Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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A Chinese artist made a phone wallpaper.

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I hope that poor old babushka wasn't harmed after the video ended

and now i know why Zelensky never asks for food or medical aid, seems like the Ukranians have enough bread in the oven

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The one thing I absolutely loathe about this whole bullshit western virtue signaling campaign, is the narrative that Ukraine is a "democracy". This is particuarly perpetuted among Americans who insist that Europe=democratic. Ukraine is just about as free as Mexico and El Salvador. The ignorance of the average American about the outside world is astounding.
The only thing we need to know is which end of the freedom to point at furrener faces
 
Meanwhile in Moscow:

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I hope these drunk cunts get punished for disorderly conduct.
Why though, this is a self-own already.
>want to fight in war like the SS avengers but mom says no
>drunkenly fight cardboard cutout of old woman instead

<loose
<turn the passive into an interactive tourist attraction by allowing people to photograph their friends with the body of the old lady.


Also congrats to the genius for going for the lady (the bit people sympathise with) instead of the soviet flag (the "enemy" propaganda). Bestest of optics.
 
I haven't come around in a while, haven't kept up with events, have just been too busy, but I do hear snippets of things.
More importantly way back when I predicted this would end in one to two months, and now we're coming up on the end of month 2, so it's high time I changed my expectations. Is there a bullet point list on what's happened this month besides the Moskva turning into a submarine and the arrival of more military aid for Ukraine in the form of materiel? I remember hearing that late April was meant to be a second go at a decisive offensive so that the Russians can get a win right on VE day but that was complete hearsay and may be complete bullshit, as I've heard of plenty of hearsay considering the nature of information on this.
 
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I haven't come around in a while, haven't kept up with events, have just been too busy, but I do hear snippets of things.
More importantly way back when I predicted this would end in one to two months, and now we're coming up on the end of month 2, so it's high time I changed my expectations. Is there a bullet point list on what's happened this month besides the Moskva turning into a submarine and the arrival of more military aid for Ukraine in the form of materiel? I remember hearing that late April was meant to be a second go at a decisive offensive so that the Russians can get a win right on VE day but that was complete hearsay and may be complete bullshit, as I've heard of plenty of hearsay considering the nature of information on this.
Mariupol nearly cleared, only Azovstal left. Russians laid siege to it and waiting for defenders to surrender or die from starvation(can't wait for this event to be compered to Holodomor). Maybe there will be some shenanigans with possible breakthrough or another set of helicopters will try to evacuate defenders, but both of those seem unlikely to succeed.
On the Donbass front there is constant artillery shelling as of 3-4 days ago. Some say main attack already began, some say they just softening up Ukrainian forces and only doing probing attacks, only taking places where Ukrainian defense is weak or defenders simply left. It's hard for me to tell which of those points of view is correct at this moment.
Also, Russian MoD announced their plans to take south Ukraine in this phase of the war and make land connection to Transnistria.
That's about it for now, i think.
 
I haven't come around in a while, haven't kept up with events, have just been too busy, but I do hear snippets of things.
More importantly way back when I predicted this would end in one to two months, and now we're coming up on the end of month 2, so it's high time I changed my expectations. Is there a bullet point list on what's happened this month besides the Moskva turning into a submarine and the arrival of more military aid for Ukraine in the form of materiel? I remember hearing that late April was meant to be a second go at a decisive offensive so that the Russians can get a win right on VE day but that was complete hearsay and may be complete bullshit, as I've heard of plenty of hearsay considering the nature of information on this.
Appointing Aleksandr Dvornikov as overall Russian commander where the Russians didn't really have one before, following the ending of any operations in the north barring the firing of rockets at targets there and similar, seems key. It has meant or coincided with more men concentrating on taking the whole of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts (progress is unclear as of yet), plus the corridor between Donbass and Crimea, which might be a corridor or more. It should mean the end of appalling command failures like that queue of vehicles north of Kyiv and VDV mouldering away on garrison duties after operations failed, like Hostomel or Antonov airport. His characteristic tactic of shelling Syrian towns until they surrendered will, if repeated (and it seems somewhat like that with ill aimed missile attacks on towns) guarantee that Zelenskiy can rely on an endless flow of military supplies. However, a competent commander with definite authority seems to have helped the Russian invasion.

If this report is anyway accurate Russian commanders retain extraordinary fantasies about their and their forces limited skill set. They won't take Odessa or other large cities like Kharkiv. Mariupol could be approached from Crimea and Donbass, and is still not under full Russian control.
 
Mariupol nearly cleared, only Azovstal left. Russians laid siege to it and waiting for defenders to surrender or die from starvation(can't wait for this event to be compered to Holodomor).
NPR radio was reporting on this yesterday and they framed it as "a large number of Ukrainians were surrounded in an industrial area in Mariupol and the Russians weren't allowing them to leave, forcing mass starvation." At no point in the story was it mentioned that the remaining Ukes are active soldiers and arguable Nazis.
 
The one thing I absolutely loathe about this whole bullshit western virtue signaling campaign, is the narrative that Ukraine is a "democracy". This is particuarly perpetuted among Americans who insist that Europe=democratic. Ukraine is just about as free as Mexico and El Salvador. The ignorance of the average American about the outside world is astounding.

Same here in the UK.

Anyone who thinks they live in a truly democratic country/state/county/etc is a moron. These places we live in are run by natioanl and local governments that use various forces to police us. These positions of power are very attractive to psycopaths, sociopaths, criminals and anyone who wants some kind of power over another human, or has an agenda so that means you can never have a true democracy. It is utterly impossible due to human nature. Of course, some are less under the boot than others.

The last couple of years should have opened everyones eyes to what kind of place they really live in. Even the die hards should have stopped thinking they live in a democratic nirvana of lovely goodness that is being run by truly caring and loving people with only the good of the nation, and its peoples, in their policy and rule making.
 
Appointing Aleksandr Dvornikov as overall Russian commander where the Russians didn't really have one before, following the ending of any operations in the north barring the firing of rockets at targets there and similar, seems key. It has meant or coincided with more men concentrating on taking the whole of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts (progress is unclear as of yet), plus the corridor between Donbass and Crimea, which might be a corridor or more. It should mean the end of appalling command failures like that queue of vehicles north of Kyiv and VDV mouldering away on garrison duties after operations failed, like Hostomel or Antonov airport. His characteristic tactic of shelling Syrian towns until they surrendered will, if repeated (and it seems somewhat like that with ill aimed missile attacks on towns) guarantee that Zelenskiy can rely on an endless flow of military supplies. However, a competent commander with definite authority seems to have helped the Russian invasion.

If this report is anyway accurate Russian commanders retain extraordinary fantasies about their and their forces limited skill set. They won't take Odessa or other large cities like Kharkiv. Mariupol could be approached from Crimea and Donbass, and is still not under full Russian control.
I wonder if them saying "We're going to take Mykolaiv and Odessa" might be a feint. An actual one, not actually assaulting it and suffering heavy losses and say it was a feint after retreating to save face and refocus efforts, but keeping it a stalemate and only do the occasional probing attack.

Mykolaiv is around the same size of Mariupol, and Odessa is over twice the size of it, as much as landlocking Ukraine will be a victory, doing so, even if successful, would likely take at least 3 or 4 more months of combat.
 
I wonder if them saying "We're going to take Mykolaiv and Odessa" might be a feint. An actual one, not actually assaulting it and suffering heavy losses and say it was a feint after retreating to save face and refocus efforts, but keeping it a stalemate and only do the occasional probing attack.

Mykolaiv is around the same size of Mariupol, and Odessa is over twice the size of it, as much as landlocking Ukraine will be a victory, doing so, even if successful, would likely take at least 3 or 4 more months of combat.
Odessa would have to be defended anyhow, although it is already well protected and serious efforts at contesting Kherson surely draw on forces there. It may well be RU misdirection as a serious effort would require the full scale effort Putin appears to want to avoid. Donbass can be reduced with the help of local militia. Perhaps there some idea of drawing away resources from places like Kharkiv which Russia perhaps wants as a big Russian speaking population center. Guesses based on hints and partial evidence, which might be confirmed in coming weeks
 
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I didn't think I'd see people in this country be this thirsty for war again. The ME/CFS-riddled LongCOVID-sufferers are all SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM MOTHERFUCKERS GOTTA START A WORLD WAR TO PREVENT A WORLD WAR LET'S GOOOOO.
I mean, it's gonna sound callous af, but Germany doesn't really have political ties to the Ukraine. We have no defense agreements with them, they're not part of the EU nor NATO. Sure, Russia might continue with the Baltic States or Poland or whomever after the Ukraine, but then the EU and NATO will obviously intervene. Why is it such a moral imperative to intervene now? "Best time to stop a world war is right now"? "Appeasement only helped Hitler" and so on. Who says that's true? The war will cost Russia dearly, even if they win the seperatist regions they'll be ousted from world trade for a long time and their economy is fucked. The EU and NATO will use the time to get their shit together to be prepared if Russia is actually stupid enough to actually attack a NATO/EU member.
Look, I disapprove of the russian invasion as much as the next guy, but if we see this as our moral obligation to go into full war-economy, where do we draw the line? What's the point of NATO and EU if any war of aggression is reason enough to intervene?
And what's the deal with the general moral absoluteness of the war? It's natural to be sceptical when people you've been told for the past 20 years were regular fellas like you are now suddenly all bloodlusty rapists and murderers, a marauding army of inhuman monsters committing massacres and mass rapes?
We know TPTB lie about atrocities to drum up support for war. But as usual we're not allowed to doubt anything, everything reported is fact.
I'm tired of this shit.
Ukraine is the US's Eastern European fuck boi. Granted we always told the fuck boi that we would come to their aid militarily if Russian mobsters started breaking his legs but... Eh? The powers that be can now nation build Ukraine unlike that Afghan fuck boi.
 
Apparently Russia finally admitted to some losses aboard the Moskva after their families started asking where they were.
Russia’s Defense Ministry said Friday in a terse announcement that one crew member died and 27 were left missing after a fire damaged the flagship Moskva cruiser last week, while 396 others were evacuated. The ministry did not offer any explanation for its earlier claims that the full crew got off the vessel before it sank.
So looks like it's a minimum of 28 dead.
 
Maybe there will be some shenanigans with possible breakthrough or another set of helicopters will try to evacuate defenders, but both of those seem unlikely to succeed.
You didn't mention total de-blockade and counter-offensive, the moment Selenski gets his 40 or however many heavy artillery units.

Vid semi-related — battle gopak. There were news that its creator is now where all Ukrainian Bayraktars went.
 
Apparently Russia finally admitted to some losses aboard the Moskva after their families started asking where they were.

So looks like it's a minimum of 28 dead.

Was there ever a proper head count possible of the Moskva sailors that were paraded the other day?. I read there were a hundred, but that might be bullshit. I would say that there is potential for 25-30% to have died from the combination of initial attack, the following explosion and there would have been some who were alive, but trapped, and went down with the ship. Poor fuckers.
 
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