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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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I think this is the 6th time the Missouri Attorney General has sued the Biden Admin.
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TBF neither did I.
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These social media platforms shouldn't have that power in the first place. Yet none of them said anything when they literally used it to their advantage for the 2020 election.
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How very true. Should Joey not be able to continue, Kamala will be no improvement. She just wants to be Vice-President, with no interest in actually doing the job. If it wasn't for the perks and trappings of the office, Kamala would be very happy to just mail it in. She doesn't take the job seriously. Joey tries but can no longer do it, been obvious to me since day one.
https://nypost.com/2022/04/24/bidens-decline-is-obvious-to-everyone-but-the-press/
https://nypost.com/2022/04/24/bidens-decline-is-obvious-to-everyone-but-the-press/
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I know I’m late, but think of it like this. You not only get to rub it in when the dam breaks, you also get to tell them “If only you just accepted it earlier, it wouldn’t hurt so much right now.“, which is a second, equally rich salt flow.
They‘re serving you two, potentially three helpings for the price of one. Just be patient.
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You get to reply to his tweets now. That protection thing he's had on is off
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The guy is the reason why we need asylums back or bring back the heart attack gun
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It'd be pretty funny if Musk would ban Brandon off of Twitter, even if for a day (((by mistake)))
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That would only work if Musk moved the twitter HQ to Florida. Do you think Trump would want to play hopscotch over human shit and drug needles walking to the Twitter HQ in SF? Even for an IRL shitpost of such glorious magnitude?
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A previous VP said the vice presidency wasn't worth a bucket of warm spit. (Warm piss in some versions of the tale.) We should go back to that era, and maybe give the VP a warm, full bucket upon their inauguration to remind them how much power they really have. Are supposed to have. I visited a government office recently and her portrait was on the wall next to Joe, where the Secretary was supposed to be. I've never seen that before.
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I'd argue both cases here are bad. A VP can be very useful. For example, as much as everyone, rightfully, hates Pence he was used masterfully as the straightman to Trump's bull in a china shop. Trump would rile things up, make outrageous demands, and in general be Trump... then Pence would slip in and offer a 'compromise'. "Work with me, if I can just get you to concede a few small things I can mollify him" and then he'd offer them... exactly what Trump was after in the first place.
That is using the VP as more than a bucket of spit, but also not near-deifying them like the democrats are trying to do with Kamala.
In more general terms, a VP with complimenting skills to the President can be very useful. Serving to overcome some of the President's weaknesses or otherwise exploit resources the President for whatever reason cannot do so, or do so as well. Additionally, the VP can act as president's stand in for deals with powers both foreign and domestic while the President focuses their attention on more pressing matters. A crisis doesn't mean every other problem gets put on hold, and a VP well used can help keep things running smoothly if a President has to focus on one.
The problem to all this is that most VPs are not picked for complimenting skills but instead to tick a few boxes with a section of the electorate that the President was particularly weak in. And absolutely nothing else. This is how we got Biden as a VP.
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So, getting Biden into office required the business/tech sector to fall in line, along with the DNC, the progressives, the media, etc. So letting Twitter slip through their fingers is a huge sign of weakness, right? It means they've left tech to fend for themselves, and with the Disney scandal, I think more companies are looking at Democrats and thinking they are causing them more problems than they're worth. CNN+ tanking. Just seems like a lot of their power is crumbling because they had to do too much blood-letting to get Biden over the line. @Gehenna, would love your thoughts on how Twitter being in private hands breaks up the factions.
I'd love to see him come back, post ONE meme, and then delete the app from his phone. The libs will all know he's back and will have to check his profile every day to see if he's updated! Rent-free.
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You're arguing that a VP can be a good advisor or public face, which I don't doubt. And they can do state functions if the President is sundowning. But those aren't inherent in the office, they're simply examples of the President exploiting the person of the VP in one way or another. Some people want to be used and exploited for another person's policy goals and personal ambition, but I can see how others (like Garner) would rankle under such conditions.
Constitutionally the office has, I think, two powers: breaking ties in the Senate and voting with the Cabinet to declare the President unfit to discharge his duties. (And maybe refusing to certify Presidential elections, but we all know how that turned out.) They probably let them decorate the residence at the Naval Observatory. But outside whatever arrangements may exist in the EOP, the VP has no authority over or within Federal agencies. They are supposed to be invisible to the administrative state.
But this VP had absurd delusions about "a Harris administration with President Biden." While those delusions were apparently shattered--maybe somebody handed her the bucket--I was still surprised to see her portrait next to Joe in a DOD office. They're normally very good about their chain of command portraits.
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A point of order, twitter is not yet actually lost. The talks could break down or be a smokescreen for another go at fucking over Musk. Still, if we operate on the idea that it is lost...
1: It is definitive proof for anyone who needed it that the funding is -dry-. While I have been proposing it for a while and was able to point to small things that indicated it there has been a lack of solid and irrefutable proof. This would be just that. There is no way in hell that the many money'd interests bankrolling the Democrats would ever have let Musk buy up twitter unless they had no other choice.
2: As to the effects from it... well. The Progs are going to lose an absolutely massive amount of power. They enjoy a lot of groundswell support which twitter provides them by far the easiest method of utilizing. While I suspect a twitter-controlled Musk won't do anything like ban them, the simple fact it would now apply the rules equally means that the rather firey rhetoric these groups use will land them in hot water rather quickly. It severely limits how far they can go rhetorically and since the entire premise of their being is hyperbole and incitement....
Of course, the other factions don't fair much better. This is unseating the most allied member of BigTech as well as utterly depriving a slew of massive requirement for BigTech as a whole to function. Twitter isn't just social media. Its real-time organization and, most importantly, -where- the data harvesting is used to shift public opinion. Facebook has always been too messy to be effective, but twitter was where they could curate all the 'best' views in microscopic detail. Gradually moving a ton of opinions closer to the 'right' opinion through curated search results, curated feeds, and AI controlled algorithms to make sure that what is curated to the viewer is always just one step closer tot he intended goal. It is a massive carrot on a stick that inputted the harvested data from places like Google and Facebook as well as twitter itself to achieve a political ends. It is a massive part of -why- BigTech values twitter so much.
And finally, the Establishment... no one loses as much as the Establishment. Yes, that is in a field where one side is now void of a massive chunk of power and the other just had their central pillar gutted. For the former, they can dial down the rheotric and make more in person rallies. For the latter, they can decentralize their efforts to something much les efficient but still functioning.
The Establishment just fucking loses.
Their power is drawn from a fragile balance of power where they keep in check with what their core base wants to ensure they do not piss them off while also trying to just skirt the line of what the American populace will accept. They have been leaning further and further away from the general populace due to twitter but... losing it is somehow worse. Without the ability to guide the public view because of the losses of BigTech and with the Progs no longer able to rile the base as effectively, the Establishment will now be in a situation of being blinded. They already are out of touch with one half of the balancing equation, now lost their ability to reliably hear the other half, and have lost their ability to actively shape the field all in one fell swoop.
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This is the main reason that I've been concerned they'll stop at nothing to prevent this or to neuter it. Twitter is more than just the US governments pet, even though that's their primary master. It's been used to force regime change multiple times in the middle east and governments and glowies around the world use it for their purposes, not just the US glowbots. I feel like we haven't seen the end of this, just some of the sweet appetizing salt from the opening salvos.
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"No one should have the sort of power that we gladly wielded up until just a moment ago!!"
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by no one, they mean anyone not them or that they approve of
they're hypocrites, you see
they are really fucking retarded
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Even the wallets of George Soros and Larry Fink have their limits. It's a good thing.
And I think you're right. I think they are reaching a point where they can't simply throw money at the problem -- they have to plan wisely.
As much as we deride it and sneer at it, Twitter has a huge digital footprint. And now it's slipped from the Left's hands.
It'll be interesting to see how hard Musk hauls it back to center, or what else he does. But like you said, regardless, the Establishment still loses because they can no longer command their minions in Twitter to suppress things.
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Man, they're probably burning the shit out of some documents and emails and slack channels over at Twitter as we speak. The last thing they want is the new owners to show up, dig up literal emails from the DNC or some insane transsexual groomer talking about how they're organizing pedophilia to be ignored by the algorithm or something, and god forbid: release them. Or worse, fire the lefty tech moles that will no doubt be planning on being "the resistance" over the next few years and blocking any improvements Musk wants to do out of spite or trying to keep everything lefty-biased.
Pro tip for Musk: Fire everyone with dyed hair, facial piercings, or pronouns in their bio / email signature.
Remember, we literally have seen the Twitter Moderator's UI. They absolutely 100% have buttons to flag accounts as shadowbanned and reply banned, as well as reply boosted. It wouldn't surprise me at all that Musk gets in and finds a few very large payments from Correct The Record or whatnot to get a bunch of botnet accounts artificially boosted in the replies to Trump. Covered this in a few of the old Trump threads, but you could literally see the bots replying within ~1-5 seconds with dozens of shitty lefty agitprop image macros, all designed to suppress discussion and drive supporters away from engaging with Trump (and thus, finding other supporters et all).
Pro tip for Musk: Fire everyone with dyed hair, facial piercings, or pronouns in their bio / email signature.
Remember, we literally have seen the Twitter Moderator's UI. They absolutely 100% have buttons to flag accounts as shadowbanned and reply banned, as well as reply boosted. It wouldn't surprise me at all that Musk gets in and finds a few very large payments from Correct The Record or whatnot to get a bunch of botnet accounts artificially boosted in the replies to Trump. Covered this in a few of the old Trump threads, but you could literally see the bots replying within ~1-5 seconds with dozens of shitty lefty agitprop image macros, all designed to suppress discussion and drive supporters away from engaging with Trump (and thus, finding other supporters et all).
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