Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Rome's rightful successor]

Alright im fully on Team Russia now. Those jewish Nazis are confusing me too much

Spoiler: Globohomo

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[AGPinochet]

@Sicklick cannot reply but you are either a troll, a delusional Ukebro overdosing on Copetynl or a fucking retard.

Ukraine is 8.6x bigger than Georgia (presumably including the separatist regions in Georgia) and Georgia at the time of the invasion had a massively inferior military to that of Russia

There is a country called Iraq, it is pretty flat, it took the US Military, the greatest in the world took 1 month, 1 week and 4 days to conquer the country against an infinitely inferior enemy with complete air dominance. Ukraine is bigger in area by 63,797 sq miles than Iraq (presumably with DNR/LPR/Crimea included)

Vaccum bombs and Thermobaric bombs are literally the same things

Also sauce on the chemical weapon drones, also unguided artillery kills people just fine

 

[Aidan]

I'm betting on an overdose of fake news. If you interpret what he's linked as fact then it's easy to figure out how his view came to be.

Say what you want about this invasion, but I'm glad it got the media to finally stop lying and start reporting the truth. Except for RT.

 

[Sicklick]

The young guy is retarded but it's honestly an expected level of retarded and you'll see it in any military. Still a funny clip.

@Sicklick
You're just coping. This is fanfic.

Azov and what army? What Ukrainian forces of any size are moving around Ukraine right now?

The tables haven't turned, Ukraine has done well to do what they've done and are doing. Stop expecting them to suddenly hulk out and push Russia back. The way some people (including journalists and Ukrainian leadership) talk, Russia has been on the back foot this whole time, yet somehow they're still there and still taking territory.

You're saying a lot of unsourced bullshit and while it may be sourced as far as you're concerned, ultimately it's sourced back to some tweet, Zelensky's words to his own people, or thin air.

Just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true.

If such a strategic move is impossible then explain Chernihiv and how that went. Everything went about as peacefully as a Ku Klux Klan rally in Detroit. Rule #1: never underestimate your enemy. If Russia actually accepted the fact that maybe just MAYBE there are some people out there trained better than them, they would be able to approach situations better, but I don't see that in this. It doesn't even apply here. The Russians are using all of their might to destroy them as quickly as possible seemingly because even though they have them locked down like fort Knox, help from the outside isn't that far away and advancements have been halted completely because of this. How do you explain that? Russia vs Ukraine in this situation is like some redneck wearing a Timberland boot trying to crush a cow ant in Texas.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Well, I do know that they are planning for a counter-move pretty soon, they just need enough to pull it off and so on. Zelensky has clearly stated this. The fact that this has been an obstacle for Russia speaks volumes. That is literally Azov territory. You do not mess with Azov territory, especially when their buddies are gonna appear pretty soon. Azov has been largely successful at holding up and delaying the invasion and the build-up of more troops significantly, giving the rest of the country time and saving so many lives in the process. I remember the war Russia had with Georgia in 2008. It lasted 5 days. FIVE FUCKING DAYS. In the Middle East you had the 6 day war. Historically, an underfunded state is never going to be victorious ESPECIALLY like a scenario like this. In theory, Russia should've steamrolled Ukraine in one day because it's flat plane, it's not mountainous like Afghanistan. But they haven't. That tells you how good fighters Ukraine is even with all of those military targets being destroyed. There was fighting and Russian losses on day one.

In other words, these people can make a war that should've lasted a day or two much longer on a country the size of Russia. Now just imagine how fucked Russia is going to be that they have the tables turned. The difference is Russia doesn't have all of its fancy high tech guided artillery anymore. There's a bunch of other shit they have a lot less of this time too. The defenders in Mariupol survived an arsenal of all types of munitions and missiles (including hypersonic missiles, cluster bombs, vacuum bombs and thermobaric bombs), bullets, chemical agents (they've used phosphorus munitions and modified drones that spray deadly chemical agents), shattered glass, rubble, debris, and everything else, the only way you can stop these people now is through a nuke.

If such a strategic move is impossible then explain Chernihiv and how that went. Everything went about as peacefully as a Ku Klux Klan rally in Detroit. Rule #1: never underestimate your enemy. If Russia actually accepted the fact that maybe just MAYBE there are some people out there trained better than them, they would be able to approach situations better, but I don't see that in this. It doesn't even apply here. The Russians are using all of their might to destroy them as quickly as possible seemingly because even though they have them locked down like fort Knox, help from the outside isn't that far away and advancements have been halted completely because of this. How do you explain that? Russia vs Ukraine in this situation is like some redneck wearing a Timberland boot trying to crush a cow ant in Texas.

АЗОВ ПРОСИТ МИРА! Товарищи, что происходит? Тут нацист Сергей Волына, загнанный в подземелья Азовстали, обращается к мировым лидерам, дипломатам и руководству Украины с просьбой вытащить остатки Азова из Мариуполя. В интервью Гончаренко он говорит, что ситуация критическая и военным путём они ничего решить уже не успеют и что вообще мир - лучше войны. Наслаждайтесь! Ой, а чё это, а? а? а? Ципсопидоры ИТТ, ваши оправдания?

Google translate, someone please clean this up if you can:

AZOV ASKS FOR PEACE! Comrades, what's going on? Here the Nazi Sergei Volyn, driven into the dungeons of Azovstal, appeals to world leaders, diplomats and the leadership of Ukraine with a request to pull the remnants of Azov out of Mariupol. In an interview with Goncharenko, he says that the situation is critical and they will not have time to solve anything by military means, and that in general peace is better than war. Enjoy! Oh, what is this, huh? a? a? Tsipsopidory ITT, your excuses?

In other words @Sicklick stop eating the bullshit sandwich.

 

[Aidan]

If such a strategic move is impossible then explain Chernihiv and how that went. Everything went about as peacefully as a Ku Klux Klan rally in Detroit. Rule #1: never underestimate your enemy. If Russia actually accepted the fact that maybe just MAYBE there are some people out there trained better than them, they would be able to approach situations better, but I don't see that in this. It doesn't even apply here. The Russians are using all of their might to destroy them as quickly as possible seemingly because even though they have them locked down like fort Knox, help from the outside isn't that far away and advancements have been halted completely because of this. How do you explain that?

You're the one underestimating Russia, the military who reportedly should have ran out of supplies thrice over by now.

Everything in your post is nonsense. Who said Russia thinks people aren't trained better than they are? Don't ignore this question, who said that?
Russia is not using all of their might. What help isn't far away? Why is help coming after Russia has effectively secured over 99% of the city?

Whatever you're reading, it's not good. Apply common sense to what you're saying and don't ignore critical questions like "What Ukrainian forces are moving around Ukraine right now?"
The answer is you don't know but we can be quite confident there isn't a sizable force moving or footage would be out there along with Russian sources claiming as much.

 

[BiggerChungus]

bro, come on lmao

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One of them looks like he really could be a Zalensky child soldier. Either way, this is supposedly the military that's BTFOing Russia left and right.

Russia is not using all of their might.

If anything Russia's really been holding back. Even western sources have noted that. Some say it's incompetence, others say it's to avoid collateral, but regardless, they're definitely pulling punches.

There is a country called Iraq, it is pretty flat, it took the US Military, the greatest in the world took 1 month, 1 week and 4 days to conquer the country against an infinitely inferior enemy with complete air dominance.

Don't forget it also involved an entire coalition of other major powers both times.

 

[Vince McMahon]

One of them looks like he really could be a Zalensky child soldier. Either way, this is supposedly the military that's BTFOing Russia left and right.

If anything Russia's really been holding back. Even western sources have noted that. Some say it's incompetence, others say it's to avoid collateral, but regardless, they're definitely pulling punches.

Don't forget it also involved an entire coalition of other major powers both times.

So which is it? Is it incompetence or "pulling" punches? You can't have both.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

"What Ukrainian forces are moving around Ukraine right now?"

Easy, the Ghost of Kyvy is coming to save them, any minute now... totally, also in two more weeksᵀᴹ Ukraine will deploy its Spartan-II Super soldiers and will totally launch a counter invasion on Russia and fuck Putin's mom. Also the avengers are coming or some shit... trust me.... also also please keep the aid coming otherwise the ruskies will win, even tho they are totes getting slaughtered left and right by the Ghost of Kiev...

You're the one underestimating Russia, the military who reportedly should have ran out of supplies thrice over by now.

Ah let me explain, you see Russians are Orcs and they have this psychich energy, so as long as they think they have ammo their guns will continue to shoot, and as long as they think their planes can fly, their planes will fly... trust me I'm a guy n Kiwi Farms

 

[BiggerChungus]

So which is it? Is it incompetence or "pulling" punches? You can't have both.

You tell me. It's mainly pro-Ukes saying incompetence and pro-Russkies saying avoiding collateral, but either way Russia's not deploying or acting in full force.

 

[Vince McMahon]

You tell me. It's mainly pro-Ukes saying incompetence and pro-Russkies saying avoiding collateral.

Considering Mariupol, Kharkiv and other cities, including the day before yesterday when a Russian rocket de-Nazified a toddler, I don't think Russia is pulling any punches at all.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Considering Mariupol, Kharkiv and other cities, including the day before yesterday when a Russian rocket de-Nazified a toddler, I don't think Russia is pulling any punches at all.

Rockets aren't a sign of a full-scale effort. Rockets have been getting lobbed in the Middle East for decades and Ukraine was tossing rockets into separatist regions for several years.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Rockets aren't a sign of a full-scale effort. Rockets have been getting lobbed in the Middle East for decades and Ukraine was tossing rockets into separatist regions for several years.

Fine, do you consider Mariupol and Kharkiv's extensive bombing campaign as "pulling punches"?

 

[Lichen Bark]

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Diplomacy of the highest echelon. Shit talking on international level.
Before the war I would have said that it's unprofessional. But seeing that we actually live in a clown world, I do not mind. Pls more.

This seems promising! "zelensky is a fucking idiot, we have no intention of using tac nukes." Phew.
This thread needs a "Nuclear war likelihood indicator" that we can check. A weekly poll that starts again each Sunday to get a feel for how close/far we are from it.

I implore anyone who honestly thinks nuclear war "wouldn't be that bad" to please, for the good of humanity, stick a fork in your nearest powered electrical outlet.

May I suggest instead of a fork, take two paperclips, unfold them both, and hold one in each hand. Then jam them into each side of the outlet at the same time.

 

[White_N]

The Azovs are about to get the moscow theater experience when the Russians capture the above ground in Azovstal.

Azov uses civilian vehicles to stage ambushes, wears civilian clothing and uses civilians leaving the city as cover, and now they have their fucking children with them in their bunker.

As far as I’m concerned most civilian casualties in Mariupol, and especially those children, can be laid at the feet of Azov.

You know, we all hear false flag this and false flag that, but seeing civilians in the basements of Azovstal makes me believe this is the one. There is absolutely no reason for them to be there. Russian forces have provided humanitarian corridors multiple times in Mariupol already. And then there was the last one: "Surrender or die," which, as we can see, was ignored. Ukrainian propaganda about the shelling of humanitarian corridors by the Russians really fucked these people. I don't know how exactly things will turn out for the civilians that are stuck in Azovstal, but I'm expecting some of them will not survive this siege, and it's all going to be blamed on the bloodthirsty Russians.

Those who have gone through military training understand. It really cannot be put into words. You become the dumbest mother fucker on the planet when you are surrounded by three senior NCOs yelling at you to do something right. It could be something as simple as tying your boots, and in that moment you forget entirely how to do it.

The panic of being shouted at by a drill sergeant is more effective than stun grenades.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Fine, do you consider Mariupol and Kharkiv's extensive bombing campaign as "pulling punches"?

What do you consider extensive? Far as I've seen Russia's been trying to avoid hitting civilian targets, though it's difficult given Ukraine keeps deliberately placing military targets next to or inside of civilian targets. A more focused and cohesive bombing to me implies pulling punches, if anything.

 

[Vince McMahon]

What do you consider extensive? Far as I've seen Russia's been trying to avoid hitting civilian targets, though it's difficult given Ukraine keeps deliberately placing military targets next to or inside of civilian targets. A more focused and cohesive bombing to me implies pulling punches, if anything.

Right, I forget which thread I'm in. Do carry on.

 

[mindlessobserver]

woosh goes the goal posts. we aren't talking moral or immoral here. You were arguing about escalation, explained simple enough for you to understand it, and boom you change it to some moral issue.

Russia invaded on all fronts, is shelling urban centers indiscriminately and is trying to overthrow the Ukrainian government. The only way this escalates more is if someone uses nukes.

The wheeping and wailing about NATO arming Ukraine is silly. Great Powers have ALWAYS armed their proxies when they get into fights with their enemies. Russia armed the North Vietnamese and the North Koreans. The US armed the Afghans and now the Ukrainians.

If Russia didn't seriously consider this happening well that is their own damn fault. It's happened every time Russia has invaded a western client state for the last 400 years. If putin thought this time would be different then he's an imbecile.

 

[White_N]

Right, I forget which thread I'm in. Do carry on.

You didn't make an argument that refutes what he said, my dude.

Or do you really want to say that Ukrainian forces don't use civilian buildings like schools and living houses? There's enough footage and interviews with civilians about it that has been posted already.

 

[Farmer Y]

Oil Fires in the Bryansk Russia​

It is just spontaneous combustion comrade.