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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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The problem with using AA guns against enemy vehicles is they burn through ammo really quickly, and armored vehicles tend to move in larger groups than do airborne targets. An AA gun is also NOT made to withstand a hit by any round by pretty much anything higher than a .50cal/12.7mm (if even).
You'd be surprised. They tend to have some fairly substantial (for rear line that is) protection as a result of their primarily stationary nature and obvious priority targeting by both aircraft and artillery, at least for those built and designed on tank hulls. Not as much as a tank, but enough to keep the vehicle intact when shrapnel comes flying. The Sergeant York was intended to stick a new turret on the M48 hull, and that's capable of withstanding a lot more than just machine guns.

The Finns have Marksman, which is an AA turret on top of a Leopard 2 hull:
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Before you ask, the turret itself is immune to Russian 14.5mm rounds and 155mm airbursts. The electronics will be gone, but the tank and crew will be fine.

And an actual article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-pilots-trained-fly-migs-223700928.html
Turns out MiG pilots have to unlearn then relearn everything they know about flying in order to use NATO planes. The Poles have tried and their pilots can't even make the switch from MiG-29 to F-16 as a result of how different everything is inside the cockpit.
 
You'd be surprised. They tend to have some fairly substantial (for rear line that is) protection as a result of their primarily stationary nature and obvious priority targeting by both aircraft and artillery, at least for those built and designed on tank hulls. Not as much as a tank, but enough to keep the vehicle intact when shrapnel comes flying. The Sergeant York was intended to stick a new turret on the M48 hull, and that's capable of withstanding a lot more than just machine guns.

The Finns have Marksman, which is an AA turret on top of a Leopard 2 hull: View attachment 3219363
Before you ask, the turret itself is immune to Russian 14.5mm rounds and 155mm airbursts. The electronics will be gone, but the tank and crew will be fine.

And an actual article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-pilots-trained-fly-migs-223700928.html
Turns out MiG pilots have to unlearn then relearn everything they know about flying in order to use NATO planes. The Poles have tried and their pilots can't even make the switch from MiG-29 to F-16 as a result of how different everything is inside the cockpit.
Part of that is a very basic difference between a Soviet and Western Cockpit. The Attitude Indicator.

When you think of a cockpit this is the big guage in the middle. The top half is blue the botton brown or green. There is a little representation of the plane in the middle. It shows your planes attitude relative to the ground. In Western aircraft the plane stays fixed. And the horizon behind it moves. So you will see more/less or tilting levels of blue. Soviet guages work the opposite. The horizon indicator is fixed and the little plane moves.

Now these are both valid ways of presenting the same data. BUT because it is such a core information system. Integral to the language of flying that a pilot learns, it is extremely difficult for a trained pilot to go from one to the other. A famous example was after the fall of the Soviet Union Aeroflot bought a bunch of airbus A320's to replace their aging ex soviet fleet. They soon had a tragic crash because unless they were really really focused and concentrating, pilots would misread the attitude guage. Just due to ingrained habit and training. It's a subtle difference and it really fucks up a pilots ability to fly.
 
Doggo Cartrdige helps finding explosives , unexploded ordinance and mines


A little dog has become one of the heroes of the ongoing war in Ukraine.

Patron, which means “bullet,” “cartridge” or “ammo” in Ukrainian, is a 2-year-old Jack Russell terrier pup. He is trained as a bomb-sniffing dog for the State Emergency Service of Ukraine, currently serving in the Chernihiv region in northern Ukraine.

Jack Russells are great bomb-sniffing dogs because they have an acute sense of smell from their years of being bred as hunting dogs. As small dogs, they can get into tight areas and their body weight doesn’t set off land mines. (Rats have also been similarly used in former combat zones.)

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Ukraine post office announced that doggo will be honored with his own postage stamp coming up soon

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Thanks to kinks in the supply chain, Raytheon Technologies cannot quickly make more Stinger shoulder-fired surface-air systems that have been pouring into Ukraine to fight Russia, the company’s CEO said in an earnings call Tuesday morning.

“We're currently producing Stingers for an international customer,” Greg Hayes said during the call. “But we have a very limited stock of material for Stinger production.”


The company, he said, has been working with the Department of Defense “for the last couple of weeks” to fix the problem, he said.

“We're actively trying to resource some of the material but unfortunately, DOD hasn't bought a Stinger in about 18 years and some of the components are no longer commercially available. And so we're going to have to go out and redesign some of the electronics in the missile of the seeker head. That's going to take us a little bit of time.”

Raytheon, said Hayes, will ramp up production “what we can this year, but I would expect this is going to be 2023-2024 where we actually see orders come in for the larger replenishments both on Stinger as well as on Javelin, which has also been very successful in theater.”

Both the Stinger and the Javelin shoulder-fired anti-armor weapon (the latter made in a joint venture by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin) have been in high demand since Russia launched its all-out war on Ukraine.


Hayes didn’t say which international customer Raytheon is building Stingers for, but that customer is providing the obsolete components for those systems, according to Breaking Defense, citing an unnamed source. Meanwhile, that source said the remaining pool of obsolete components is limited.

Adding to the problems, is that the Stinger is largely a hand-fabricated product while much of Raytheon’s workforce is trained on building more advanced systems like Tomahawk cruise missiles or the AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missile, according to Breaking Defense.

So far, the U.S. alone has provided 1,400 Stinger systems and 5,500 Javelin systems to Ukraine, according to the Pentagon, at least in immediate assistance. The number of Javelins sent to Ukraine is likely higher when including the years of deliveries prior to the latest crisis that led to the invasion. The first tranche of Javelin sales from the U.S. to Ukraine - 210 Javelin missiles and 37 command launch units for $47 million - was approved by the Trump administration in March, 2018.


But apparently, replenishing those stocks is going to prove a challenge.

The concern about the ability to produce these systems is so great that earlier this month, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn) raised the issue of having President Joe Biden enact the Defense Production Act.

“To produce more of the Javelins, Stingers – all the stocks that we are using and diminishing and running low on and our allies, as well – shouldn't we be applying the Defense Production Act?” Blumenthal asked Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin at a Senate Armed Services Committee budget on April 7.

“We are pushing hard to engage in industry to make sure that we move the production of these items as quickly as we can,” Austin responded. “And that's not an easy task with at least one of the items here, but we will continue to move this in terms of additional production as fast and efficiently as we can.”

The Raytheon CEO’s comments Tuesday morning highlight long standing concerns about how industry can maintain stocks of these weapons even as they are being shipped out to Ukraine.

"These systems are being produced today, but production throughput is limited by long lead time items and capacity constrained sub-tier suppliers," the Office of the Secretary of Defense said in a statement obtained earlier this month by The War Zone. "DoD is still assessing what those components are" that are most impacting the production process, it added.

"Information on stockpiles and requirements for munitions and other weapons are internal to DoD," it continued. "DoD dynamically assesses the inventory for all our systems with an aim to maintain levels that will allow us to support our national defense strategy."

"The U.S. Army has active production contracts in place to support Javelin missile procurements," Jamal Beck, a spokesperson for the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for Acquisition, Logistics and Technology told The War Zone in a separate statement earlier this month. "Any planned additional funding allocations and associated quantity increases are at the discretion of the President, Congress, and Department of Defense leadership."

"The Javelin production lines are currently active and demand signal drives production requirements. Working in partnership with industry, we are exploring options to replenish our inventories," Beck added. "Funding allocation and replacement quantity decisions remain at the discretion of the President and Congress."

You can read more concerns over supply chain problems here.

Though Raytheon talks about increasing Stinger production, the U.S. Army is looking at a replacement and wants to begin testing at least one prototype design by the end of the 2023 Fiscal Year.

Ultimately, the Army would like to get such a weapon into production no later than Fiscal year 2027. You can read more about that here.

For now, though, it looks like Ukraine's consumption of man-portable missile systems is another wake-up call for the Pentagon signaling that supply chain and production flexibility for key systems, as well as the stockpiles in place of them, is likely inadequate.

Contact the author: Howard@thewarzone.com
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Someone posted another article, but this is a bit more detailed.

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Stinger to left, Javelin anti-tank closest in the shot.
 
Doggo Cartrdige helps finding explosives , unexploded ordinance and mines




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Ukraine post office announced that doggo will be honored with his own postage stamp coming up soon

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how do bomb dogs work? are they trained to smell the explosives inside the bombs and mines, like drug dogs are trained to sniff out weed hidden in cars? but munitions are usually sealed shut, no way for gunpowder smell (or C4 smell or whatever they use) to get out, no?

You'd be surprised. They tend to have some fairly substantial (for rear line that is) protection as a result of their primarily stationary nature and obvious priority targeting by both aircraft and artillery, at least for those built and designed on tank hulls. Not as much as a tank, but enough to keep the vehicle intact when shrapnel comes flying. The Sergeant York was intended to stick a new turret on the M48 hull, and that's capable of withstanding a lot more than just machine guns.

The Finns have Marksman, which is an AA turret on top of a Leopard 2 hull: View attachment 3219363
Before you ask, the turret itself is immune to Russian 14.5mm rounds and 155mm airbursts. The electronics will be gone, but the tank and crew will be fine.
the gepard is basically a leopard 1 where the tank cannon turret is replaced by a flak turret, so it probably has similar defense as leopard 1 tanks
 
Gas delivery to Poland has ceased after Poland denied requests to pay in rubles.

Source - Bloomberg

Russia will cut off the gas to Poland on Wednesday in a major escalation in the standoff between Moscow and Europe over energy supplies and the war in Ukraine.

Moscow appears to be making good on a threat to halt gas supplies to countries that refuse President Vladimir Putin’s new demand to pay for the crucial fuel in rubles. Europe has said that doing so would breach sanctions and strengthen Russia’s hand. Poland has been particularly vociferous in its criticism of Russia and has refused to comply with the new terms.

Poland’s main gas supplier PGNiG said it’s been told that all flows will stop from Wednesday. Minutes earlier, Russian gas giant Gazprom PJSC issued a warning that Poland must pay up for its gas supplies -- on Tuesday and in the Russian currency.

“I can confirm we’ve received such threats from Gazprom which are linked among other things to the means of payment,” Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told reporters in Berlin. “Poland is sticking to the arrangements and maybe Russia will try to punish Poland” by cutting deliveries.

European gas prices surged as much as 17% as traders calculated the risk of other European countries being hit next. The threat of cutoffs has been looming for weeks, but there was an indication last week that the European Union was suggesting a potential way out of the standoff.

Share of Natural Gas Imports Coming From Russia, 2020​



Sources: Eurostat; U.S. Energy Information Administration
Note: Data for 2020 are not available for the U.K. and Bosnia-Herzegovina, 2019 data are shown in those countries. Norway imported 10 million cubic meters of gas from Russia in 2020, but as a net exporter is not dependent on Russian imports


Late April and May is when the first payments in rubles fall due -- and European governments and energy company executives are in many cases still trying to figure out how best to respond. Europe is hugely dependent on Russian gas, and has so far mostly shielded energy from sanctions.

“The possible cut may set a precedent for additional curtailments following Russia’s request for payment in rubles,” Patricio Alvarez, an analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence said.

The focus now turns to other European capitals, particularly Germany, which is heavily dependent on Russian gas.

Europe Risks Rationing If Putin Cuts Off Russian Gas Supply


In Rome, the government is monitoring the situation, and the concern is that what is happening to Poland could now occur elsewhere, according to a person familiar with the situation. But for now the assessment is that there is no immediate risks to cut off gas to Italy, the person said.

Poland says it’s fully prepared for a cutoff of all energy supplies and has been outlining plans to live without Russian gas even before the war. The country’s long-term gas contract with Russia expires at the end of this year and the government had repeatedly said it didn’t plan to extend it. It has lined up LNG supplies and plans to start a pipeline from Norway in October.

The government said on Tuesday it has enough fuel in storage. Customers won’t be affected, and the government plans to keep filling storage up to 90%.

“This is a turning point that has been accelerated by Russia today,” Piotr Naimski, the country’s official in charge of strategic energy infrastructure, told reporters.

Read this next: Russia’s War Is Turbocharging the World’s Addiction to Coal

Gazprom had no immediate comment.

There won’t be an immediate impact on the gas that transits Poland via the Yamal link to Germany. The link hasn’t delivered gas into Germany since April 7 and has been sporadic in the previous months, too. Gas is currently flowing in reverse direction, from Germany to Poland and those shipments are set to surge on Wednesday, data from operator Gascade show.

I guess if they don't ceases for, say, Germany, it means Germany cucked even if they don't admit it and is supporting russian currency by buying it, dollar will get hit if so.
 
FSB Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Starter Pack

They Deleted this video from their official FSB page. Shows the staged arrest and all the items.

Including: "Ivan, buy the SIM Cards" and so Ivan went to the nearest store and asked for three copies of sims.

Putin seems to have managed to purge all dangerous intellectuals from the FSB, these items were found in the house of a assassin hired to kill some journalist. Russia is fucked if this is what their "intelligence" comes up with.

Yes that really is three copies of The Sims fucking video game among the items, they don't know what the fuck a sim card is.
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how do bomb dogs work? are they trained to smell the explosives inside the bombs and mines, like drug dogs are trained to sniff out weed hidden in cars? but munitions are usually sealed shut, no way for gunpowder smell (or C4 smell or whatever they use) to get out, no?


the gepard is basically a leopard 1 where the tank cannon turret is replaced by a flak turret, so it probably has similar defense as leopard 1 tanks
As to the bombs, nope. Stuff always leaks out. They're sealed but not air-tight.

As to the SPAG, the hull is the same and has the same protection, yes. Easiest way to make an SPAA that can keep up with your tanks in the field is to just swap the turret out. Turrets are less armored for reasons of both cost and weight (since you really need fast traverse rates, and weight is bad for that), but still typically enough to stop shrapnel and HMG's. And with the reduced crew sizes compared to MBT's, its possible for the turret crew (commander and gunner) to drop into the hull when under suppressive fire from artillery, giving further safety thanks to the increased armor.
 
yeah according to wiki the 35mm twin autocannons fire over a thousand rounds per minute and are capable of using AP ammo, so they'll rip apart BMPs and BTRs with ease
i guess if you look at them as all purpose multirole fighting vehicles like this instead of strictly AA platforms they're pretty neat
I watched Gepards do their thing at Baumholder circa '04, along with the Bundeswehr's self-propelled gun, the M109A2 (same as ours); and just thinking about it makes my dick hard.

Being in the motorpool afforded me some unique opportunities to watch, as the Germans had requested our M88 recovery vehicle to stand by, since theirs was down & we were only a little further up the road on a field problem. And because the M88 is basically a bulldozer-tank, we got to button up and sit close to the firing-line as the SPGs fired. Nobody got stuck, so we did a whole lot of nothing that day; was good times.

The Gepards were on a different range about 2km away, and when the artillery range went cold they lit up some old armor across the valley. It was brutal just watching, and no way would being on the receiving end of that end well, even in an MBT.
 
Wait but what is the wig for?
"Ivan, make sure to get something that can be used as a 'disguise', we're going for "This is an assassin" angle.

Honestly, to me, the nazi shit is a dead giveaway it's staged, I know trannies exist but I absolutely refuse to believe there are people retarded enough to carry a picture of hitler around and russia reeeeaaaallllyy wants to convince it's population that "actually, we lost against the nazis and they're everywhere now, it's the west's religion, look at the heart framed hitler picture their operatives are forced to carry around"
 
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Just because this shitshow is hilarious enough already. Can any of our Cyrillic reading bros confirm this?

yes, also posted a few pages back by Vince

It's kind of funny because the sig is written out "Signature Illegible" with both words capitalized, like it's a name of some kind. Whoever wrote that was high on krocodil.


guess these drone ... "guns" really work

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yes, also posted a few pages back by Vince

It's kind of funny because the sig is written out "Signature Illegible" with both words capitalized, like it's a name of some kind. Whoever wrote that was high on krocodil.


guess these drone ... "guns" really work

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Considering what a shitshow Russia is, you expected them to have enough boots for their men if they're hauling out old and rusted plate carriers?
 
how do bomb dogs work? are they trained to smell the explosives inside the bombs and mines, like drug dogs are trained to sniff out weed hidden in cars? but munitions are usually sealed shut, no way for gunpowder smell (or C4 smell or whatever they use) to get out, no?


the gepard is basically a leopard 1 where the tank cannon turret is replaced by a flak turret, so it probably has similar defense as leopard 1 tanks
Dogs noses are THAT sensitive. It doesn’t matter how sealed you think an explosive is, they can hit on the minuscule bits on the casing from when it was manufactured.
 
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