Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[Gar For Archer]

I think the difference is twofold:

1) Very few Disney Marvel fans are comic book readers or comic book fans and they only know the Disney movies, most long time comic fans have been highly critical of Disney Marvel more or less since the beginning, at least the ones I know. Star Wars was always a movie franchise and so the old guard are fans of one of the most globally popular movie franchises of all time.

2) The number of comic fans is teeny tiny and so even their most scathing criticism is a very small voice and most people are going to shrug their shoulders and say something along the lines of "Who cares? Comic books are stupid anyways, remember that time Spider Man gave Mary Jane cervical cancer with his radioactive spider spunk? Do you want them to do that storyline too?"



I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that, the majority of the movies were boring and mediocre since the beginning and the really good ones could only ever achieve the level of "stupid but fun the first time". Plus, the release schedule was brutal since everything being interconnected made me feel like I was being assigned homework just to understand what the fuck was going on. So I can't just watch The Avengers and then immediately go to watch The Avengers: Age of Ultron? What do you mean I need to watch four or five more Marvel movies and a television show? What the fuck? I hate when any form of media does this, but with movies it feels extra stupid since the point of a movie is to be self contained.

Case in point.

I really don’t care that you dare to hold the highly brave and controversial opinion that Marvel movies are garbage, I’m just explaining why they became so fucking popular.

Yeah no fucking shit some people didn’t like them, but a lot of people DID, for the reasons I described.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I really don’t care that you dare to hold the highly brave and controversial opinion that Marvel movies are garbage, I’m just explaining why they became so fucking popular.

Yeah no fucking shit some people didn’t like them, but a lot of people DID, for the reasons I described.

Fair enough.

 

[quaawaa]

The Force Awakens was widely beloved by both newcomers and old fans alike and even people who were critical of it generally considered the film mediocre and underwhelming rather than outright bad.

The Force Awakens was outright bad. All of the main characters’ actors are terrible and struggle to show emotion. The plot is bad: the main characters are trying to find a map to Luke Skywalker for reasons and need to blow up the Death Star, but this time it is planet sized and destroys entire solar systems instead of single planets. The dialogue is cringe, the plot is nonsensical and the main character is an unlikeable Mary Sue.

Rogue One is a forgettable mediocre movie and it is only hyped up because it was the least bad of the Disney movies and people desperately wanted some good new Star Wars content.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

To an extent for sure. Corporations like Disney though want long term brand loyalty to their franchises, but the new Star Wars doesn't have that type of loyalty that the old nerds for the originals (hell even the prequels) have. They're figuring out slowly that the left leaning childless millennials they're trying to cater to do not have franchise obsession due to an over saturation of media. It'll be popular for a moment, then ultimately forgotten.

They mistakenly thought that the fanbase would stay loyal, even if they took a sack of dogshit, scrawled Star Wars on it in sharpie, and threw it out there. They thought that they can do whatever to attract the childless Disney consoomer millennial group, and the fans would stick around anyway.

 

[Billy_Sama]

I was never really much into Star Wars but played some great video games on the N64 into Gamecube and Xbox like KOTOR, Battlefield and Rouge Squadron. I always felt those games I played enjoyed the source material compared Disney. Lucasfilms prior to the Disney take over sure shilled garbage to the fans but at least the material that people that can enjoy was good and not to shill the the common dominator. Makes me miss when there was some actual material to enjoy than just merchanting.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

What the fuck is this. I don't watch anime I don't watch porn why do I get ads like this?

You browse kiwifarms

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

They mistakenly thought that the fanbase would stay loyal, even if they took a sack of dogshit, scrawled Star Wars on it in sharpie, and threw it out there. They thought that they can do whatever to attract the childless Disney consoomer millennial group, and the fans would stick around anyway.

My family are big Disney consoomers. I am not thankfully. Like they are on Disney forums arguing with people over the color of the castle or some other asinine detail. They are also huge shareholders too and follow the internal corporate drama so I inevitably hear some of it. The current CEO Chapek has turned Disney into a cheap sellout just doing whats good for the bottom line with no regard for their legacy. They have gotten lazy with their media because they thought the mentally ill consoomers would be braindead enough to pay double for parks and just buy product. Its great for meeting quarterly quotas but a horrible long term strategy thats unsustainable.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

most long time comic fans have been highly critical of Disney Marvel more or less since the beginning

That's true, but the same comics fan will also line up for a ticket opening weekend just so they can spend months throwing hissifits about the movie on the interwebz afterwards. Batman fans are probably the most autistic bunch in this regard.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

stupid but fun

First Ghost Rider WAS a good movie and I therefore refuse to even count it as Marvel, it goes to the same limbo first Blade is in.

Batman fans are probably the most autistic bunch

I am pretty sure you could just make a COMPLETELY unrelated, fully "realistic" movie, name it something Batman and get a 50% ticket sale increase.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I am pretty sure you could just make a COMPLETELY unrelated, fully "realistic" movie, name it something Batman and get a 50% ticket sale increase.

the Nolan movies, the third specially and Joker already felt like that, like they just wanted to make another movie but had to include the Batman stuff somehow.

They are a meme now but even the Schumaher movies were hits at the box office, the bat credit card and bat nipple suit that traumatized Doug Walker and all,

 

[Kuchipatchi]

Endgame killed my interest in the franchise with time travel. Maybe they address it in the tv series I didn't watch, but having time travel and now parallel universes as an option makes everything that happens feel arbitrary. Iron Man is totally Dead For Real, while Gamora didn't even stay a corpse for a whole movie, and Loki gets a tv show. How do you give a fuck about the characters when it so obviously comes down to who is tired of the role or wants too much money to work with? I saw literally every movie in theater with my dad because it was our thing, now I can't be bothered to let something stream as background noise while I do laundry.

Tldr Time travel kills consoomerism, I guess.

This is why I really hate alternative timelines, it really screw things over and makes the product less special. How is Spiderman a unique character when anyone can possibly be him? Peter Parker is just a speck in the Spiderman possibilities rather than the ONE and ONLY.
If it wasn't for Miles Morales piggybacking off of the Spiderman name, no one would have cared about him.

On the other side of the coin, Rick and Morty is a show built on dimension crossing from the get-go and makes it clear that the titular characters are 1 in an infinite possibilities so you go in with that in mind.

Mortal Kombat has fallen victim to the Marvel version of the problem. I wish that they stop messing around with the timeline and focus on world-building in the one they've created in the Aftermath ending. Please, no more timeline rubbish!

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The Force Awakens was outright bad. All of the main characters’ actors are terrible and struggle to show emotion. The plot is bad: the main characters are trying to find a map to Luke Skywalker for reasons and need to blow up the Death Star, but this time it is planet sized and destroys entire solar systems instead of single planets. The dialogue is cringe, the plot is nonsensical and the main character is an unlikeable Mary Sue.

Rogue One is a forgettable mediocre movie and it is only hyped up because it was the least bad of the Disney movies and people desperately wanted some good new Star Wars content.

I totally agree, and with the benefit of hindsight many other people now think this too. However when that movie first came out people swallowed it hook line and sinker, and then Rogue One coasted on that good will until The Last Jedi pulled one of the most violent public relations one-eighties in living memory.

First Ghost Rider WAS a good movie and I therefore refuse to even count it as Marvel, it goes to the same limbo first Blade is in.

You mean the one with Nicholas Cage? Yeah that was a fun movie but it predates the MCU idea by about a decade, and Blade is in the same boat but it was even earlier. I don't consider them Marvel movies since they're not part of the Disney MCU.

 

[a very special boy]

However when that movie first came out people swallowed it hook line and sinker

Even someone as jaded as Mike Stoklasa liked TFA when it came out, there's something about that movie that blinded people for about half a year. I thought it would've been because it was so long since the last SW movie, but it was only 10 years. Compare that to 16 years between RotJ and PM - which everyone hated on release.

 

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It's because TFA was first Star Wars movie in 10 years and had been promoted from the start as a "new direction, no more shitty George Lucas Jar Jar garbage" which drove the hype and people thought because JJ Abrams was involved he'd make something pure Star Wars and even if it wasn't the best it would be fun. Everyone wanted to see the direction it would go in after the Prequels and miserable shit like the Clone Wars cartoon movie, it was as natural a hype machine could get.

The current CEO Chapek has turned Disney into a cheap sellout just doing whats good for the bottom line with no regard for their legacy. They have gotten lazy with their media because they thought the mentally ill consoomers would be braindead enough to pay double for parks and just buy product. Its great for meeting quarterly quotas but a horrible long term strategy thats unsustainable.

Of course, that's been his thing since the 90s when he thought the best way to make money was shit out endless direct to video sequels to Disney movies and try and hype them up. That and his long term relationship with fucking over Disney parks to save a buck is why he's known as Bob Cheapek. He's probably somehow responsible for most of your bad Disney memories, hell his decisions are probably related to even shit like the kid who got munched on by a gator at Disneyworld.

On topic, I notice nobody ever seems to consoom much related to said direct to video sequels.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Even someone as jaded as Mike Stoklasa liked TFA when it came out, there's something about that movie that blinded people for about half a year. I thought it would've been because it was so long since the last SW movie, but it was only 10 years. Compare that to 16 years between RotJ and PM - which everyone hated on release.

It was minimally competent, looked good, had oodles of fan service, and dangled something like four different mystery boxes in front of our noses.

 

[celebrityskin]

Jesus Christ, $4,000/mo in RENT, what does that even buy in California? I looked around in my area to see what that kind of money would buy 30 acres of land with money left over to build a nice house, why do people live there?

How are those cities even ran? Like what is the situation like for shop assistants, waiters, baristas, babysitters, cleaners, frycooks, even low level white collar jobs like secretaries etc.?

Even a basic ass 3 bed 1 bath home out in the suburbs of LA seems to be like $800k. Does everyone just commute for 2 hours each way or something?

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

How are those cities even ran? Like what is the situation like for shop assistants, waiters, baristas, babysitters, cleaners, frycooks, even low level white collar jobs like secretaries etc.?

Even a basic ass 3 bed 1 bath home out in the suburbs of LA seems to be like $800k. Does everyone just commute for 2 hours each way or something?

They either commute for several hours each way, or they live in a ghetto full of homeless people and gangbangers. Also with illegal immigrants specifically, you'll get cases of them cramming ten people into a single 1 bedroom flat.

 

[NoReturn]

What you saw before was a consoomer's normal state.
Then, it was sponsored content and #sponcon, a consoomer who advertises without working for the company directly.
And this is to go even further beyond! Customers advertising for companies for free! For but the hope of free products and affiliate income!

How are those cities even ran? Like what is the situation like for shop assistants, waiters, baristas, babysitters, cleaners, frycooks, even low level white collar jobs like secretaries etc.?

Even a basic ass 3 bed 1 bath home out in the suburbs of LA seems to be like $800k. Does everyone just commute for 2 hours each way or something?

They either commute for several hours each way, or they live in a ghetto full of homeless people and gangbangers. Also with illegal immigrants specifically, you'll get cases of them cramming ten people into a single 1 bedroom flat.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

What you saw before was a consoomer's normal state.
Then, it was sponsored content and #sponcon, a consoomer who advertises without working for the company directly.
And this is to go even further beyond! Customers advertising for companies for free! For but the hope of free products and affiliate income!

Its a business strategy. Target mentally ill people who CONSOOM as a coping mechanism for their problems. Getting them to advertise also makes them seem part of something bigger which is a source of copium. It helps build a reliable consumer base that will always buy your product regardless of how dogshit or lazy it is. Stockholm syndrome with extra steps.

Ironically I use Dossier and their stuff is pretty good, but there are tons of cases where people are shilling rebranded junk from Chyna like Funkos. Defending their mountain of plastic is their hill to die on.

 

[Elysian]