian tanks, but the majority of them can’t be proven to be Russian, captured, or even from this conflict. Once you also factor in possible recoveries, biases in reporting, or even digital editing (welcome to modern war) the concept of getting accurate casualty numbers from picture compliations becomes more and more dubious.

-Russia is after Donbas+Kherson and wants to bully Ukraine into submission instead of invading the entire country. This is evidenced by lower Russian troop numbers (230k vs close to a million Ukrainians) and their unwillingness to commit to taking Kyiv. They’re trying to set up civil administration in Kherson as opposed to the north, indicating where they want to stay.

-Ukraine’s army is probably in poor shape by now. It’s hard to be certain due to the issues I’ve already described and the Ukrainians prohibiting the recording of their own losses, but they seem far less capable as the conflict goes on while Russia is free to escalate as much as it wants. From the start Russia has been able to carry out strike after strike on Ukrainian military infrastructure, starting with ammo dumps and military admin at the start of the war then moving onto fuel sites and other secondary targets. Ukrainian AA put up a fight, but Russia has had overall air superiority, allowing them to usually bomb whatever they want. It goes without saying that Russia has massive ground firepower due to their excess of artillery, tanks, MLRS, etc. This overwhelming firepower imbalance combined with the lack of meaningful Ukrainian ground offensive operations (Russian troops at Kiev were allowed to leave largely uncontested and the counteroffensives to liberate Kherson/Kyiv never materialized) paints the picture that Ukraine’s mechanized brigades are becoming infantry ones, and what were supplied, professional infantrymen at the start of the war are being replaced by reservists/territorial defense with limited training and limited ammo who have to ration gas for what vehicles they have left. Russia can more easily replace its losses from its Cold War stockpiles. Pro Russian people are claiming recent Ukrainian accounts describe their fuel situation as desperate and display a limited use of military vehicles (using civilian ones instead) but I can’t say I agree or disagree because I don’t want to be on telegram all day.

-Russians did pretty well in Mariupol. Urban warfare with competent and powerful defenders is grinding, painful and slow. Battles like fallujah, Budapest, Stalingrad, etc usually take well over a month. The Ukrainians had 15,000 troops there, so with their defeat Ukraine already has a similar number of casualties as Russia does using their optimistic estamites.

-Ukraine’s Air Force is probably dead, due to lack of recent activity and the larger size of russian AA networks/Air Force. TB2s destroyed some tanks/vehicles, but got wiped out by Russian AA defense as the war went on. Ukraine’s supporters and propaganda were extremely excited about them at the start of the war, celebrating videos of their strikes, and there’s been no new content for almost a month (IIRC) while Ukraine is as eager to report its successes as ever.

-Moskva and the helicopter raids into Russia are embarrassing for Russia, but they’re mostly pyrrhic victories which aren’t outside the norm for attrition in a major war.

Russia is going to come out of this with a far more capable military due to the experience obtained.

-Overall it’s going mostly as expected (besides the meme shit)

 

[Fcret]

HEY WHY IS A SOVIET WAR MEMORIAL IN GERMANY DEFACED WITH MOSTLY-ENGLISH GRAFFITI?

THAT'S WEIRD. YOU THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET A SPECIFIC AUDIENCE? YOU THINK MAYBE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MANUFACTURED EVENT TO MANIPULATE ENGLISH-SPEAKING/AMERICAN AUDIENCES? NO THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT. MOST WESTERN COVERAGE IS DEFINITELY NOT FAKE AND MANIPULATED. FORGET WHAT I SAID. THIS ISN'T WEIRD AT ALL.

It's 2022. More people speak English in Europe than all other languages combined. Why would they write it in German?

The far simpler explanation is that German leftists are as cringe and edgy as they've always been.

 

[Timorthelame]

"Sanctions don't work"

Biggest part of Russian budget is oil export. Here are prices for barrel of oil on markets.
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Pre-war all oil was 90-ish for a barrel. Nowadays Urals oil (so Moscow one) is for 66 and steadily going down. This is one of most measurable effect of sanctions. However, there are many more.

I don't know on how high does of copium you have to be to think that situation for Russia is in any way good.

The cost of everything not Russian is going up while the cost for everything Russian is going down. Sanctions are working, how? Your food prices are going up because of Russian sanctions. Your fuel prices are going up because of sanctions. Your cost of living is on the rise partly due to sanctions. But, sanctions on Russia will destroy that country in just another few days?
Sanctions do not work.
Afghanistan, the Balkans, Belarus, Burma, Central African Republic, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zimbabwe.
All of these countries are under part or unilateral sanctions by the US.

Sanctions don't work because used coffee filters are both stronger and more water proof.

 

[kuuu]

-Kiev attack was a feint/raid

Russian shill, didn't read LOL.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It's 2022. More people speak English in Europe than all other languages combined. Why would they write it in German?

Du machst keinen sinn

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Why would they write it in German?

BRO THEY'RE IN GERMANIA.

 

[Frisk]

Might as well point out that Russian forces have been bombing anywhere but in Kiev. It was left alone as a gesture of goodwill in Turkey.
Till tonight.

Seems to coincide with Gen. Alexander Dvornikov's recent promotion.

The dude is dubbed as the "Butcher of Syria." He's got a history of not caring about civilian casualties and has reportedly replaced all of the other commanders in the now-streamlined Russian chain of command.

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Intelligence officials have said that Putin expected the invasion in February to be a swift and easy win for the Kremlin but that it was met with unrelenting resistance. Bringing in Dvornikov, a man known for his cruelty to civilians, is an attempt to break the spirit of the Ukrainian people, Stavridis warned.

"He is the goon called in by Vladimir Putin to flatten cities like Aleppo in Syria," Stavridis said. "He has used tools of terrorism throughout that period, including working with the Syrian forces, torture centers, systematic rape, nerve agents. He is the worst of the worst."

Dvornikov oversaw a Russian air campaign in Syria that flew more than 9,000 bombing sorties, Russia's Vedomosti newspaper quoted Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu as saying in 2016. The Russian warplanes pounded rebel-held cities such as Aleppo and Homs, killing scores of civilians and turning the tide of the war in favor of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

In October 2016, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra’ad al Hussein, described Aleppo as "a slaughterhouse" and "a gruesome locus of pain and fear, where the lifeless bodies of small children are trapped under streets of rubble and pregnant women deliberately bombed."

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Granted the same source states that being brutal is part and parcel of the Russian military but the fact remains that he alone has attained the "butcher" monicker. Dude's already giving me the vibes of Grigory Zass, who was basically Tsarist Russia's Judge Holden.

 

[Fcret]

BRO THEY'RE IN GERMANIA.

It's spelled Türkiye

 

[kuuu]

The dude is dubbed as the "Butcher of Syria."

By western media. 5 days ago.

 

[KonradCruise]

Their guided missile cruisers and destroyers are all old Cold War stock from the 80's. Only so much you can do to keep those things running, refits aren't magic. Kinda seems like Russia is holding on to them out of pride more than anything else.

you don't hold onto warships from the 80s out of pride, you hold on to warships from the 80s because they cost as much as a regiment to field and produce and a mid sized naval asset total loss is five-fingered slap across the face to any country including the US.

If its not broken and its expensive as hell, definitely don't fix it.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Buhanka Chan keeps on getting upgraded as this war progresses, now she is in 3D.

 

[cistendered]

Seems to coincide with Gen. Alexander Dvornikov's recent promotion.
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The dude is dubbed as the "Butcher of Syria." He's got a history of not caring about civilian casualties and has reportedly replaced all of the other commanders in the now-streamlined Russian chain of command.

Excerpt:

Archived.

Granted the same source states that being brutal is part and parcel of the Russian military but the fact remains that he alone has attained the "butcher" monicker. Dude's already giving me the vibes of Grigory Zass, who was basically Tsarist Russia's Judge Holden.

Whoa, what?!?! Not the Butcher of Syria, he's so deadly they gave him a scary sounding name. I bet he's murdered millions of children all by himself with nothing but a few truckloads of chemical weapons. Thankfully for ukiebros like you and me he's no match for the Ghost of Kiev or the Odessa Ass Bandit.