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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Poland is autistically willing to go bankrupt paying people for housing Ukrainian refugees in their homes/apartments that would otherwise be for rent and also pays it's social security money to Ukrainians in Poland, long term it's going to become a disaster unless most of the refugees either go home or join the workforce.
I know about Poland and I wasn't talking about Poland. Pretty sure most of the people you have will join the workforce since there will be massive pressure from already present Ukrainians. And if not - you have our blessing to kick the parasites back. Pretty sure your bennies will encourage them to join the workforce, as it's not enough to live comfortably on them.

All shit choices, some risk staying, they all likely regret it in the end as once the horde arrives you don't get to evacuate or do fucking anything on your terms anymore.
You don't think that I genuinely wrote the message you're quoting, with me having to settle as a refugee in a Western country myself?
 
Nato doesn't give a fuck about controlling Russia, which is basically an impossible goal.
Putin was a globogoblin already, fuck knows what made him lose his shit and star a war for fuck knows what.
At the very best the globohomos can hope to install a moderately pro western shill who'll still have to be publicly loudmouthed pro Russian to appease the oligarchs.
I keep remembering that The Economist's 2019 cover had the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse depicted on it.

In order: Disease, War, Starvation and Death.

Given current events, I'm always keenly reminded of it and also of how little we still know of how the world is run.
 
Poland is autistically willing to go bankrupt paying people for housing Ukrainian refugees in their homes/apartments that would otherwise be for rent and also pays it's social security money to Ukrainians in Poland, long term it's going to become a disaster unless most of the refugees either go home or join the workforce.
they will go to germany the moment they are allowed to join the workforce.
 
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I know about Poland and I wasn't talking about Poland. Pretty sure most of the people you have will join the workforce since there will be massive pressure from already present Ukrainians. And if not - you have our blessing to kick the parasites back. Pretty sure your bennies will encourage them to join the workforce, as it's not enough to live comfortably on them.


You don't think that I genuinely wrote the message you're quoting, with me having to settle as a refugee in a Western country myself?
Oh I'm pretty sure Poland is an exception to most rules in this shitstorm, they already had a population of 500k-1mil Ukrainian economic migrants and remember the russian boot well enough to want to keep it as far away as possible especially while sharing the border with russia's bitch, belarus and kaliningrad.

Every country to the west is still suffering from it's "You can come here, refugees welcome" 2015 messiah complex hangover and it's pretty clear that "Refugees Welcome" is no longer a thing with them and they just wish for a way to go back to business as usual as if nothing happened.

I know it's sarcasm when you say it, but plenty of people who would 100% no irony or sarcasm say that and it's a preemptive response to those should they read it.
 
they will go to germany the moment they are allowed to join the workforce.
Well, they can, actually. As soon as Ukrainians get temporary protection, they are allowed to join the workforce in the country that took them in.

pretty clear that "Refugees Welcome" is no longer a thing with them
I don't know. Would they fast-track Ukies through autism central that is asylum procedures, if they weren't welcome? Not to mention to give a clear expectation that they can't stay there for more than 3 years on that status - more than enough for people who want to stay to integrate and or update their status.
 
Stop larping like you even have an ideology. You want to see the world burn because you have no dick. It doesn’t take a rocket psychologist to figure out.
Nah the dick thing merely meant i directed my attentions and search for meaning elsewhere, the reason i want shit to burn is because of what i found during that search. So half true at best.
 
I said it before but this shit really reeks of putin having based his entire grand strategy with regards to the west on an absolute certainty (probably due to uncritically swallowing whatever "expert on the west" said things he liked the sound of most) that the loudest social media retards on twitter/youtube/facebook/whatever were infact fully and completely representative of the true populist mass sentiments of the left and right wing in the west.
I think, this war happenned, because Putin got that faggy slap on the wrist back in the 2014. Ukraine was PISSED as hell when Russia cut DNR, LNR and Crimea off it's territory, but Europe said them to suck it up, because they were afraid Ukraine's reaction would start a war.
When a senile tyrant pulling out some retarded stunts the least normal thing you can do is play along. Now he sees himself as some giga-chad, because the last time it turned out just fine (because common Russians were most affected, not him and his lap fags). So, Europe still got the war they were afraid of, while Ukraine is turning into ruins.
 
I think, this war happenned, because Putin got that faggy slap on the wrist back in the 2014. Ukraine was PISSED as hell when Russia cut DNR, LNR and Crimea off it's territory, but Europe said them to suck it up, because they were afraid Ukraine's reaction would start a war.
When a senile tyrant pulling out some retarded stunts the least normal thing you can do is play along. Now he sees himself as some giga-chad, because the last time it turned out just fine (because common Russians were most affected, not him and his lap fags). So, Europe still got the war they were afraid of, while Ukraine is turning into ruins.
I think it goes well beyond 2014. Putin likes changing the borders here and there. Doesn't matter why anymore unless it's independent of Putin because he's probably not going to be around long enough to keep doing it consequentially and the Rubicon has been crossed as is regarding Ukraine.
If it's independent of Putin then I'm all ears.

No one really cared until it hit uncomfortably close to home.
 
I think it goes well beyond 2014. Putin likes changing the borders here and there.
Agree. It isn't visible to anyone outsside of Russia, but he's using this to create noise and do something shady behind (like changing constitution and renew his time as a president). It's also used to inflate in the news to bust up morale of population without doing something, well, useful.

Many liberal Russians did and do care. Call me a deinty flower, but I see many talented people and country rich in resourses and history. It's disheartening to see politicians killing any potential to grow for quick cash and cheap PR stunts like wars.
 
I think it goes well beyond 2014. Putin likes changing the borders here and there. Doesn't matter why anymore unless it's independent of Putin because he's probably not going to be around long enough to keep doing it consequentially and the Rubicon has been crossed as is regarding Ukraine.
If it's independent of Putin then I'm all ears.

No one really cared until it hit uncomfortably close to home.
Oh of course it does go beyond 2014 or 2008 or even Putin himself. Russia in the grand scheme of things is a weird country. It's huge but not very livable, rich in resources yet unlike most countries rich in resources, it's poor as dirt by comparison, it's not inhabited by some retarded ultra religious sand people, plenty of intelligent, educated, hard working folk there yet it's all wasted.

Russia could be a major global player, possibly as big if not bigger than China is right now, when USSR collapsed, russia and China were similar in many economic ways, russia had an upper hand, powerful industrial base, natural resources, military might everyone was terrified of, and it was completely squandered, sold to oligarchs for loyalty and favors, given away for worthless bragging rights Yachts.

If anything, russia should be a big, fat red flag to the entire world, especially America about what happens when you allow letter agencies have too much power, if there ever was anyone who could lift russia up he got disappeared by KGB desperately grasping to it's position of power and from there "intelligence" retards started running an entire country like they run glow ops, buy this guy, threaten that guy, poison this politician, threaten here and there, count the money. Buy/Threaten/Assassinate/Be Corrupt became russia's default M.O because for it's "president" and elite, it was all they knew how to do.

Whoever is going to replace putin is very likely to come from the same bunch he came from, there are no real, independent people who will be able to step into his shoes and keep russia a thing and Navalny is a meme, if you replaced putin with someone like any western politician, the country would balkanize as various interest groups got a whiff of weakness and used it, hell, China would probably use the opportunity to seize a lot of mostly empty land rich in resources.

Whether they win or lose, russia is kind of fucked, they squandered almost 3 decades they could have used to become a world power that could do the same thing NATO does and China is trying to do, conquer economically with a background of mighty military. But they can't, Eastern Ukraine was poor but it'll only become poorer now, even if russia wins because russia can't rebuild or redevelop jack shit and people will whisper, they'll tag the walls, no one will be happier, dissatisfaction will grow and it'll blow up eventually, russia can only rally the people through war so long.

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Soon after the oil depot was reported to have been burning there were air raid alerts all over Ukraine, air raid alerts all over Ukraine tend to coincide with such events. Think of that what you will.
Edit 2: Personally I kinda think it's "We're expecting retaliatory strikes" but I could be reading too much into the 'coincidences' because, how the fuck could Ukraine even stage such shit over the front lines and enemy borders if it is UA op? How fucking incompetent is russia?
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Soon after the oil depot was reported to have been burning there were air raid alerts all over Ukraine, air raid alerts all over Ukraine tend to coincide with such events. Think of that what you will.
Edit 2: Personally I kinda think it's "We're expecting retaliatory strikes" but I could be reading too much into the 'coincidences' because, how the fuck could Ukraine even stage such shit over the front lines and enemy borders if it is UA op? How fucking incompetent is russia?
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It seems they do have some decent SPECOPS/Spetnatz unit(s) about who seem to keep doing this. We already saw them take out another fuel dump/oil refinery out in Russian territory and they seem to have been emboldened by the rather lacklustre internal defences of the Russians to launch a much larger attack. It would certainly represent the largest Ukranian counter attack inside Russian territory to date.

The Media has asked Kyiv for several comments on this kind of operation but Zelensky has just sort of shrugged at it. Because no government comments on their special forces deployments.
 
It seems they do have some decent SPECOPS/Spetnatz unit(s) about who seem to keep doing this. We already saw them take out another fuel dump/oil refinery out in Russian territory and they seem to have been emboldened by the rather lacklustre internal defences of the Russians to launch a much larger attack. It would certainly represent the largest Ukranian counter attack inside Russian territory to date.

The Media has asked Kyiv for several comments on this kind of operation but Zelensky has just sort of shrugged at it. Because no government comments on their special forces deployments.
It makes me suspect that some of the super wild rumours I've heard, of the SAS operating in theatre for the last couple of months, might actually be true. I'm not sure I like the implications.

Russians must have stuck a helicopter pilot in this Su34 by mistake as you can see an attempt to auto rotate.
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Situation in the north doesn't look that well for the UA army. It's actually not that difficult to get the encirclement done in this region. They just need to cut off the few main roads and the Ukrainian positions near the Donbabwe front would be in danger of running out of supply.

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How fucking incompetent is russia?
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It makes me suspect that some of the super wild rumours I've heard, of the SAS operating in theatre for the last couple of months, might actually be true. I'm not sure I like the implications.
SAS are almost certainly in country, providing training, and probably operational support like planning and what not. I'd be hugely surprised if they're actually operating in country though because that seems like an insanely risky move if they get caught vs the reward of whatever they might accomplish instead of just helping Ukie SOF pull shit off.
 
Every country to the west is still suffering from it's "You can come here, refugees welcome" 2015 messiah complex hangover and it's pretty clear that "Refugees Welcome" is no longer a thing with them and they just wish for a way to go back to business as usual as if nothing happened.
no, quite the opposite actually. there's virtually zero anti refugee sentiment here, big contrast to 2015, for two big reasons
1) ukrainians are seen as decent people, big difference to the various kinds of subhuman that came in 2015
2) ukrainians have a valid reason to flee their country, while most of the 2015 niggers are just economic migrants looking for gibs
 
no, quite the opposite actually. there's virtually zero anti refugee sentiment here, big contrast to 2015, for two big reasons
1) ukrainians are seen as decent people, big difference to the various kinds of subhuman that came in 2015
2) ukrainians have a valid reason to flee their country, while most of the 2015 niggers are just economic migrants looking for gibs
I'd trade 100,000 Ukrainians for every lightbulb head Somali in my country and that isn't a rare sentiment. The N*vorussians seem to love them, maybe they can relocate there and we can get the Ukrainians in exchange.

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T90M models have been spotted near Kharkiv. Not sure if these be a game changer. Apparently they are only in use by the Rossguards. It would be nice to see some red shirts be torn to gibs. Someone I spoke with speculated they might give crews thermite or some type of explosive to scuttle them if they have to abandon them to deny such an interesting prize.
 
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