Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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More from yesterday's National Student Pride event:

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And a pizza review video from a few weeks back with a couple surprise cameos:

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More from yesterday's National Student Pride event:

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And a pizza review video from a few weeks back with a couple surprise cameos:

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That pizza slice is actually a good half inch thick, Tube is just so huge it only appears to be 1mm.

Man it’s like waiting for a bus isn’t it?
Way to much Tube to consume now, am way behind.
I really have to gee myself up for the videos, it’s not easy consumption.

Just watching the speech-
same as last time;
'they say this, they say that..'
STILL on about Fuck You Mum And Dad

This Mf is 30 years old.
mum and dad paid him the stellar education that greased the way for his current 6 figure per annum oppression Larp.
They live 300 miles away from him.
Bro chill
 
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I’m watching the Student Pride panel now. (it’s on their website.). Olly got a big applause break with “Trans Power,” though he didn’t scream it this time.

He says he doesn’t really care about trans depictions in the media, he cares about power. He cares more about half a dozen cis people who are holding troons down. He says if he encountered the head of the NHS he’d tell him to “desegregate the health care system, now!” He says he won’t name the person. But people can look it up. But then he clumsily adds that he isn’t encouraging anyone to go after this person.

It’s just funny watching Olly LARP “trans power!!!!” and “I want control over my goddamn life!!!” only to immediately issue equivocations and provisos the second he thinks he might get in trouble for something he’s said.

Thus far Oliver has been pretty restrained, no deranged giggling yet. I’ll edit this post with any other commentary.
 
I’m watching the Student Pride panel now. (it’s on their website.). Olly got a big applause break with “Trans Power,” though he didn’t scream it this time.

He says he doesn’t really care about trans depictions in the media, he cares about power. He cares more about half a dozen cis people who are holding troons down. He says if he encountered the head of the NHS he’d tell him to “desegregate the health care system, now!” He says he won’t name the person. But people can look it up. But then he clumsily adds that he isn’t encouraging anyone to go after this person.

It’s just funny watching Olly LARP “trans power!!!!” and “I want control over my goddamn life!!!” only to immediately issue equivocations and provisos the second he thinks he might get in trouble for something he’s said.

Thus far Oliver has been pretty restrained, no deranged giggling yet. I’ll edit this post with any other commentary.
Literally same, just updated my original post w link to it, but that’s miles back now.
I found most of the other people alright, it’s only when the middle class ones start speaking that it starts getting pathetic and oppression larpy.
I was gonna say white middle class, but when the brown ‘I’m the token cis person, it’s fantastic lol!’ Girl started, she was just buzzword bingo bullshit too.

It really is just entrenched sheltered cunts spoiling everything and never shutting up as with all.

Tube seems to have the exact same few lines he recycles all over his life, wonder if/when he will drop his Fuck You Mum (And To A Lesser Extent Dad)

I’m not aware of the older trans woman sat next to him- whose hair is doing exactly what Tubes hair is supposed to be doing and failing
Looks kinda strange but don’t seem too bad, initially anyway- although doesn’t come off, mannerisms wise, as anything other than an old school very gay man.

You could feel Tubes seethe even offscreen when said person was talking about how women and the mum specifically had taken it in their stride and been the most supportive, lol.
Wonder if Tube saw all that surgery and thanked his lucky stars he just overhyped his nose job, lol- the room has clearly got maybe about 5 people in the audience tho ? Maybe it was done at like 9.30am

/Lol when Tube said ‘trans youth HOMLUSS in my neighbourhood’ -accent /voice train fail.

Hmm I actually don’t think the person next to tube is actually older? Or at least not by much more than ten years.

I think it’s just fucked up too much surgery- the lip, check fillers, weirdly low hairline and tiny nose all combine to make the eyes tiny and idk if that’s what makes them look old or if it’s just cos it’s usually only older people who have that much surgery looking so blatant - probably that.

Tube just flat out lying at about 2hr 14, talking about some Times article in 2019 which caused a moral panic which “stopped a pharmacist dispensing our hormones to us, so that had a direct effect’ mf you weren’t on hormones in 2019, Our who?

Oh u just realised the girl sitting next to “Jammie Dodger” is his gf.
She’s fucking slagging off the north now, talking about how “A footballer called Mo Salah ...? identified as Muslim- and he’s at a football club called Liverpool, and we know that the North isn’t exactly the most livable” Bitch what the fuck that mean? Also, identified lmao-

Doesn’t know who Mo Salah is can you show yourself as any more middle class fucking hell.

Oh wait there’s loads of people there! It’s just utterly silent is all.
Uh tube says Houseless after fucking up Homeless. Houseless is such a pathetic word and ridiculously, worse than homeless: loads of people live in what woudlnt be called a house- flats, dorms, caravans, boats, yurts ffs- they aren’t *home*less. It was clearly just picked as a way to stunt on people by appearing more clued in by using different terminology, and god does it show.
He then goes for a ‘give me my god damn medicine!’
Such a bad actor unconvincingly delivering every line..

The host is now referring to Eddie Izzard as her which is weird, who apparently slapped down her trying to ask him about his gender identity (“it’s the least interesting thing about me’’) but she didn’t seem to realise it lol.
 
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Looks liek someone posted a video of the Kill James Bond LIVE! from today

In action
Olly truly has a similar torso to Chris-chan when you see him flail around in the video.

Bonus image showing the eyeliner bottle exploded on Ollie
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Absolutely amazing photo. You've got three immensely middle class men all LARPing- as women, as the poor, as a supplicant to a foreign religion, as revolutionaries, as whatever anti-normal thing they can get their hands on. No sane individual looks at this and thinks "ah yes, the vanguard of the working poor!". Read all the critical theory and Marxist ideology (or just skim through breadtube for five minutes, lets be honest with these people) you want, you're not going to convince anyone but those who have enough money and free time to not be the core audience of your propaganda.

At least actual Communists are smart with their image. Brezhnev was an addict who accidentally got aired on TV a little too sloshed and pilled up a few times, but you'd never find party members in public with fine silks or citrus fruits or with Dachas that blatantly violated the construction limits with their exteriors, and nor would they go on TV to opine on how next year the a new boarding school and yacht club in Vladivostok will be opening. This is exactly who Orwell was referring to when he talked about useful idiots, or the types of person who so radically alienates the poor from left-wing politics. Imagine trying to convince those at Wigan Pier their salvation would be brought by queer transvestites who openly jerk off to their fantasies of being a woman raped by a guy with an untrimmed beard. Then realise that these people are actually the legitimate core voter bloc the Labour Party is trying to cultivate today.

Sorry Attlee, welcome to the wonderful future.
Alice is hillarious, I didnt realise how big he actually was. Imagine him lumbering into the womens room at mosque- what on earth would they think, he definitely wouldnt make it out again on his own two feet.
They are all dressed like absolute shit, wtf.

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Confidently, ignorantly opine on subjects you have not the slightest idea about? suggest policy forthwith? why-ever not, babes?

(has he stopped saying babes, actually? haven't been able to stomach him speaking for more than about 7 seconds at a time for over 6 months, but it kinda seems like it)
This is your brain on deconstructionism.

It's wrong for Muslims to object to something so obviously obscene and unforgivable, something so transgressive that anyone who attempted it was so obviously LARPing for literal brownie points, because a man wants to feel special. It's also wrong for people to want their cultural and architectural heritage, something which provides immense satisfaction to millions at very little cost, because the technocrat actor believes it would be better that it would be better to live in hyper-efficient cubes without style or substance.

I doubt Olly would have the same opinion if some disgusting building like the original Stonewall bar, run by the Mafia without running water, was demolished to make way for housing for the homeless.
The KJB live set is going to peak a lot of people. It's like watching a low effort drag show. I listened to one of their other recordings a few days ago, and apart from the jarring use of the names Alice and Abigail occassionally, it sounded like three lads bantering the whole time. Even Choob's shelium voice lapses into a bad case of English Kermit the Frog as the session progresses.
I doubt it. You have to be a very special kind of person to go beyond a casual viewer of Olly or others to actually watching that show, and even more demented to go in person. They're already going in with preconceived ideas. Olly's troon voice is just proof positive to them that transitioning and hormones work and in a few years you won't even know he has a cock and balls between those birthing hips.

I wouldn't be surprised if the audience genuinely thought that their skin-walking was legitimate. Remember, a lot of the uninformed public who even just don't see what's wrong with allowing trans people to transition in principle are so propagandised that they think hormones can be reversed/change you into the opposite gender and that SRS results in fully functional sex organs. You might get a small percentage of John Q Public who thought SRS was effective and created working and visually correct sex organs but that it would result in sterility. Holding the opinion that these procedures are butchery and have no positive effects isn't even that widely held in the groups that are properly informed on the procedures. These forums are the absolute minority of a minority.
I’m watching the Student Pride panel now. (it’s on their website.). Olly got a big applause break with “Trans Power,” though he didn’t scream it this time.

He says he doesn’t really care about trans depictions in the media, he cares about power. He cares more about half a dozen cis people who are holding troons down. He says if he encountered the head of the NHS he’d tell him to “desegregate the health care system, now!” He says he won’t name the person. But people can look it up. But then he clumsily adds that he isn’t encouraging anyone to go after this person.

It’s just funny watching Olly LARP “trans power!!!!” and “I want control over my goddamn life!!!” only to immediately issue equivocations and provisos the second he thinks he might get in trouble for something he’s said.

Thus far Oliver has been pretty restrained, no deranged giggling yet. I’ll edit this post with any other commentary.
This is obvious from watching his "Violence and Protesting" video. He hides behind the opinions of long since irrelevant philosophers to exhort others to go kill and maim on his behalf while he just gets to claim he's discussing rather than instructing. He also completely fails to adequately explain or follow his own theorists/his own opinions. One of the people he uses is an anarchist who considers all state violence as "mythic", used to create rather than enforce law (which is entirely nonsensical) and then believes all non-state/mob violence is "divine" and perfect and so on. The very example he uses is when a non-state force of right-wing soldiers attempted to coup the Weimar republic under Kapp, but places both Kapp's soldiers and the striking Ruhr workers who ousted them as the same side, then says that the Socialists who tried to overthrow both the Democrats and the Militarists are a group of "divine" justice givers.

His entire world view is just tautology used to justify his side having power and the other side having none. Against all reason, someone who opines on philosophy has nothing but double standards. I just have to ask at what point you even should consider yourself a leftist? If all that defines good and evil is where the decisions are in relation to your opinions, just eschew all labels and call yourself a totalitarian. Go full Patrick Bateman posting. Don't take your meds. Even the worst left-wing writers tried to justify their double standards by some other standard that was at least mostly consistent, eg: not in relation to state but to capital. That way you can claim oppression all you want while the state pampers you and gives you thousands of dollars in welfare and pays a quarter million dollars for your cosmetic surgeries and speech training and otherwise live like a leech while posting a shitty video once every blue moon.

I'm so sick of these effete retard twinks. I respect types like Stalin for actually having convictions and giving up their lives in pursuit of a revolutionary ideal, and not being afraid to spill blood to get it. Olly and his ilk will literally live of a bourgeoisie government and do their best to retain their middle class lives with little to no actual work. They are the absolute worst of their class. They wouldn't even be shot if Lenin came to power in the UK, they'd be paraded through every single northern industrial town as the parasites they are to rouse revolutionary fervour.
 
I’m watching the Student Pride panel now. (it’s on their website.). Olly got a big applause break with “Trans Power,” though he didn’t scream it this time.

He says he doesn’t really care about trans depictions in the media, he cares about power. He cares more about half a dozen cis people who are holding troons down. He says if he encountered the head of the NHS he’d tell him to “desegregate the health care system, now!” He says he won’t name the person. But people can look it up. But then he clumsily adds that he isn’t encouraging anyone to go after this person.

It’s just funny watching Olly LARP “trans power!!!!” and “I want control over my goddamn life!!!” only to immediately issue equivocations and provisos the second he thinks he might get in trouble for something he’s said.

Thus far Oliver has been pretty restrained, no deranged giggling yet. I’ll edit this post with any other commentary.
I almost gave up at Juno Dawson's attempts to get a cheer from the lesbians in the audience. There were so few it took three tries with pisspoor results. I'm glad I waited for the panel to arrive though. The panelists all walk onto the stage and take their seats. Choob walks on acting like a massive celebrity, and is the only panelist to wave, like an absolute narcissist. It's awkward and hilarious and nothing changes in the volume of applause. People were probably wondering who the waving weirdo is.

Choob must have been backstage planning it. Thinking "When I walk on I'll give all my fans a wave" and was so obviously expecting it to raise the roof.
 
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I almost gave up at Juno Dawson's attempt at getting a cheer from the lesbians in the audience. There were so few it took three tries with pisspoor results. I'm glad I waited for the panel to arrive though. The panelists all walk onto the stage and take their seats. Choob walks on acting like a massive celebrity, and is the only panelist to wave, like an absolute narcissist. It's awkward and hilarious and nothing changes in the volume of applause. People were probably wondering who the waving weirdo is.

Choob must have been backstage planning it. Thinking "When I walk on I'll give all my fans a wave." and was so obviously expecting it to raise the roof.


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Oh god, so much cringe.

He really does think he's famous. He doesn't understand that the reason the crowd cheers when he's giving his megaphone speeches has nothing to do with him and everything to do with the fact that they'd go wild for a smear of shit if it was yelling about trans powah.
 
More from yesterday's National Student Pride event:

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And a pizza review video from a few weeks back with a couple surprise cameos:

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Respect to Pizza Lad for being a decent person, he goes out of his way to compliment the nice ladies as they leave. Stressing their gender. Which is the same way so many people treat trans women. "I know you're trans, but I'm not a jerk, so I'm going to ackowledge where you're at." But so many don't recognize the unspoken part and think it must be because they pass so well.

I've forgotten the name of the other trans youtuber who takes a bite of pizza. Is this Abby's new boo?
 
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I've finally caught up on this thread. Philosophy Tube first came to my attention before the coming out when I saw a Contra/breadtube thread on /tttt/. I have become equally interested in the other two weirdos he podcasts with. There is so much to loathe about Oliver but I still fall back on the initial gripe I had before any of the transgenderism came out: he doesn't do philosophy. Never has. He is just a youtube video essayist. This was true at the start and it's only more evident now. He would put himself in a much better light in my eyes if he did some kind of rebranding and ditched the name. This makes me more MATI than I care to admit.

I do hope someone attends the upcoming event, quietly and respectfully taking notes. I really wonder about how they are in person, especially Alice given her much smaller web presence.
I first found out about him a few years ago when I was trying to find actual philosophy content on YouTube (Bryan Magee interviewing Anthony Quinton or whatever) and he came up. I was also pissed off about how superficial his knowledge of the subject seemed to be despite giving his channel such a grandiose title, and I found him the most annoying Breadtuber (against stiff competition). He's as smug and unlikeable as Contrapoints or Hbomberguy but much more retarded.

I then mostly forgot about him (I think I saw the video in which he appears half-naked with a snake and noted how his ego had swollen) until the recent Lindsay Ellis meltdown. Apparently her audiobooks were narrated by someone called 'Abigail Thorn'. "Sounds like a porn name", I thought. Googled it and: HOLY SHIT, he actually fucking did it. He went trans for the attention. How hilariously unsurprising. I've been hooked ever since. The majority of lolcows are actually pretty depressing. Hating on Olly just never gets old somehow.
She's doing the thing women do when they unconsciously put themselves down around people they feel sorry for or who for whatever reason they think deserves gentle, kid-glove behavior. Unfortunately when they do it to AGPs the AGPs just take it literally. It's a tragic mismatch of female socialization and autogynephile narcissism.
The good thing about the trans movement is that it made me realise how I inadvertently downplayed myself via language when it came to expressing my thoughts. Even when I was 100% sure about something I would still verbally put some doubt in there somewhere lol. Its been hard to break but at least Im aware of the problem now - it is crazy how subconscious this stuff is.

I am feeling hopeful for the future as the UK government has successfully managed to separate the T from the LGB in regards to conversion therapy. I know there is a long way to go but I cant wait for the day when all pretense on troon identity is dropped.
There are some lines of a poem by Kingsley Amis which have stuck in my head:
Women are really much nicer than men:
No wonder we like them.

I think women are, on the whole, much nicer, which is a very attractive quality but also sometimes infuriating when it isn't deserved.
What does he want the certificate for though? How would a certificate saying he's 'non-binary' measurably improve his life? He's literally just a man in every way. He is walking proof that 'non-binary' doesn't exist.
As what though? It seems like he's run out of politically useful things to come out as.
He could go back to being a man and come out as an FtM. Then he'd be double trans.
 
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I still don't understand how this psycho larping as a muslim woman doesn't have their own thread.
How much does he do online? Olly for instance goes long stretches without saying or doing anything notable.
My god, he really does take every opportunity to LARP as a revolutionary leader from a movie. It's like the ultimate narcissistic dream.
 
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And a pizza review video from a few weeks back with a couple surprise cameos:

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Omg it’s Claire he’s with.
6.5 come on bro what do you want from a pizza? Reckon he just had to look a little less easily impressed than Claire?
Wounded when guy asked his name, surname given and everything. Wonder what they were lurking about soho for. No bags. Weird. Maybe the studio is near there or some shit

See how Tube had no craic to give other Youtube guy? No banter, slice of pizza, name drop and fuck off.
The no-recognition-dice after name drop probably accounts for his coldness lol. He missed the opportunity to bring up who he was initially and with that chance gone, couldn’t make it about himself so dipped
 
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Omg it’s Claire he’s with.
6.5 come on bro what do you want from a pizza? Reckon he just had to look a little less easily impressed than Claire?
Wounded when guy asked his name, surname given and everything. Wonder what they were lurking about soho for. No bags. Weird. Maybe the studio is near there or some shit

See how Tube had no craic to give other Youtube guy? No banter, slice of pizza, name drop and fuck off.
The no dice after name drop probably accounts for his coldness lol. He missed the opportunity to bring up who he was initially and with that chance gone, couldn’t make it about himself so dipped
Claire also stayed off to the side out of shot so Queen Abi’s star could shine bright
 
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