Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Captain Syrup]

Guinan is now a Borg

This is the plot of Theodore Rex.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

For me the Borg came from the discarded soulless husks Q left behind when they ascended.

Isn't this the plot of that black thing that killed Tasha Yar?

If you need a good laugh, imagine a Borg-drone Tilly.
Like, it'd take half a dozen drones to inject enough nanites that they can bust through her clogged arteries, let alone assimilate her

As funny as it sounds, I know want a canon explanation of what the borg do with obese people.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

As funny as it sounds, I know want a canon explanation of what the borg do with obese people.

I am Obestus of Borg. Insulin resistance is futile.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

It’s here.

Mike's little speech that at the end was legit sad.

Its how a lot of us feel about alot of the properties we watched as kids. To see so many of them get demolished is just depressing.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I know want a canon explanation of what the borg do with obese people.

 

[Van Darkholme]

Saw the latest RLM review of Picard pop up on my youtube subscriptions panel and decided on a whim to check out the uberpozzed and straight up wheaton tier cooming overenthusiastic star trek subreddit to see if they are still on the "SEE GUYS THIS TOTALLY ISNT GONNA BE AN UNMITIGATED SHITSHOW LIKE THE LAST SEASON" cope train and to my intense amusement, it seems the latest episode was so fucking wretched it managed to break their conditioning to the point where despite overt "negative opinions will not be tolerated" modding literally every comment i could see on the episode thread were openly calling it dogshit or just being bitterly sarcastic.

Naturally this is all punctuated by hilariously self unaware "....but obviously the next season/new trek spinoff is gonna be totally awesome and h*ckin wholesomechungus and is gonna be the moment where nu trek FINALLY becomes good after 15 years so dont lose faith fellow #geeks" nu-cope but the fact that even they cant defend the shit so far gives me a good deal of satisfaction

The little whore is just happy to get paid.

As funny as it sounds, I know want a canon explanation of what the borg do with obese people.

Guess how they feed infants and children in those maturation chambers...

 

[Meriasek]

Isn't this the plot of that black thing that killed Tasha Yar?

Dunno, but it IS the plot of the online novel The Deathworlders.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

As funny as it sounds, I know want a canon explanation of what the borg do with obese people.

I would assume it involves a high-energy plasma chamber and a phosphorous reclamation process?

Mike's little speech that at the end was legit sad.

Its how a lot of us feel about alot of the properties we watched as kids. To see so many of them get demolished is just depressing.

Their attitude with Star Wars was that it isn't much of a big deal that the franchise took a nosedive, now that it has happened to a franchise they actually care about, it doesn't look like such a small issue anymore, I guess.

I've voice Mike's opinion in the SW thread a few years ago, the new stuff might not be something I have to watch or even consider canon, but it is going to be the foundation of everything going forward and for instance knowing that Han Solo will be a deadbeat loser dad, who lost his wife, son and ship for being stupid, dying like a bitch at the hands of his whiny school-shooter son... well, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when watching the old stuff.

Star Trek used to be this optimistic version of humanity's future, where we might have to deal with problems both external (such as alien threats) and internal (conflict of interest within the Federation), but overall, it was a worldview of a unified humanity that for the most part tries to learn and grow, only ever falling back to the use of weapons when every other possibility had been tried.
Every person was allowed to grow and do what they want. Every person was free to live life in a way that benefits them and others. Sure, some unfortunate implications could be twisted into a view where this Utopia is utterly dystopic if you fail to life up to the Federation's expectations, but that was essentially making bad faith arguments, since it's so clear that the whole thing is supposed to be a Utopia for mankind. Exploring those unfortunate implications and showing the bad side of the Federation could be interesting, but we didn't get that, we got Admiral FUCKING HUBRIS and whatever the fuck this Cuddle-Borg-Bullshit of Picard's latest episode is.

What did these modern writers make of Star Trek's setting? A fascist Federation and Starfleet, terrible people doing terrible things, everything's WHOA CRAZY ACTION BULLET TIME EXPLODING HEADS DECAPITATION EXTREME EXTREME LOOK AT THIS OH GOD BLOOD GORE EXPLOSIONS SPARKS EXPLOSIONS FAT TILLY EXPLOSIONS CORPSES DESTRUCTION HATE HATE H A T E .
I am so sick and tired. What is this setting? What did these people think they were doing? NuTrek is so dumb. It lacks any nuance and it is a child's idea of AWESUM.

The social commentary is so painful and bad, too. It manages to be insanely bland and vapid at the same time. POLICE BRUTALITY BAD RACISM BAD. Sure. Thanks for the amazing insight. Never would have guessed that. It's just such a massively brave statement and opinion to publically express in face of all the overwhelming consensus. It is STUNNING and -dare I even say it?- BRAVE to make such bold claims in a sea of identical opinions.

The snippet of Will Wheaton (that cock-gargling abomination) doing an interview and asking the actors if it wasn't too intense to play alongside those ICE characters. Give me a fucking break. Not only are these ICE dudes in nuTrek so comically, cartoonishly one-dimensional and evil, they make Gargamel look like a complex character, but also it's fucking actors portraying these garbage characters.

Stop treating grown-ups like fucking toddlers.

Guess how they feed infants and children in those maturation chambers...

Genetically engineered curvy Borg-chicks that possess perfect mighty mommy milkers?

 

[Meriasek]

Genetically engineered curvy Borg-chicks that possess perfect mighty mommy milkers?

Oh, so that was Seven's purpose before being relegated to being NuLocutus.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Oh, so that was Seven's purpose before being relegated to being NuLocutus.

"Drones of Unimatrix 69, report to the milking chambers".

 

[Privilege Power Hour]

Sure, some unfortunate implications could be twisted into a view where this Utopia is utterly dystopic if you fail to life up to the Federation's expectations, but that was essentially making bad faith arguments, since it's so clear that the whole thing is supposed to be a Utopia for mankind.

I think this is what DS9 gets right. It's suspicious of how the Federation works and can see some corruption and lack of empathy toward groups like the Maquis who get stomped underfoot treaties and being told "lol just move to a new planet lmao." But DS9 ultimately comes down on the side of the Federation's (and Star Trek's) ideals. Despite all the things wrong with the Federation, humanity can and will improve itself and can and will do the right thing in the end. Nu-Trek just believes it all sucks and is bad and is a dystopia.

 

[Captain Syrup]

so that was Seven's purpose before being relegated to being NuLocutus.

Their attitude with Star Wars was that it isn't much of a big deal that the franchise took a nosedive

It fits perfectly with Star Trek. Nobody can really agree on why SW is so hated, and a lot of the criticism came way later.

For one thing, Mando is doing pretty well. For another, SW itself is pretty divided, with a lot of fans blaming the media for amplifying criticism of the prequels, or foisting blame onto the other fans for not paying proper attention to what George was trying to say. (This is why it's so frustrating hearing feedback from the majority of sequel haters. As soon as someone else trashes the prequels, they give you the "toxic" speech. They will also rarely admit that those were bad films.)

 

[Miller]

I think this is what DS9 gets right. It's suspicious of how the Federation works and can see some corruption and lack of empathy toward groups like the Maquis who get stomped underfoot treaties and being told "lol just move to a new planet lmao." But DS9 ultimately comes down on the side of the Federation's (and Star Trek's) ideals. Despite all the things wrong with the Federation, humanity can and will improve itself and can and will do the right thing in the end. Nu-Trek just believes it all sucks and is bad and is a dystopia.

DS9 was a deconstruction done right. The Federation got their ideas challenged and in the end it made them stronger than before.

Tilly's so fat, her ass contained a warp core breach.

braphog core breach

 

[RumblyTumbly]

DS9 was a deconstruction done right. The Federation got their ideas challenged and in the end it made them stronger than before.

DS9 also still felt like Star Trek at the end of the day. The tone was there, the great ideas and creative concepts were there, and the fascinating thing about that show was that it showcased all the different perspectives (Ferengi, Bajoran, Cardassian, Shapeshifters, etc) when before, just about everything was from Star Fleets perspective, so it allowed for The Federation to have its ideas challenged without betraying anything.

DS9 was different and true all at the same time.

 

[Ishtar]

DS9 at the end of the day, stayed true to Trekkian themes, had characters that (mostly) acted maturely and professionally, and respected prior source material, even if it was critical of some of the concepts and tone of TNG.

Modern Trek is not any of these things.

 

[Captain Syrup]

braphog core breach

The Borg were killed when Taco Tuesday liquefied their organic components.

 

[Under Arrest]

Apparently the rumors are true. For years now, the existence of an unaired episode of original STAR TREK has floated around the Internet. Now it's been found, hidden away in a musty film archive at Paramount Studios for over half a century. Unfortunately, all but one minute of the un-aired episode was destroyed by the ravages of time. That said, here it is:

 

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

I’ve been thinking about it for a while, and I think I found a way to utilize current Trek proclivities in a positive manner - make a show centered around Klingons.

All black cast? They’re Klingons, they all have dark skin.
Random violence and gore? They’re Klingons, of course they’re violent.
No continuity with previous shows? They’re Klingons, we’ve never had a show about them before.
Characters acing hyper-emotional at inappropriate times? They’re Klingons, they’re usually ‘operatic’ in nature

As long as the show uses TNG forehead Klingons and not Klin—orcs I think there’s a real chance. not really but we can’t submit completely to despair, right?

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

Mike's little speech that at the end was legit sad.

Its how a lot of us feel about alot of the properties we watched as kids. To see so many of them get demolished is just depressing.

Soyboy Crusher's ICE rant around 4:50 was legitimately infuriating. The people making and watching Picard are evil, spiteful, hateful little bastards.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Soyboy Crusher's ICE rant around 4:50 was legitimately infuriating. The people making and watching Picard are evil, spiteful, hateful little bastards.

Even the other actors know he's deranged:

This is the face of someone who's thinking "sure, we have a problem with immigrants, but kid, you need to calm down." Wheaton is acting like a stereotypical nerd fan who think the actor is the character rather than some interviewer who is interested on the topic.

There is one specific moment when you can see how freaked out John de Lancie is, but I can't find it. His face says it all, he wishes he could be able to disappear himself out for real.

DS9 also still felt like Star Trek at the end of the day. The tone was there, the great ideas and creative concepts were there, and the fascinating thing about that show was that it showcased all the different perspectives (Ferengi, Bajoran, Cardassian, Shapeshifters, etc) when before, just about everything was from Star Fleets perspective, so it allowed for The Federation to have its ideas challenged without betraying anything.

DS9 was different and true all at the same time.

DS9 was still Star Trek because even during war, what mattered the most in each episode where the morals and ideas that were contrasted to each other. Every other episode of Star Trek, from TOS to VOY, is about a group of people encountering others with different moralities and the cultural clash. Sometimes that cultural clash is funny, sometimes is meant to be drama. But the idea is that the audience thinks "mmm, what would I do it if I was in that situation?" And there were instances when Starfleet was plain wrong.

To me, my favorite episode to portray this was Pen Pals. The whole crew discusses why they should or shouldn't help the planet that's about to blow up and I think all the positions they took were very valid, from "no, we can't navigate the galaxy saving people like we're God" to "maybe our presence at this precise moment is part of the cosmic plan".

New Trek is about how we humans in the 21th Century are all wrong and the writers of the show are right.