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I really wish the Paypig Saga never happened. The Homeless Saga might have prevented the Incest Saga and the zero-content Jail Saga from happening.
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Couldn't help but think of some troll talking Chris into putting a jellyfish on his head like a hat (like steve-o from jackass)
Strange Wilderness
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They probably wanted to delude themselves in believing that Chris was just on the verge of becoming a functional adult and playing make believe with their adult son to get him to shower everyday and get a job would be reality hitting them in the face that Chris was hopeless. Its something I would do to get my five year old son to eat his veggies by pretending I'm Popeye and that eating his spinach will make him big and strong like me, not my twenty five year old son who refuses to get a job and eats nothing but McDonalds. That requires tossing him out on his ass and changing the locks.
Can you imagine Chris at the beach? He'd be doing Johnny Bravo poses in front of all the sweethearts and JERKS playing volleyball. His pale, flabby, gut hanging over his swim trunks before the sun gets to be too much and he'd retreat to under an umbrella to play his PSP.
Or better yet, tomgirl, trans Chris at the beach in a bikini.
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I remember some people specifically donated money to Chris to watch people rage at kiwifarms about it.
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You are right they deluded themselves. However, the Chandler's couldn't bear to get Chris out since they know he will be taken advantage of. Ever since Chris graduated and Bob put Chris into the tugboat, there was no way Chris was going to successfully live independently. As much as Bob loved Chris, I can't help but to assume that Bob had some resentment towards Chris, especially when he went tom girl. Imagine what Bob's letter to adult Chris would have been compared to the letters he wrote shortly after Chris was born and when he was a teen?
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Would corporal punishment have disciplined Chris? I generally despise the idea of physical punishment towards young kids, call me soft but I’ve always thought it to be a cruel form of punishment that often does more harm than good and makes kids think growing up with violence is okay. But in Chris’s case I think he would have benefited in some way? A spanking or two would certainly have helped anytime he was a spoiled brat. He may have grown up less egotistical
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It would have probably had a positive effect. Threatening to kick his ass out when he got suspended from PVCC and still not getting a fucking job (and not even having one four whole ass years out of high school by that point) and actually doing it would have done the trick.
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That's exactly what they did with Chris through most of his life, it was partly out of a much older attitude towards Mental and Learning disabilities, they where hoping that they could jump him into normality, first by schooling, then by trying to get him a job, and then a adult education, when that failed they just gave up (well Bob did, Barb wasn't much into Chris developing beyond what she needed).
Funny you should mention that school of child manipulation, I was thinking about the period of time that works with kid's mostly 2 - 6 but you also have to be able to communicate with the kid, Chris wasn't verbal at that time other than shreaks and grunts - I want to know how Bob tried to do that with Chris.
Hope Springs eternal, I think Bob recognised that Chris would never be "Normal" but he could be closer if He and Barb tried making him do normal things, but he was pushing a rock up hill with someone only trying to help occasionally. When it finally became clear that no matter what he did it wouldnt help him he tried to set him up with something so he wasn't pennyless, and I even think he tried to keep up some kind of hope till the very end or really close to it.
TBH I don't blame Bob for holding out hope, all parents do no matter how sucsessful they are that they can do better and live a good life - he could and should have gone about it better but he seemed to really care for Chris and tried harder than anyone else in his life.
Yes but only if it was applied correctly, I am like you of the school corporal punishment is the wrong way to go with Kids but Chris is a special case even as an adult it would have a effect - If Chris is to learn that something is a hard NO you have to make the punishment hard and immediate for it to take effect much like training a Dog, and if he tries to push the limits of that no you have to have a escalating seres of punishments that can always happen including a slap, or a smack when he was young.
Chris has never really faced the consequences for his actions until now and I would argue that the short period of time combined with his mental health problems allowed him to disconnect what he did to Barb and winding up in Jail for it, not in a I've been told I did this so I am now in time out way, but he knows (and even said in the past he knows its wrong) but was able to justify it to himself through his own twisted thought process that the punishment has had no effect on him.
Having said that I would say that his current situation in a mental health facility may have some effect on him. Even if it's a primitive fear reaction as he was told that it was some ghastly form of punishment for slow in the minds that he is far above as a person that was drilled into him from a young age, but even then he is going to find a way to find a way of lessening it in his mind but the shock of it might have a small effect on him going forward if he knows that such a place is a likely result for any actions going forward.
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Bob was literally the only good thing that ever happened to Chris and its not surprising that Chris started to spiral after his death.
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And Chris being the ungrateful SOB, took his own father for granted.
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Did Borb ever take Chris out on a camping trip?
Chris was once in Cub Scouts. Did he learn how to set up a tent?
Chris was once in Cub Scouts. Did he learn how to set up a tent?
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Hopefully he did because I can't see him realistically living anywhere other than a group home at this point if he's released, and outdoors is his only other option.
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Null tried to be a good force in Chris’ life, until Chris raped his mom and then lied about stealing money from her.
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My nephew just turned 2, and his parents constantly communicate with him and he's gradually learning as he goes along. I too wonder how Bob did with Chris; him following commands, but cannot respond because of being mute (ex: "pick up that ball on the left.")
I think Chris was kicked out before he could learn to do anything because he was acting up.
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genetically he would be senile like barb at 80 and i dont think anti-aging medicine will be perfected by 2061. it would likely be in the early stages of development and reserved for people who contributed something valuable to society. a crossdressing autistic rapist with dementia who raped his mom with a 90 degree angle bent penis would be low on the list of candidates
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Yes, lots of spankings and telling him what a hideous monster he was would have helped to make him more sensitive to the world around him.
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Corporal punishment is not the magic medicine, even for the most spoiled of brats; especially for Chris--someone with autism who on multiple occasions made it clear that they could not properly understand others feeling--I could see it being very damaging to his social skills, perhaps landing him in far more hot water than he would have ever been in until the later sagas.
Think about it this way; naïve little Chris gets spanked and hit by the people who raise him, the people who are supposed to teach him right from wrong. Especially with his inability to understand social queues, I could see this being detrimental, resulting in violent outbursts that didn't just boil down to childish screaming of curses and whatnot.
"Mommy and daddy hit me, so that must be normal! They did it when I was bad, so I should do it to people who are being bad too!" I could see that mentality being imprinted in his brain.
Maybe I'm wrong, but there's a reason that a lot of childhood abuse victims become abusers themselves--what you see as a child influences your outlook on life, and I think especially for someone who already has trouble understanding social norms, making them think that violent physical contact is normal wouldn't do them any favors.
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I doubt 1 grand from Dstecks, 1 grand for the Sonic Totem and probably 2-3 grand from medal purchases and small donations kept the Chandler's from living on the streets. Hell at least 40% of that money went to vidya, lego, and other gifts for Chris and Barb.
The only thing that would have prevented the Incest Saga would be if Chris never met the Idea Guys. After that it was a Fait Accompli
Dstecks.
Arguably sooner, probably Middle School when Bob was pimpin Chris' schoolmates to be his friends. After that, there was no way Chris was going to successfully live independently. His life was destined to be a Truman show nightmare where everyone and everything was there because it had to be there. Except Megan who ironically was his only real friend.
I also couldn't agree more about Bob holding resentment towards Chris. You can tell by 2009 how Bob has had enough of Chris' shit already. It's a good point not often talked about. How much does Bob resent Chris? Why? Where is it shown?
I think Bob is the most tragic figure in the entire Chris-Chan saga. Stuck looking after two retards, alienated from everyone, willing to talk to anyone, and spends most of his days locked away in his Greenhouse or Record room listening to music or watching I Love Lucy while dreaming of better days.
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I think it’s optimistic to think Chris never would have gone grey muff diving with Barb had he not interacted with the idea guys. Did they even have any part of the incesting?
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There are some snippets if one combs through the CWCki; most well known ones where Bob lays into Chris with the house tour videos and says the ending line "you stuck a knife in our backs and killed us." Had Bob called Chris a tard, I'm very certain Chris would've shut down because someone close to him said that word. Also when Bob walked in on Chris mass debating. Some low key ones (if Chris is to be believed) is that Bob flipped Chris the finger on some occasions.