Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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Although I don't sociopolitically agree with "Breadtube," you've got to appreciate Shaun - all substance, no style, not even showing his face. I'm sure he goes through his day more at peace than Olly.
Have you seen his twitter? I would say shaun is neither style nor substance. Think of any subject one can have an opinion on and shaun will have a hot take on it that is guaranteed to make you at least snicker. You'd think it's an act but it seems he really believes what he says and is therefore just as delusional as Olly.
 
Contra makes a whole production, makes a world that carries a narrative exploratitarily, with which considered visual world-building helps ;
She also actually gives more than the briefest passing fuck about arts/ aesthetic/things not directly related to self.

Tube wants all focus on him, and his Right & True instruction
Olly’s greatest achievement so far - creating a context that has made Nyk seem talented, interesting and capable of human emotion.
Sunglasses make him look like a member of Banana Splits.

ironically enough he much too grifter to consider splitting his own banana

You are right. The expectation v reality fits this too well.

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I love this thread. Sometimes I come here especially to read it and purposefully don’t sign in because of I do I can happily lose all track of time and purpose marvelling over Olly’s vacuous existence.
That the most interesting thing about Olly’s thread is the anonymous Kiwi’s that post on it, usually about stuff only loosely related to Olly, is modern day poetry.
anyone is interested in a watch party please let me know in the Discord server (or DM me if you're not already in the server), we have like 4 people interested so far. He usually premieres his videos at 11 AM PST / 2 PM EST / 7 PM UK time on Friday (if people are busy at that time we can schedule it for another time).
Shit, I’m going to have to learn about this new fangled discord thingy, aren’t I?

Here’s a playlist of all 54 speeches from the Downing Street protest filmed from an angle that cuts the heads off anyone taller than a teeny Aydan.
I was amused at how instantly recognisable Olly’s brick shaped torso was, even in a tiny thumbnail.

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look at the size of those paws!
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Have you seen his twitter? I would say shaun is neither style nor substance. Think of any subject one can have an opinion on and shaun will have a hot take on it that is guaranteed to make you at least snicker. You'd think it's an act but it seems he really believes what he says and is therefore just as delusional as Olly.

Shaun's YouTube videos are very substantive. His videos on the "Bell Curve" book, the nuke drops on Japan, and Charlottesville/Alt-Right are especially good. I am not saying that they are above all rebuttals — in fact, they are written and designed to invite rebuttals — but they are well-sourced, well-argued, and engaging. Shaun consistently does a better job of bReAdTuBe than any other person, and it's...interesting that he's the one guy who does it without any apparent need for fame.

Olly's videos are...a narcissistic vehicle for his self-promotion, cloaked in whatever casuistic nonsense is needed to give it the sheen of academia and objectivity. Fast-fashion for intellectualism, that's what Olly is is all about.

I can't speak for Shaun's Twitter feed, I imagine it's bad — Twitter is designed for insta-takes, which are bad. But I also don't care about that at all.
 
Shaun's YouTube videos are very substantive. His videos on the "Bell Curve" book, the nuke drops on Japan, and Charlottesville/Alt-Right are especially good. I am not saying that they are above all rebuttals — in fact, they are written and designed to invite rebuttals — but they are well-sourced, well-argued, and engaging. Shaun consistently does a better job of bReAdTuBe than any other person, and it's...interesting that he's the one guy who does it without any apparent need for fame.

Olly's videos are...a narcissistic vehicle for his self-promotion, cloaked in whatever casuistic nonsense is needed to give it the sheen of academia and objectivity. Fast-fashion for intellectualism, that's what Olly is is all about.

I can't speak for Shaun's Twitter feed, I imagine it's bad — Twitter is designed for insta-takes, which are bad. But I also don't care about that at all.
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Oh my god is he implying his play is going to be about a prince in the 1400s that tried to suppress the fact that he got off on wearing women's clothing???????????
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Sometimes Mallory Moore is very close to a based take (it's good that she is is calling out her own community = other transwomen)

And then. she goes "you will realize that you are a woman" and suggests that when "transwomen" do a misogyny, or a bad things it's because they are women who "tried to bash their gender identity out of their systems"...rather than a distinct category of people who's experience, who's issues, interests and priorities are rather different from women, and who act like that because they believe it to be in their interests.

Seriously she is like, "you will realize that you are a woman", like all this time, even before they knew it themselves, they have been women. Like how does that work.
 
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Sometimes Mallory Moore is very close to a based take (it's good that she is is calling out her own community = other transwomen)

And then. she goes "you will realize that you are a woman" and suggests that when "transwomen" do a misogyny, or a bad things it's because they are women who "tried to bash their gender identity out of their systems"...rather than a distinct category of people who's experience, who's issues, interests and priorities are rather different from women, and who act like that because they believe it to be in their interests.

Seriously she is like, "you will realize that you are a woman", like all this time, even before they knew it themselves, they have been women. Like how does that work.
I couldn’t detect any take at all, it was absolute gobbledygook salad
 
Wasn't necessarily talking about today, just a general observation
Anyone else get the feeling from these tweets from their whole diaspora that’s these are the death throws?

Much as they talk about how Terfs will have to go into hiding when everyone finally gets with their programme, they must know that the wind is changing direction and they are fucked- they can’t stop talking though, and every thing they say to try and right it, just tips it further and further out of their grasp
 
There is one thing i been curious about and that is what is philosophy tube philosophy behind there videos if philosophy tube has a philosophy within all the back catalog of video's and it's not just politics then what is that philosophy given that am saying this on a kiwi farms thread about them it is probably not a good one
 
There's a Fop on the battlefield of Henry IV part 1, a Shakespeare play.......it is the right year.

That led me to a diverting hour of googling Shakespeare and Fops.

I found an interesting paper which talks about how Fop meant a foolish man who hasn't got a clue how ridiculous he is and how this later became a Fop as an effeminate man, still delusional, in later theatre and art.

This is quite an interesting read. It's not "queered" in the 2020s sense. Some of the descriptions are current day troons to an absolute T.

In particular this bit on page 13/14 about Sir Novelty Fashion. It sums up Ollie perfectly.

"Most theater historians claim that the fop as a familiar stage character reached his pinnacle in the late-Restoration period, specifically the 1690s. Collie Cibber, sometime actor, sometime playwright, and sometime theatre manager, was and remains largely regarded as the man who perfected the fop on the stage. In 1696, he introduced Sir Novelty Fashion, a part he wrote for himself, in Love’s Last Shift. Cibber would reprise the role later in the year to great success at Drury Lane in John Vanbrugh’s The Relapse, the sequel to Cibber’s original. Having bought his barony, Sir Novelty becomes Lord Foppington and, along with George Etherege’s earlier (1676) Sir Fopling Flutter, establishes himself—and Cibber who portrayed him—as the quintessential fop figure."

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Hotspur and the Fop, Henry IV part 1.
 
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The way they (especially Olly) got drawn in this picture reminds me of this
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Much as they talk about how Terfs will have to go into hiding when everyone finally gets with their programme, they must know that the wind is changing direction and they are fucked- they can’t stop talking though, and every thing they say to try and right it, just tips it further and further out of their grasp
People say the wind is changing direction but to me both the pro-trans and anti-trans camps are just getting louder and louder to the point of screaming over each other. In other words I can't really tell who's winning, at the moment I think it's still the trannies.
 
My original prediction of this play called The Prince with trans themes and “Shakespeare characters,” as Tube described, was that he was gonna do a take on Hamlet. We have “The Prince of Denmark” and the play has been adapted with gender-bending stuff before. There’s a silent film of Hamlet from 1921 in which the idea is that Hamlet is a woman who is in love with Horatio, but has to appear and live as a man for heir of the throne reasons. There is also a famous line from a play called “Die Hamletmaschine” by Heiner Müller (“The Hamletmachine” in English) where Hamlet says “I want to be a woman.” That line however is clearly not about trans-ness and the play deals more with issues in the 70s (when it was written.) That play is good (imo) but is pretty obscure for non-thespians, and is a favorite for edgy theatre kids to put up because it’s short (like 7 pages,) abstract and does something “cool” with Shakespeare.

However, that 1402 comment makes think Tube is looking more at Prince Hal (the future star of Shakespeare’s Henry V, who features in the Henry IV plays.) Hal’s arc throughout the Henriad is to have him grow from being a drunken reveler to grow into a proper king. He begins avoiding the truth of who he was born to be by partying, pranking, and whoring around in London. Hal also claims he’s purposely disguising himself as a degenerate in order to learn from the people and plans to eventually gloriously emerge as a true king. There’s plenty of Prince Hal character analysis stuff online so I won’t get into all of it here. I could see Tube taking the whole “denying the destiny of who you really are” theme and trying to put a trans spin on it. I don’t agree with that interpretation, for the record, this post is just about guessing at what Tube’s play is going to be about.
 
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More from yesterday's National Student Pride event:

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And a pizza review video from a few weeks back with a couple surprise cameos:

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He just learned a painful tranny rule. Never allow anyone to have control of any pictures/video of you.

You could show these to people and then show a philosophy tube video and they wouldn't know it's the same person.

He's got a head like quagmire from family guy.
 
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