Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Sexual Chocolate]

Man I could sperg about this but I don't want to derail the thread any more than I already have. The short of it is that any effective solution would likely
1) be unpopular in the short term
2) take longer than 1 election cycle to bear fruit
So the can keeps getting kicked down the road indefinitely.
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The weird thing is, 2019 Zelensky was based and peacepilled. This is the pitch that got him the job:

I will tell you about the Ukraine of my dreams.

• A Ukraine, where the only shootings are with fireworks at birthdays and weddings.
• A Ukraine, where you can open up a business in an hour, receive a travel passport in 15 minutes, and vote online in just one second.
• Where there are no advertisements reading: “Work in Poland.” But rather where the Polish have advertisements to “Work in Ukraine.”
• Where a young family has only one problem – to choose between an apartment in the city or a suburban home.
• Where doctors and teachers receive a real living wage, and corrupt officials receive real prison terms.
• Where the Carpathian forests are untouchable, rather than the parliamentary deputies.
• Where a grandmother receives a decent pension, rather than a heart attack from her utility bill.
• Where the basis for advancement is intelligence, education, talent, and conscience, rather than who one's godparents are. [...]

This is a Ukraine our children will not leave.

We must win peace for Ukraine. From the guarantors of the Budapest Memorandum and our partners in the EU, We will formally request support for Ukraine in our effort to end the war, to return the temporarily occupied territories, and to force the aggressor to pay for the damage that was caused. Surrendering our national interests and territories cannot be subject to any negotiation.

 

[kuuu]

That's all good man but I don't really see you posting 'pro-Ukrainian' propoganda

And why should he exactly? Their media has discredited themselves ten times over. And western media had outright said that they will lie if that helps with keeping the narrative, while Russian media keeps lying by omission at best.
Especially when there are plenty of others doing it anyway.

 

[Garm]

The weird thing is, 2019 Zelensky was based and peacepilled. This is the pitch that got him the job:

I will tell you about the Ukraine of my dreams.

• A Ukraine, where the only shootings are with fireworks at birthdays and weddings.
• A Ukraine, where you can open up a business in an hour, receive a travel passport in 15 minutes, and vote online in just one second.
• Where there are no advertisements reading: “Work in Poland.” But rather where the Polish have advertisements to “Work in Ukraine.”
• Where a young family has only one problem – to choose between an apartment in the city or a suburban home.
• Where doctors and teachers receive a real living wage, and corrupt officials receive real prison terms.
• Where the Carpathian forests are untouchable, rather than the parliamentary deputies.
• Where a grandmother receives a decent pension, rather than a heart attack from her utility bill.
• Where the basis for advancement is intelligence, education, talent, and conscience, rather than who one's godparents are. [...]

This is a Ukraine our children will not leave.

We must win peace for Ukraine. From the guarantors of the Budapest Memorandum and our partners in the EU, We will formally request support for Ukraine in our effort to end the war, to return the temporarily occupied territories, and to force the aggressor to pay for the damage that was caused. Surrendering our national interests and territories cannot be subject to any negotiation.

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Neocons finally have that US/Russia throwdown they wanted all through the cold war. Their salivating over Russia's resources is going to be their destruction.

 

[Borscht]

Poland is making belligerent Polish noises.

 

[White_N]

That's all good man but I don't really see you posting 'pro-Ukrainian' propoganda so I'm pretty sure you're just posting this shit coz you hate something. I almost guarantee you're just anti-US media (which, fair enough...). But don't let it make you oppose 'the western truth' so much that you're just gonna spread bullshit in some weird defiance

But I already posted it. The thing is, pro-Ukrainian propaganda is laughable, like "Russian forces anal-raped 10 children and then ate them" or "They steal washing machines because they fear democracy." I'm not even joking.

Let's continue the evening of shitty stories.
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"Kill us"

And I do hate somebody. I hate the current thing-ers. Like yesterday's antifascists now praising Azov, it can't be more absurd than this.
So "eat a Bandera burger, for democracy!" is entirely within the possibility.

 

[IKOL]

Most ethnic Russians would probably be quite happy to Westernize, as long as they didn't feel like it was being forced on them by people who hate them and want to burn them alive for being Russian. Seems like this war would be a lot more unpopular in Russia, and maybe even seriously threaten Putin's regime, if the West hadn't immediately made it obvious they hate everything Russian, aim to destroy their economy, and actively want to kill their sons, fathers and brothers and diddling kids till their deaths.

Ftfy
And yes, everything said here is correct. Hell, I'm one of these fellows who wanted to emigrate from the Motherland to other one. Oh well, haven't happened. Probably will (not) one day but I can't be certain in anything now.

 

[kuuu]

AFU/Azov trying to escape but they can't.
That's supposedly Azovstal in the background.

Russian soldier orders Ukrainian female soldier to apply a tourniquet to the wounded guy.

 

[Übertroon]

My guess is that Ukraine is in the same place South Vietnam was when we pulled out. Namely the Vietnamese had an army but couldn't pay them. Once the US stopped giving money to them the whole thing collapsed.

Ukraine is more than likely in a similar spot. Hence why Zelensky claims 7 billion a month and the US decided "33 Billion broski". The US has completely taken over Ukrainian governmental functions for this war effort and will keep sending Ukrainians to their deaths.

And Russia is setting up to turn the war into a meat grinder.

Wouldn't the Ukrainians be North Viet Nam? America ships money and weapons to their own proxy state and have a foreign army grind down the Russians for them.
It's the joke now that NATO has disabled a tenth of the Russian army without losing a single man

 

[White_N]

Poland is making belligerent Polish noises.

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Also this

"There will be no border between Ukraine and Poland in the future," – Polish President Andrzej Duda.

"For decades, and maybe, God willing, for centuries, a fraternal state for Poland, and as I hope Vladimir Zelensky prophetically said, there will be no more border between our countries – Poland and Ukraine. There will be no such border! So that we live together on this earth, building and rebuilding together our common happiness and common strength, which will allow us to repel any danger or any possible threat, "Duda said.

Duda did not explain what is meant by the expression "there will be no more borders".

 

[cistendered]

Boy I sure wish there was something you fucking Azog faggots could do to end the fighting at Azogstal if your concern really is civilian lives. I really wish there was some mechanism by which you guys could say "Hey Russia, we don't want to fight any more and endanger civilian lives so let's stop". It's a shame that humanity hasn't come up with such a thing, hopefully the top remaining Azog scientists are working on this issue around the clock.

A couple things though:

1. These Bandera-brained retards can get enough of a cell signal to contact a reporter at the BBC, they can't also find a way to contact the Russian military to let them know where the civilian bunkers are?
2. If the civilians are in bunkers where you can't reach them to determine the number of injured, how do you know any have been injured in the latest strikes in the first place? Either you have contact with them or you don't. You can't know that 2 people died and 10 were injured but also not know how many were injured. I hate that this shit is reprinted uncritically.
3. If the civilians are off on their own in bomb shelters, why can't they just evacuate the plant? Why can they only evacuate if you guys are also allowed out under your absurd condition that you all be evacuated to a neutral countries without surrendering your weapons?

I don't care to see any more death in this war, but I have zero sympathy for the remaining Ukrainian fighters in Mariupol. If they get teabagged to death by Russian vacuum bombs then it would probably be a certain kind of justice.

 

[DumbDude42]

Also this

"There will be no border between Ukraine and Poland in the future," – Polish President Andrzej Duda.

"For decades, and maybe, God willing, for centuries, a fraternal state for Poland, and as I hope Vladimir Zelensky prophetically said, there will be no more border between our countries – Poland and Ukraine. There will be no such border! So that we live together on this earth, building and rebuilding together our common happiness and common strength, which will allow us to repel any danger or any possible threat, "Duda said.

Duda did not explain what is meant by the expression "there will be no more borders".
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probably related to ukraines attempt to join the EU asap. once they are part of the customs union, their borders with neighboring eu countries (poland, slovakia, hungary, romania) basically stop existing in practice

 

[White_N]

A new video from Patrick.

Apparently, Chechens operate on Allah's own communism, and one chechen even gifted this dude his uniform, among other things.
Stories about snipers and improvised graveyards are also included.

One of the buildings of the Azovstal complex, the basement of which is a bunker used as a barracks

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The current government continuing the war against Russia is the only thing that is threatening the existence of Ukraine right now. Every week that the war continues is more women and children putting down roots in western countries. The demographic loss is irreversible and there is no victory condition against the Russia Army that will bring it back.

Even worse, any victory over the Russians the Ukrainian government will have to address this demographic crisis, their answer will be wide scale replacement immigration mainly from Middle East and Africa. Mostly men who will displace ethnic Ukranian men, most of whom will be disabled veterans surviving on meager pensions. The rest will be intact families, an insignificant amount will be single women.

But this is far and away for now, because the Ukranian government appears to be coerced into refusing any negotiated peace unless they recapture Crimea, something that is simply not anywhere close to living in reality. So the war will continue and Ukraine will continue to bleed women and their younger demographics. They will have a youth population similar to the size of Iceland when this war is finalized.

Whether you like it or not, negotiating (or even collaborating) with the Russians is the only thing that could possibly save the existence of Ukraine. The west is not exactly into the whole “preservation of nation-states”

I haven't followed the thread in a while, but even if the Russian government proposed an end to the war, unless they are going to give back every meter of land they conquered then this proposal is worthless, as it's just going to be another war in few years. Any belief that "we'll just negotiate new borders and that will be the end" is cucked beyond measure.

Also the whole "muh demographic" is nonsensical. If the country makes it then it will likely receive massive funds to rebuilding, which will draw back the whores and their young (especially as leftist Euros dislike the influx of white people and will immediately expel them when the conflict is over). As for being replaced by muzzies, that's completely retarded. Why would Muslims come to a backwater country where they'll be hated, when free welfare and rape land is easier to get to?

 

[borsabil]

The current government continuing the war against Russia is the only thing that is threatening the existence of Ukraine right now. Every week that the war continues is more women and children putting down roots in western countries. The demographic loss is irreversible and there is no victory condition against the Russia Army that will bring it back.

Even worse, any victory over the Russians the Ukrainian government will have to address this demographic crisis, their answer will be wide scale replacement immigration mainly from Middle East and Africa. Mostly men who will displace ethnic Ukranian men, most of whom will be disabled veterans surviving on meager pensions. The rest will be intact families, an insignificant amount will be single women.

But this is far and away for now, because the Ukranian government appears to be coerced into refusing any negotiated peace unless they recapture Crimea, something that is simply not anywhere close to living in reality. So the war will continue and Ukraine will continue to bleed women and their younger demographics. They will have a youth population similar to the size of Iceland when this war is finalized.

Whether you like it or not, negotiating (or even collaborating) with the Russians is the only thing that could possibly save the existence of Ukraine. The west is not exactly into the whole “preservation of nation-states”

The burgers reckon they can outlast the Russians. Yes the country that has given up on more wars than any other in human history thinks they can meat grind Russia of all places into surrender.

This nonsense will go on until it can't. The US economy is in BIG trouble. A stock market crash and a severe recession is all it will take for them to start making nice. The diversion of having their vibrants rioting for food and gibs will turn focus inwards. Putin has all the time in the world. Worst case he can commit minimum forces and defend the south and east with artillery. The smarter burgers no doubt understand and so the recent escalation, they fucking want the Russians to attack NATO territory so they can go all in before the politics back home make it unfeasible.

 

[IKOL]

Poland is making belligerent Polish noises.

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Yes. Please. Take that fucking cancer (which is Lvov) away. Help us cure the Незалежная.

 

[stakenifes]

And why should he exactly? Their media has discredited themselves ten times over. And western media had outright said that they will lie if that helps with keeping the narrative, while Russian media keeps lying by omission at best.
Especially when there are plenty of others doing it anyway.

Wot cunt? I never said he should. I only pointed out he only shills Russian conspiracies.

 

[stakenifes]

But I already posted it. The thing is, pro-Ukrainian propaganda is laughable, like "Russian forces anal-raped 10 children and then ate them" or "They steal washing machines because they fear democracy." I'm not even joking.

And I do hate somebody. I hate the current thing-ers. Like yesterday's antifascists now praising Azov, it can't be more absurd than this.
So "eat a Bandera burger, for democracy!" is entirely within the possibility.

You proved my point better than I ever could. Enjoy life bro!

 

[kuuu]

Wot cunt? I never said he should. I only pointed out he only shills Russian conspiracies.

Nigger, you can do infers and implications, which is exactly what you did. Or what, you gonna masturbate over semantics now?

 

[IKOL]

Also this

"There will be no border between Ukraine and Poland in the future," – Polish President Andrzej Duda.

"For decades, and maybe, God willing, for centuries, a fraternal state for Poland, and as I hope Vladimir Zelensky prophetically said, there will be no more border between our countries – Poland and Ukraine. There will be no such border! So that we live together on this earth, building and rebuilding together our common happiness and common strength, which will allow us to repel any danger or any possible threat, "Duda said.

Duda did not explain what is meant by the expression "there will be no more borders".
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I'm certain Duda does not remember Katyn and wolyn.

 

[Übertroon]

The burgers reckon they can outlast the Russians. Yes the country that has given up on more wars than any other in human history thinks they can meat grind Russia of all places into surrender.

This nonsense will go on until it can't. The US economy is in BIG trouble. A stock market crash and a severe recession is all it will take for them to start making nice. The diversion of having their vibrants rioting for food and gibs will turn focus inwards. Putin has all the time in the world. Worst case he can commit minimum forces and defend the south and east with artillery. The smarter burgers no doubt understand and so the recent escalation, they fucking want the Russians to attack NATO territory so they can go all in before the politics back home make it unfeasible.

If the Americans are in such dire straits let them continue then. Having the US and Russia death war each other over Ukraine would be hilarious. But I can do it then without the constant yammering of "sanctions will do nothing, russia stronk, in fact sanctions worse for NATO nazis. Sanctions evil though, sanctions war crime that hurts innocent russian children, lift sanctions or we nuke u"