Trashfire The Lolcow Uprising - Baked Alaska, Ethan Ralph, and Nick Fuentes declare war on Jim/Metokur and other drama channels.

[Tomboy Respecter]

Retink Retard take: I think Nick might have won. Not because he made any points or did anything right, but because he had nothing to lose and it pushed some eyes to Cozy. He still came out looking like a retard, and his crew of marry degenerates were awful, but he still got eyes on his bullshit. I don't think it will last, or get him any real benefit long term, but that's the benefit of being dirt, it's easy to come out overall ahead of where you started.

Jim was smarter and funnier, so he won on that end, but I don't think he did any more damage than Nick and co does to themselves daily.

You could say Jim didn't win and there's a definite argument for that, but Nick just outed himself (in more ways that one) as a thin-skinned pathetic faggot who thinks much more of himself than he actually is. It exposed Nick as a right-wing Vaush really.

I don't know why Michael gets any props for this. He kept trying to drag Flamenco in even though Flamenco kept saying no. Two times he supported Nick and tried to hold Jim to answer and explain a point, but he'd let Nick spin like a fag non-stop. Didn't do shit when Baked, Ralph and Nick just screamed together whenever Jim tried to counter a point. Michael was absolute trash.

I listen to shitstorms like this because I typically feel detached from these things, and even though I prefer Jim over the people he went up against I wouldn't mind if Jim got legitimately felted. But fucking hell did I fail at feeling detached tonight. The way Nick argued there actually got under my skin, badly. The intense amount of hypocrisy on every argument, the "U mad!?!?" tier of deflections constantly. I could go on and on but you all heard it, it was incredible, and I really wonder if his own fans listened to the way Nick behaved and didn't think it was the most weak and slimy approach possible.

Jim won, because Nick was arguing in bad faith and it was, I think, obvious to everyone, but Jims performance wasn't great. He let Nick jerk him around a lot, forcing Jim to elaborate on points he didn't need to. But I'll be honest, maybe this is copium on my part but I think the big thing is that Jim honestly just didn't seem to care. He didn't really want to be there, had no real drive or desire to "beat" nick, the only time he seemed fired up was when Ralph got in the call, and only because I think Jim actually takes extreme pleasure in making Ralph seethe.

How can you hype yourself up to fight an egotistical retard like Nick? At least Ralph is genuinley entertaining in the way he projects the degenerate shit he does onto others and Baked is Down's Syndrome levels of retarded and obviously so. Nick argues like a politician and acts in bad faith (like you said) while using annoying zoomer-tier "humor" to pretend that he's not being a little gay, effeminate bitch. I can at least give Ralph and Baked this: they might not own up to their faults, but they don't try to act duplicitous about them to the point that they come off as fake and un-genuine. IN a sense, they own their faults even if they don't say it. Nick is a fucking snake and a liar to his very core. The only reason he doesn't get away with it is because he's too egotistical to realize he's dumb. This was a fake fucking fight (with some lit moments to be sure) because one person is fake as fuck and tries to put on good "optics", even though he's fucked up his life beyond repair by any sane person's standard.

 

[The FedEx Pope]

Overall, Nick's performance was poor, and that's putting it lightly. There was some shit he just had no response to, stuff that has been out about him for YEARS.
I though Nick would do better.

He could have just outed his cancer was fake as a ploy to cover up his real identity as a successful investor who isn't terminally online...

 

[Darjeeling]

My favorite part of all of this is how Catboi's goonsquad still want to impress their surrogate daddy Jim. They stopped what they were doing at the mere notion of making Jim chuckle.

 

[SlipNHonk]

The Hitler 2.0 thing was either way too edgy or way too cringe. Maybe both.

This is when you forget you're not an imageboard anonymously shitposting and actually tying yourself to a statement with your face and name fully exposed. I think the first time I ever witnessed Fuentes is when he openly said something during a stream along the lines of "mommy" with Tulsi Gabbard and that summarized my impression of this grifter.

 

[Abel]

He could have just outed his cancer was fake as a ploy to cover up his real identity as a successful investor who isn't terminally online...

I bet that guy has been harassed a lot just for his potato nigger name lol.

 

[SlipNHonk]

The amount of Spergery and autistic rage from nick was unbearable and I'm genuinely surprised how all three of them, Nick, Baked and Ralph had the opportunity to dog pile Jim and they ended up just spewing completely random garbage and failing miserably.

Three Stooges Syndrome

 

[Retink]

Not a retarded take at all. Another way of putting it might be that to anyone with a three digit IQ it's clear that Jim was much better... but those types are not the typical Cozy viewers.

It's a bit of a joke on the username and tag.

You could say Jim didn't win and there's a definite argument for that, but Nick just outed himself (in more ways that one) as a thin-skinned pathetic faggot who thinks much more of himself than he actually is. It exposed Nick as a right-wing Vaush really.

That's nothing new really. Maybe I just have an exceptionally low view of a platform composed of Baked, Ralph, and Beardson, but outside of shitting himself live on stream and crying Nick couldn't really come out worse than before. The only person who came close to losing was Baked with how retarded he was.

 

[make_it_so]

You could say Jim didn't win and there's a definite argument for that, but Nick just outed himself (in more ways that one) as a thin-skinned pathetic faggot who thinks much more of himself than he actually is. It exposed Nick as a right-wing Vaush really.

I bet you Nick's problems with "drama channels" are really going to explode after this. This was a Sargon/Liberalists-level cringe show.

 

[ThatDarnIrishMan]

It's definitely not the scale of Pewdiepie or whoever, but I don't think Keem really ever did anything with Cozy before. I'm not chalking it up as some extraordinary gain, just that I don't think things were left any worse for Nick because of how low he is.

See, I don't really agree with that either.

Because the net gain is a definite zero. No new viewers, their already small, niche audience doesn't grow. It hasn't been exposed to anyone new.

So, if there's no possibly of a net gain, the only two possibilities left are it remains totally neutral as you said, or a net loss. It's like if I'm a diet and say "Okay. I'll flip a coin. Heads I don't break the diet. Tails I get a pizza." It's either things staying the same or get worse. That means Nick just has to hope that none of his takes scared away his brain dead existing fanbase. And this is a debate where his own people called him a virgin, he said he supports being a criminal, he supports being a rapist, he doesn't mind alcoholics, he doesn't mind people being gay. It doesn't really work well with his LARPing as a good Christian boy.

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

Well, yeah, Jim didn't have his heart in this, he says that the entire debate is gay and boring five times. It's hard to have fun debating a guy who is genuinely too retarded to feel shame, understand the concept of hypocrisy, and is too spineless to actually have an opinion or stance on anything beyond edgelord contrarianism.

 

[Darjeeling]

He could have just outed his cancer was fake as a ploy to cover up his real identity as a successful investor who isn't terminally online...

He actually sounds like him is the funniest part

 

[12345678901]

I saw Nick visibly cringe at his own words early in the stream. Later he embraced it and started doubling down on the retardation.

It was obvious that he just wanted metokur to appear on his site. He wasn't passionate at all to argue, he couldn't keep his rage hard on even when he managed to get it up. Jim pushes their buttons hard but they are just unable to truly hate him.

 

[The FedEx Pope]

He actually sounds like him is the funniest part

His father's name is 'Jim'

It probably is Metokur, and he's altering his voice by tuning the pitch higher to mask his dulcet tones as Ralph put it sexily

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

My favorite part of all of this is how Catboi's goonsquad still want to impress their surrogate daddy Jim. They stopped what they were doing at the mere notion of making Jim chuckle.

Baked: (Excitedly) I got a laugh out of the funny man!

Nick: (Clearly Upset) ... Only because it was a dirty joke.

 

[Matt Damon]

It exposed Nick as a right-wing Vaush really.

Honestly, I'm hesitant to even call Nick "right-wing".

He doesn't seem to actually espouse almost any conservative principles. He calls nearly any traditionally American conservative stance "cringe".

 

[manfromnantucket]

Nick is bringing on random Telegram zoomers, one of which asked him "Hey Nick, does this bring you back to the days of Model UN?"

Nick replied, "Nothing will match Model UN", which I think just about tells you everything you need to know about him as a zoomer kid who misses the days of fake roleplay debates. I don't think even Nick knows what his goal was except to act like Jim or anyone else cares about his fake roleplay games

 

[Retink]

See, I don't really agree with that either.

Because the net gain is a definite zero. No new viewers, their already small, niche audience doesn't grow. It hasn't been exposed to anyone new.

So, if there's no possibly of a net gain, the only two possibilities left are it remains totally neutral as you said, or a net loss. It's like if I'm a diet and say "Okay. I'll flip a coin. Heads I don't break the diet. Tails I get a pizza." It's either things staying the same or get worse. That means Nick just has to hope that none of his takes scared away his brain dead existing fanbase. And this is a debate where his own people called him a virgin, he said he supports being a criminal, he supports being a rapist, he doesn't mind alcoholics, he doesn't mind people being gay. It doesn't really work well with his LARPing as a good Christian boy.

That's the thing though, I think that remaining AF audience is so retarded nothing will change their support as either they are absolutely brain dead or they're cucked like Destiny who is there "ironically". I can see them picking up a very small number of idiots from Keem's audience or other corners that might stumble on the stream and not realize it's not some kind of weird joke.

 

[The Big Dream]

Ultimately neither side had much to discuss, so Fuentes decided to cannibalise himself for all our pleasure. God what a retard.

 

[Malaika]

I can at least give Ralph and Baked this: they might not own up to their faults, but they don't try to act duplicitous about them to the point that they come off as fake and un-genuine. IN a sense, they own their faults even if they don't say it. Nick is a fucking snake and a liar to his very core

That's very true. The past few weeks I kept wondering why Nick would stick up for Amoral scum like Ralph but tonight showed that Nick is way, way worse. At least when someone fights with Ralph at worst he'll scream over you but he'll at least address what you're saying. Nick will just stonewall the conversation over and over with "U mad!?!" "Ur not funny" "Ur Dumb". He was so infuriating to listen to that even though I groaned when they came on, Ralph and Baked ended up coming across as less pathetic than Nick.

Nick is bigger trash than Ralph, I genuinely mean that. Ralph at least has enough humanity to feel embarrassed about the shit he does, even though he lies and claims he doesn't. But I honestly can't remember when I listened to someone as disingenuous and absolutely shameless as Nick, that guy honestly has no principles and has bigger delusions about himself than even Ralph does.

 

[SlipNHonk]

Honestly, I'm hesitant to even call Nick "right-wing".

He doesn't seem to actually espouse almost any conservative principles. He calls nearly any traditionally American conservative stance "cringe".

I'm surprised he hasn't adopted the pagan larp shit you see on /pol/. I guess that's the only redline he'll stop at due to his family and beliefs.