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Don't spread this anywhere, but my uncle who works at Hololive gave me a sneak peek at how the Hololive Alternative anime is coming along.

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My way of coping
 
Nishizawa (Nene's art mom) released... something. It's fully translated, click cc for subtitles.
That was kinda meta and disturbing at the same time. This chick has always some crazy ideas up her sleeve.

CupZ, the group (?) who made alot of great Holo Minecraft videos are debuting as a vtuber. They are from Taiwan so I'm curious which language they will mainly use. Starting in 10 minutes
Lack's long lost chinese brother
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Edit: I just realized he privated the stream. Here are the first minutes of the reveal
 
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Cocone of CocoTsuki Project will be graduating, leaving Kasane as the only active "sister" left.

https://twitter.com/CT_Cocone/status/1522516522211549184
https://twitter.com/Kasane_CT/status/1522516621285523457
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This hurts. They both are really good but you can't really preserve CocoTsuki when Cocone is retiring and Tsukine has already retired. I will still follow Kasane.

Cocone will have an announcement soon.

HACHI usually streams on the hour every Friday night but looks like she delayed to catch Cocone's announcement, they have collabed quite often in the past.
 
Feds = police right? Dems love the police?
This really isn't the thread for the recent political changes but if you look at the opinion polls for various alphabet soup agencies, Dems and repubs have nearly flipped their opinions compared to post 9/11 Bush era. Dems love the FBI, homeland security and spooks more than repubs now but still hate local law enforcement and border patrol.
And this is an extremely tribal split, none of them want to hear about the past abuses and entrapments by the FBI, ATF and DEA for example
 
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Ethel Chamomile discussing racism. She's talking about changing batgirl's race from white to black for some adaptation now.

EDIT: The guy she's talking to is so utterly oblivious. He's totally confused by what she's saying. ESL issue maybe, but still it seems like she went out of her way to find the most disconnected person online for this conversation.

EDIT II: She asked him to name a black character for example and he said "Nagatoro" LOL

EDIT III: I'm going to call her "Niggatoro" from now on.
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Jesus. I can't like Sakamata of HoloX because I feel like she baits coomers who think gross girls smell good(they don't) and Gura says some shit that makes me raise an eyebrow, but at least it's not in a way that feels like it's playing to an audience. I haven't watched more than a few seconds of Pippa but she seems alright enough, but jesus, how do people get like this? I can be a gross fatty on particularly tiring days of work, but I dunno man. Women are wild.
In my own expert and very genius opinion, I think there just wasn't any stability in their childhood. The others I can't speak on as I've never watched most of their stuff but I can flesh out my argument with what I know about the Yabbit.

Pippa moved around a whole bunch and she's still moving around. I get the feeling that her parents separated at one point, if not all together, by the wording of some of her stories though to be fair I'm not aware of her ever saying anything about it. Then there's the issue of schooling. She's never said how many she was in and out of but the number is more than one which typically is not good. Just this week she, again, talked about how she hated school and she was bullied, She even dropped out of high school at one point iirc to make it big on the youtubes. If you go back and listen to the one block challenge stream you can hear her crying at one point about how embarrassed and ashamed she was at that. She got her GED through ECOT I believe it was and then kinda just shut herself up in her room since. It wasn't till she was able to gain some ground as a moth and because of that she got hired on at Phase Connect. Now she has stability and place where she belongs. I have to imagine that you'll find a lot of similar stories from a lot of different chubbas.

The other possibility, and I wanna super stress that I have no direct evidence and don't like insinuating this, is that these women were diddled as children. One defense mechanism of women who were molested is to stop taking care of themselves, make themselves as repulsive as possible to deter anyone from attacking them again or use it as an outward display of how they see themselves. Is that what happened to them? If we're being honest, given what we know about abuse there is a non zero percentage that the answer is yes. I honestly don't ever want to know for two reasons:

1. I believe their it would change their identity from silly Internet girl who entertains me to abuse survivor. I don't think that'd be fair for their work and achievements as entertainers to be overshadowed by something they may still be in the process of recovering from.

2. I will be completely honest about my selfishness in that I would feel incredibly guilty about being entertained by an abuse victim still dealing with their trauma and I don't want that kind of baggage. It'd be like Alfred's Playhouse on repeat while I throw popcorn at the dancing anime girl. It'd be different from me following my favorite cow because I do not interact with him only document. I do interact with these women and I would have to stop that. If this all sounds weird and incoherent that's because it is as I am a weirdo with hangups.

I really hope it's either an act or exaggerated because I don't take joy in the hardship of others, save for people working for the press.
Indie I like talking about attending Offkai:
Some interesting tidbits:
- organisers seemed very inexperienced, not enough panels to avoid dead air, bunch of last minute changes, almost no badge checking etc ...
- very different crowd compared to actual anime conventions, people were way more introverted/nervous
- staff claimed around 700 people total showed, thinks it was more around 200-ish
- apparantly Domo mc'd for almost every fucking panel?? probably could've used some help (sidenote: I like how the earliest pages of this thread were full of Domo the Ratking doomposting and now nobody fucking cares about him)
- retarded lottery system for meet and greet with Mousy and Melody: wait in line, push button, rng tells you if you can get a ticket, if you failed you can just get back in line. literal gacha system, massive waste of time
- great opportunity to advertise yourself as a vtuber ... barring that there were usually on 30 people in the rooms

Overal, sounds like it was enjoyable, next one could be great, assuming they plan it out better.
I like Lua. She's comfy enough. She did the rigging on Sister Abigail Dovely, a personal favorite of mine. I really liked her opinion and views on everything as someone who wasn't personally involved and yet still in the industry. I also really liked how she was mentioning that there was a vtuber on at the watch room who was just talking about the con and it was clearly Pippa she was talking about. There was nothing but rave review of the con from the PC girls so this was a nice balancing of that. Here's to hoping OffKai learns and grows from this.
 
[HOT GOS ALERT] [PINK CAT WARNING]

Seems everyone's least favourite(?) Pink Vtuber Nyanners has a boyfriend, and it is official! Hear it from the man himself:
Let's wish the couple many happy days and many entertaining meltdowns from their respective fanbases!
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I like her cause she's a goofball and feels real. She has flaws but doesn't try to act like she's perfect and comfortable with talking about herself on certain level and say what's on her mind usually. I find that entertaing and endearing. Plus some of the dumb things she discusses reminds me of simpler times on the internet.
Fair enough, I disagree but to each their own. To her credit her non-corpo self doesn't bother me as much, she doesn't feel as try-hard there, and I would at least recommend her Project Zomboid videos especially the one with Nurse and the latter one where she steals a truck (watch the other guys pov for some great tard rage when he dies).

Comparing one group you don't watch to another group you don't watch honestly just makes you look openly retarded.

If I said 'Based on the clips I watched, Marine is just a Japanese VShojo member' I'd be lynched by this thread that has spent the last two days talking about Pippa's dental records and political allegiances mostly uninterrupted.
I've never watched VShojo but while Niji is definitely lewd they've never been lewd in the "come fuck me" sense that you see so many indies fall into, at least to my knowledge. The only time they've gone so far that I'd avoid was the after stream of Millie and Enna where they were doing some BDSM story telling between both their chats. That was... a thing. If anyone is skipping Selen, Millie, Enna, or Pomu because of occasional lewd though they're missing some great content, especially if you like gremlins.

Unrelated to anything else, but have any of the corpos ever gone in to detail about why they need to get permissions to play games? It's weird to need an ok and that companies like Fromsoft can be faggots and say you can't monitize it when in the US you could do it regardless and tell them to eat shit. Is it related to some Japanese laws or is it just not wanting to burn bridges where there might be sponsorships down the line?
 
[HOT GOS ALERT] [PINK CAT WARNING]

Seems everyone's least favourite(?) Pink Vtuber Nyanners has a boyfriend, and it is official! Hear it from the man himself:
Let's wish the couple many happy days and many entertaining meltdowns from their respective fanbases!
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Well I'll be damned Nanners is braver than I thought. Hope they have a lasting relationship.
 
Fair enough, I disagree but to each their own. To her credit her non-corpo self doesn't bother me as much, she doesn't feel as try-hard there, and I would at least recommend her Project Zomboid videos especially the one with Nurse and the latter one where she steals a truck (watch the other guys pov for some great tard rage when he dies).


I've never watched VShojo but while Niji is definitely lewd they've never been lewd in the "come fuck me" sense that you see so many indies fall into, at least to my knowledge. The only time they've gone so far that I'd avoid was the after stream of Millie and Enna where they were doing some BDSM story telling between both their chats. That was... a thing. If anyone is skipping Selen, Millie, Enna, or Pomu because of occasional lewd though they're missing some great content, especially if you like gremlins.
Being totally honest, I don't even think VShojo is what most boards think VShojo is like. When we talk about 'Perpeepoopoo VShojo jokes' we are mostly talking about Nyanners and Vei. Froot isn't really like that, Zen isn't really like that, Mousey isn't really like that.
Silver isn't really like that all the time. Hime basically doesn't exist.

So, ignoring the fact that the Pippa stream that displayed Finana talking about sex toys also had clips of Pomu, Reimu, Enna, Millie, and Selen, Finana only makes up 5% of the branch.

'NijiEN is just VShojo-lite' is just an incredibly smoothbrain take that can only be upheld by someone who doesn't watch them.

Is it related to some Japanese laws or is it just not wanting to burn bridges where there might be sponsorships down the line?
Yes, it's Japanese copyright laws. Cover and AnyColor are Japanese companies so they have to uphold it. Phase Connect, VShojo, PRISM etc are not so they don't need to worry.
 
Unrelated to anything else, but have any of the corpos ever gone in to detail about why they need to get permissions to play games?
Hololive got fucked hard when a company decided to copyright strike (note: not DMCA claiming monetization) all the gameplay videos of their game. Took down all the videos in multiple channels some of which were never unprivated. To avoid that happening again they ask first. Also, Japanese.
 
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Hololive got fucked hard when a company decided to copyright strike (note: not DMCA) all the gameplay videos of their game. Took down all the videos in multiple channels some of which were never unprivated. To avoid that happening again they ask first. Also, Japanese.

To phrase this correctly: Hololive were caught shirking pre-existing copyright laws and Mio almost lost her channel because of it. They have since decided it's probably in their best interests to follow the law.
 
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