Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.

[SCSI]

the syndrome associated with j&j/astrazenica is called vaccine associated immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia or VITT, and isn't associated with mRNA. the mRNA vaccines are associated with peripheral blood clots, meaning clots that form in one part of the body (usually the leg) that can become dislodged and travel to other organs. the j&j associated blood clots are massive and usually form in the sinuses of the brain, and there are not many platelets left in the blood that is outside of the huge clot, there is a high rate of mortality. . peripheral blood clots are deadly less often, their main danger is if they travel to the heart, lungs, or brain and get stuck, or if treatment is delayed for too long. with peripheral blood clots, the rest of the blood contains normal levels of platelets. The normal treatment for blood clots is to give heparin, a blood thinning medication. if you give heparin to a VITT patient you will likely kill them since they have very few platelets and now their blood is even thinner, so any minor injury will bleed profusely & we all break small blood vessels each day just from the act of moving around and bumping into things. VITT is relatively new and treatments are evolving because of that. peripheral blood clots are as old as obesity, the treatment is pretty well established.

I am not saying that either shot is better or worse, just that the blood clotting problems from each shot aren't the same. it is plausible that the risk of peripheral blood clots is elevated for a long time after mRNA while the risk of VITT is only there very soon after vaccination, and in that case the mortality rate might go either way. there are a whole bunch of other problems that have to be compared between each shot to see how the safety profiles stack up, too. The political pressure being exerted makes it basically impossible to know what the truth is exactly.

Do you have more info on this issue? I came across a recent (Jan.22) Lancet paper about this and am curious to hear yours (or any of the other medical Kiwis here) thoughts. (Archive) I noticed they flagged in that paper some signs that warrant further study as to whether or not the mRNA vaccines can cause this, albeit seemingly less frequently than JJ/AZ.

Spoiler: PL Shit

My uncle may have this. I mentioned him once before a while back when the subject of clot-induced strokes, especially TIA-type ones, came up, as he abruptly started having them shortly after getting CoVaxed. (Zero prior history of any kind of heart or circulatory system disorders, healthy weight and diet, nonsmoker.) A week ago things got a whole lot worse -- he had a massive heart attack somewhere in the upper chambers of his heart that nearly killed him. He's now on extreme blood thinners and the doc has told him he basically needs to LARP as a hemophiliac from now on, as he could bleed out from about anything. I don't know yet which CoVax he got but am trying to find out. Sorry for the vagueness, but the "holy fuck" text messages I got from my mom about this were a little light on the technical details, and I'm getting a vibe that politics between two very opinionated family members may be making this whole situation more sensitive.

 

[Drain Todger]

Do you have more info on this issue? I came across a recent (Jan.22) Lancet paper about this and am curious to hear yours (or any of the other medical Kiwis here) thoughts. (Archive) I noticed they flagged in that paper some signs that warrant further study as to whether or not the mRNA vaccines can cause this, albeit seemingly less frequently than JJ/AZ.

Spoiler: PL Shit

My uncle may have this. I mentioned him once before a while back when the subject of clot-induced strokes, especially TIA-type ones, came up, as he abruptly started having them shortly after getting CoVaxed. (Zero prior history of any kind of heart or circulatory system disorders, healthy weight and diet, nonsmoker.) A week ago things got a whole lot worse -- he had a massive heart attack somewhere in the upper chambers of his heart that nearly killed him. He's now on extreme blood thinners and the doc has told him he basically needs to LARP as a hemophiliac from now on, as he could bleed out from about anything. I don't know yet which CoVax he got but am trying to find out. Sorry for the vagueness, but the "holy fuck" text messages I got from my mom about this were a little light on the technical details, and I'm getting a vibe that politics between two very opinionated family members may be making this whole situation more sensitive.

They can all cause clotting.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/fda-sh...-due-to-rare-blood-clots.118368/post-11840750

SARS-CoV-2 Spike has a heparin-binding site that triggers amyloidosis. It may even mimic the effects of hereditary fibrinogen amyloidosis.

A central role for amyloid fibrin microclots in long COVID/PASC: origins and therapeutic implications

Post-acute sequelae of COVID (PASC), usually referred to as ‘Long COVID’ (a phenotype of COVID-19), is a relatively frequent consequence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, in which symptoms such as breathlessness, fatigue, ‘brain fog’, tissue damage, inflammation, and coagulopathies (dysfunctions of the...

portlandpress.com

Post-acute sequelae of COVID (PASC), usually referred to as ‘Long COVID’ (a phenotype of COVID-19), is a relatively frequent consequence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, in which symptoms such as breathlessness, fatigue, ‘brain fog’, tissue damage, inflammation, and coagulopathies (dysfunctions of the blood coagulation system) persist long after the initial infection. It bears similarities to other post-viral syndromes, and to myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). Many regulatory health bodies still do not recognize this syndrome as a separate disease entity, and refer to it under the broad terminology of ‘COVID’, although its demographics are quite different from those of acute COVID-19. A few years ago, we discovered that fibrinogen in blood can clot into an anomalous ‘amyloid’ form of fibrin that (like other β-rich amyloids and prions) is relatively resistant to proteolysis (fibrinolysis). The result, as is strongly manifested in platelet-poor plasma (PPP) of individuals with Long COVID, is extensive fibrin amyloid microclots that can persist, can entrap other proteins, and that may lead to the production of various autoantibodies. These microclots are more-or-less easily measured in PPP with the stain thioflavin T and a simple fluorescence microscope. Although the symptoms of Long COVID are multifarious, we here argue that the ability of these fibrin amyloid microclots (fibrinaloids) to block up capillaries, and thus to limit the passage of red blood cells and hence O2 exchange, can actually underpin the majority of these symptoms. Consistent with this, in a preliminary report, it has been shown that suitable and closely monitored ‘triple’ anticoagulant therapy that leads to the removal of the microclots also removes the other symptoms. Fibrin amyloid microclots represent a novel and potentially important target for both the understanding and treatment of Long COVID and related disorders.

https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/115/15/2985/26865/Fibrinogen-amyloidosis-the-clot-thickens

Amyloidoses are disorders of protein folding that result in the formation of fibrillar deposits with a characteristic affinity for Congo red dye and a characteristic appearance by electron microscopy. These deposits are associated with organ damage, and an ever-expanding number of different proteins have been shown to be implicated in amyloid deposition and pathology. Although the precise mechanism of amyloidogenesis is not yet fully understood, it is proposed that characteristics of the primary structure of deposited proteins render them amyloidogenic. The most common type of systemic amyloidosis (AL) is characterized by deposition of clonal immunoglobulin light chains and is associated with plasma cell dyscrasias, from monoclonal gammopathies through full-blown multiple myeloma. The second most common type, termed AA, is linked to deposition of a serum precursor protein SAA, which is typically produced at high levels in certain inflammatory responses. In recent years, yet another group of systemic amyloidoses has emerged associated with genetic defects in amyloid-forming proteins including transthyretin, fibrinogen, lysozyme, and others.2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2895773/

Alzheimer's disease (AD) is a neurodegenerative disorder in which vascular pathology plays an important role. Since the β-amyloid peptide (Aβ) is a critical factor in this disease, we examined its relationship to fibrin clot formation in AD. In vitro and in vivo experiments showed that fibrin clots formed in the presence of Aβ are structurally abnormal and resistant to degradation. Fibrin(ogen) was observed in blood vessels positive for amyloid in mouse and human AD samples, and intravital brain imaging of clot formation and dissolution revealed abnormal thrombosis and fibrinolysis in AD mice. Moreover, depletion of fibrinogen lessened cerebral amyloid angiopathy pathology and reduced cognitive impairment in AD mice. These experiments suggest that one important contribution of Aβ to AD is via its effects on fibrin clots, implicating fibrin(ogen) as a potential critical factor in this disease.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33789211/

The post-infection of COVID-19 includes a myriad of neurologic symptoms including neurodegeneration. Protein aggregation in brain can be considered as one of the important reasons behind the neurodegeneration. SARS-CoV-2 Spike S1 protein receptor binding domain (SARS-CoV-2 S1 RBD) binds to heparin and heparin binding proteins. Moreover, heparin binding accelerates the aggregation of the pathological amyloid proteins present in the brain. In this paper, we have shown that the SARS-CoV-2 S1 RBD binds to a number of aggregation-prone, heparin binding proteins including Aβ, α-synuclein, tau, prion, and TDP-43 RRM. These interactions suggests that the heparin-binding site on the S1 protein might assist the binding of amyloid proteins to the viral surface and thus could initiate aggregation of these proteins and finally leads to neurodegeneration in brain. The results will help us to prevent future outcomes of neurodegeneration by targeting this binding and aggregation process.

They injected people with genetic material that makes a prion.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

^^^

prion

Oh, fuck.
I remember Mad Cow Disease.
We about to have some fun, boys and girls!

 

[sperginity]

Do you have more info on this issue? I came across a recent (Jan.22) Lancet paper about this and am curious to hear yours (or any of the other medical Kiwis here) thoughts. (Archive) I noticed they flagged in that paper some signs that warrant further study as to whether or not the mRNA vaccines can cause this, albeit seemingly less frequently than JJ/AZ.

Whenever someone comes in with stroke or heart attack symptoms they get a battery of labs that always includes a cbc, in that test all of the types of blood cells (and a few other values) are counted. If there was anything pointing towards VITT it would be in that blood work, it would show extremely low levels of platelets. low platelet counts often result in the test being repeated because collection error can cause a false value and also platelets are always in short supply, they spoil quickly and not everyone can donate them, so giving them when it isn't truly needed is a bigger waste than usual. Your relative likely would have received a transfusion of platelets if they had VITT. what you are describing sounds more like repeated bouts of peripheral blood clots. and that is scary! don't get me wrong.

most of the time when a blood clot gets lodged in the body, blood thinners are prescribed to dissolve it over time and then are discontinued. If a patient is at high risk for forming clots (like if they have had it happen twice or they have a risk factor like obesity or smoking) they can be ordered preventatively and people kept on them indefinitely. It sounds like they are giving preventative blood thinners to your relative, and things are much better than they used to be for people who need those medications. the older medications required weekly blood tests and changes in diet to avoid interactions with the medication. people on the newer generation of blood thinners can live their lives normally for the most part without a lot of extra lab work and no dietary changes. Just to warn you, people who are on blood thinners often have bruises their hands and randomly on other parts of the body. It will look worse than it actually is. most of us associate bruises with a lot of pain because you have to be hit fairly hard to sustain them, but these patients sustain bruises from activities of daily living there isn't an underlying injury. How thin your blood is can be detected with tests, and there is a target range for blood thinners, so that the blood is somewhat thinner but not dangerously thin. So for instance a nosebleed will still stop, it just takes a lot longer of a time holding pressure on the nose before it quits.

don't know why I can't properly quote these but oh well:

They can all cause clotting.

causing clotting =/= causing VITT

They injected people with genetic material that makes a prion.

that isn't what it says. it says "SARS-CoV-2 S1 RBD binds to a number of aggregation-prone, heparin binding proteins including Aβ, α-synuclein, tau, prion, and TDP-43 RRM." Binding to a protein is not the same as making a protein. the implications are different.

prions are genetically normal proteins that have misfolded. despite the huge computing projects like folding @ home, scientists still don't understand what causes proteins to fold into specific shapes or what causes them to misfold into prions.

There were also a few cases where children under 5 were "accidentally" given the covid shot at places like Walgreens (Walgreens had a major problem getting the covid jabs and the flu shot mixed up).

also some shitty shitty parents forged the paperwork for their kids to get vaccinated early. if you search vaers for reports on patients who are 4 years old you will see that multiple people did this and got caught. I am sure there are many more that the clinics didn't bother to submit to vaers.

if you get some time please check out dr. been, he has medical videos that are good enough to use for CEUs (continuing education credits) for healthcare professionals. you are clearly interested in medicine but lack some background info that would help you interpret papers, that seems like the fastest way to get you where you want to be.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's been a few weeks since the end of the federal mask mandate on planes. Has there been a spike in deaths? You'd expect to see a near-instantaneous jump if masking up on planes were in fact staving off the apocalypse.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

So, Long COVID corresponds to neurological degeneration, with Alzheimer's like symptoms? Well God damn it, I got that back in February and I can feel my memory going.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

The prion issue was my greatest fear, since rather than just introducing a material we were actively encouraging our body to create from code we were injecting. Even if it wasn't a prion itself, the notion that it could degrade into a prion form was a potential that concerned me. I guess I won't be terribly surprised if it is. Of course, the spikes are in the natural infection too, so maybe the whole world is just boned. After all, even vaxmaxxed they tell you that you will still get covid. I don't see how spikes on top of spikes on top of spikes is an improvement in that scenario.
In other news one mom I know who vaxmaxxed her 5 year old is now constantly complaining how he gets sick every time she lets him go to a place where other humans are. His liver hasn't exploded yet (though the Minnesota data on the hep kiddos stated ages under 3... these are the pandemic children who never knew normal human contact and likely got spike milk or in utero spike exposure.) I wonder if the kid has the VAIDS or if it will just be that his crazy mom forbidding all human contact for half of his life turned him into a fragile bubble boy. Of course, children getting fevers and sniffles they were overdue for is no big deal. She cries she has failed as a Mom for allowing him to get sick, but I think these people have forgotten it's a normal part of human life, not some great tragedy. Living in too sterile of an environment is actually kinda bad for a person, but a lot of people can't see shades of gray anymore.

 

[teriyakiburns]

prions are genetically normal proteins that have misfolded. despite the huge computing projects like folding @ home, scientists still don't understand what causes proteins to fold into specific shapes or what causes them to misfold into prions

They may be overlooking the role electrical charge plays in these things. It's understandable they would, given how new the field is, but it's starting to look like the flow of charge plays a huge role in biochemistry, for everything from how mechanisms within individual cells function, to how and when to specialise stem cells, to how the body know where it's various bits should grow at the foetal stage. It's fascinating stuff.

Random example I just dug up: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14690282/

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

So, Long COVID corresponds to neurological degeneration, with Alzheimer's like symptoms? Well God damn it, I got that back in February and I can feel my memory going.

Nice one, China.

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

So I ended up getting an emergency referral to the dermatologist today for ( 99% sure ) perhaps the absolute gayest reason known to man: Acute generalized exanthematous pustulosis (AGEP) in response to an OTC antihistamine

What does this minor powerlevel have to do with the Wuhan bioweapon? I was asked at least half a dozen times if I had gotten vaccinated?/are you sure?/Intimate partner vaccinated?

Yes, making ab-so-fuckinglutely sure that I didn't get exposed to the magic juice was apparently an integral part in the differential diagnosis of my grotesque mystery skin condition. Amazing.

Pl here too. It was my dermatologist (rosacea) who told me, early on, that she couldn’t treat me if I had gotten vaxxed.

 

[Bakarina]

In other news one mom I know who vaxmaxxed her 5 year old is now constantly complaining how he gets sick every time she lets him go to a place where other humans are. His liver hasn't exploded yet (though the Minnesota data on the hep kiddos stated ages under 3... these are the pandemic children who never knew normal human contact and likely got spike milk or in utero spike exposure.) I wonder if the kid has the VAIDS or if it will just be that his crazy mom forbidding all human contact for half of his life turned him into a fragile bubble boy. Of course, children getting fevers and sniffles they were overdue for is no big deal. She cries she has failed as a Mom for allowing him to get sick, but I think these people have forgotten it's a normal part of human life, not some great tragedy. Living in too sterile of an environment is actually kinda bad for a person, but a lot of people can't see shades of gray anymore.

Sounds like your mom friend needs to plop her kid in some dirt and let him eat it.

 

[Josterman]

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Let's see who'll be the next country to follow Denmark's move.

 

[Josterman]

Let's see who'll be the next country to follow Denmark's move.

It’s only a matter of time before the dominoes fall over

 

[Blasterman]

They may be overlooking the role electrical charge plays in these things. It's understandable they would, given how new the field is, but it's starting to look like the flow of charge plays a huge role in biochemistry, for everything from how mechanisms within individual cells function, to how and when to specialise stem cells, to how the body know where it's various bits should grow at the foetal stage. It's fascinating stuff.

Random example I just dug up: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14690282/

The problem with modern science is that scientists routinely forget that reality is connected at every level. Ignoring quantum effects leads to information fall-off at every subsequent level, as does ignoring the atomic, molecular, etc. At some point, even our best and brightest thinkers appear to have forgotten a mental shortcut is still a fucking shortcut- your theories and projections will be wanting or incomplete accordingly.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

It’s only a matter of time before the dominoes fall over

I think they would be due to fall over but luckily the plan is now on to it's next phase - famine. Lack of oil and other forms of energy, food processing plants blown up, reduction in fertilizer usage, economy crashing, there might be a lot of people starving to death soon. Remember all of the times that they tried to convince people to get the vaxx by offering a free Klondike bar? Well it will probably work a lot better this time when they offer free factory made meat with your next vaccination and it's the only chance to put something in your belly.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

The problem with modern science is that scientists routinely forget that reality is connected at every level. Ignoring quantum effects leads to information fall-off at every subsequent level, as does ignoring the atomic, molecular, etc. At some point, even our best and brightest thinkers appear to have forgotten a mental shortcut is still a fucking shortcut- your theories and projections will be wanting or incomplete accordingly.

The same applies to every level of EMS and government policy. I volunteer as a first responder and we've had hospital's classify signs incompatibly with life (eg; entire chest cavity or head 404'd et al.) from car crashes as a "covid death". Mother fucker, just cause they had covid like four months ago (IDK) doesn't mean that their drunk ass didn't kill them by running into a ditch at over 100mph. But hey, gimmie dats emergency federal funding. But in reality, anyone with half a brain can made the logical connection that these are not related to Corona.

On the other hand, some stuff just defies modern science. Like the morbidly obease woman with diabetes, heat, kidney, lung failure and a lung infection (?s) who got covid and surivived aweek before we got the call. Medics got a good laugh about that one, one was like "No, there's no way she's alive".

 

[tootopsytoturvy]

This forum is one of the few places on the Internet where we can discuss non-mainstream perspectives on COVID without censorship. I've been reading this thread for a while, so I wanted to give back now with something I found. I recently came across an essay that folks here might also appreciate: https://geraldrogue.substack.com/p/medicalization-and-colonization?s=r
While I don't fully agree with the author's POV, he explores lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and other governmental policies as a form of "white liberal supremacy" intentionally designed to harm non-whites and conservative white people too.
I should say in advance that the essay is super long, but also very comprehensive in covering a wide range of issues around COVID, including mass surveillance, regulatory capture, religious exemptions, and medicine as a tool of "biopower" control.

 

[FFinfo]

Over an hour and a half compilation video of more vax-cattles suffering the adverse side-effects of the Fraudxi flu shots. Some describe their incident with the jabs with avid details, others still recommending them despite the contrary of what's happening to them even if they're trying to be, others of course y'know the typical I regret stuff, and others really struggling to deal with the pains and injuries from their injections with a bit of commentary as usual from my perspective about this stuff.

Interesting link.

famine

Hunting chads win again.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Interesting link.

Hunting chads win again.

There won't be enough animals to hunt and HOW DARE YOU HUNT FOR ANIMALS THEY TRANSMIT COVID TOO REEEEEEEEEEE!