US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Constellationzero]

I'm sick and tired of hearing THIS line. "Consenting adults"? When the majority of the gay rights movement's pioneers were avowed pedophiles/pedo apologists? BULLSHIT. It's precisely because of the "consenting adults" myth that the "grooming shit" even exists.

GAYS REPRODUCE BY MOLESTING CHILDREN.

Agreed 100%

 

[BONE_Buddy]

So walk us through it. Let's say the right starts popping off and it escalates to regional conflict centered around Missouri (because it's central and a likely area of conflict). What does the left do to combat effective right-wing extremists?

That is a very long question to answer, so I will keep it brief.

Shit themselves and cry for the police and military and government to save them.

This, but the military and police are/would be under complete leftist domination. Active insurgency would give the Leftist government the excuse needed to bring the full weight of the counter-terror apparatuses home. While we can joke about how ineffective the above have been in the middle east, "our side" has not had any practical experience waging and active insurgency.

With the radicals and networks in place right now. It would look like many failed insurgencies, with the anarchistic and disorganized revolts and bombings against Czarists Russia in the half a decade before WWI

Without a strong network of support locally, the insurgents will be extremely limited in reinforcements, resources, and cover (both diplomatic and physical). If you have the local bonds, you will at least have some longevity. The Zapatista's secessionary Morelos territory in Mexico is one of the best outcomes of the above.

Without binding ties to other regional and national militant organizations, they cannot widen the war, get external resources and recruits, or get cover. Thus allowing a focusing of resources on the government side. If you do have a wide network of militants, but without much depth, you start getting into the Irish/British Troubles. These conflicts can last a long time, and have a potential for actually getting large scale concessions.

As you get more depth and width in your networks, organization, and support, you start moving more towards your Vietnams and U.S. Civil Wars as you effectively start building parallel states.
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Entire libraries full of books have been written on the topic. I can't satisfactorily cover such a wildly broad question here.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Adding on to this… short of Washington DC getting nuked and the entire chain of command disintegrated in nuclear hellfire, I don’t think we’re anywhere CLOSE to the threshold of secession even being raised as a possibility, much less actually being carried out.

Pretty much, one thing a lot of people openly mention but never really consider is you need a strong unifying reason to even consider secession. Sure, 2020 and January 6 are pushes in that direction, but they aren't true fissures: the average American still has trust in the system and various state governments have taken (if only superficially) steps to correct what transpired. You would need one side to always win, to always have majorities, no matter how lethargic their base support, to get the other side to outright consider separation as a rational answer.

The implosion of the uniparty cabal ironically lessens this potential too since it opens up both the left and right to start fighting for their interests within the confines of their respective parties. Couple on the very likely overturn of RvW validating Republican strategy and influencing future Dem strategy and the conditions just aren't there for it, at least in the near future.

 

[JohnDoe]

The Big One will be more Vietnam 2.0 than Civil War 2.0. It’ll be small insurgent cells destroying critical infrastructure and engaging in guerilla warfare.

I think it'll be more like the American Troubles. Lots of uneasy peace, fear and loathing, and occasional flare-ups of violence.

Agreed, I would put my money on less car bombings and more targeted assassinations and sabotage by so called 'lone wolves' in the American Troubles. The modern surveillance state and decades of FBI practice has made larger scale, top down organization very difficult. Even the distributed 'affinity groups' of the Communist radicals (BLM and Antifa) would get rolled up pretty quickly if they weren't tacitly supported by their Democrat infiltrators in the government and law enforcement. The levels of organization and resources required for IRA-type campaigns would be too vulnerable to infiltration by Humint or Sigint. Conversely, the country and its officials and infrastructure are so numerous and so spread out across vast swaths of territory that they are very difficult to defend from the theoretical ARA. Ireland was able to be held by a very small number of troops, but even if every cop, NG and soldier/airman/sailor was handed an M-16 and given a corner to stand on they couldn't hold a quarter of the landmass. Even in regards to specific targets, there simply aren't enough security resources to give every mayor or Governor or government official the same kind of protection as the head of the executive branch - even large cities like New York couldn't afford the kind of 24/7 security cordon needed to keep one lucky sniper from doming their officials. Even assuming the executive is left unscathed, how will his or her government run when their councilors, advisors, and other, less well guarded assets get blasted almost as soon as they are replaced? Even avoiding direct bloodshed, there is no way to continually safeguard the garbage trucks, subway lines, bridges, power stations, water pumps, and every other spec of infrastructure that is not only the lifeblood of the city, but has been neglected for decades. The open secret is that most utilities are held together by duct tape and continual human effort, even a temporary worker's strike could cripple them for months - sabotage would be devastating.

The long and short of it is that the American Troubles will be a lot less organized, and a lot more violent. So I agree with you 100% about that. Me personally, I'm dedicated to living a life of peace here on the farm, so I plan to never be involved in such shenanigans. I've got my corn, my family, and my Bible, thats all I need.

 

[Collections Agent]

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I swear to God every time I hear this man speak I think of French Boomhauer

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Couple on the very likely overturn of RvW validating Republican strategy and influencing future Dem strategy and the conditions just aren't there for it, at least in the near future.

*Almost* in agreement with this. If the pendulum starts to swing back, and politics starts seeing some motion in both directions again, the odds of the conservative side of the nation driving to civil war drops dramatically. My worry would be the left, who have been shown to be increasingly deranged and violent over the last few years when they only get 99% instead of 100% of their way. This worries me because left wing activists have already shown they don't believe in bad tactics, only bad targets, and are more than happy to paint entire organizations as evil for the smallest of slights in perpetuity. Terrorist activities from them would likely be bloody, unrestricted, and without remorse.

Look at some of the targeted attacks during the summer of love, and tell me that legitimate terroristic action from them wouldn't be even more violent.

 

[Meat Target]

*Almost* in agreement with this. If the pendulum starts to swing back, and politics starts seeing some motion in both directions again, the odds of the conservative side of the nation driving to civil war drops dramatically. My worry would be the left, who have been shown to be increasingly deranged and violent over the last few years when they only get 99% instead of 100% of their way. This worries me because left wing activists have already shown they don't believe in bad tactics, only bad targets, and are more than happy to paint entire organizations as evil for the smallest of slights in perpetuity. Terrorist activities from them would likely be bloody, unrestricted, and without remorse.

Look at some of the targeted attacks during the summer of love, and tell me that legitimate terroristic action from them wouldn't be even more violent.

They're already threatening more violence if they don't get their way.

They've claimed responsibility for that crisis pregnancy center firebombing in Wisconsin:

 

[HandsomeDan]

They're already threatening more violence if they don't get their way.

They've claimed responsibility for that crisis pregnancy center firebombing in Wisconsin:

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"inalienable right to manage our own health is returned to us" hahahahahahahah
As the lucky man says as he peers down at the sultry beauty queen on all fours - "now thats a position I can get behind!"

As I am sure most of you will notice, most of what is written in here could easily be used when speaking about not being forced to take a vaccine...and would actually be a justified position vs. baby killing.

Im sure whoever with "Janes Revenge" wrote this is fully vaccinated and still wears a government mandated mask.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

They're already threatening more violence if they don't get their way.

They've claimed responsibility for that crisis pregnancy center firebombing in Wisconsin:

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>using the word literally even though it makes the overall sentence weaker

we're dealing with millenials here for sure

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[LillWeeb]

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If it weren't for the constant sightings and the 2004 Nimitz videos, I would totally agree with you. This stuff has been going on for way too long to be a Blue Beam thing tho.

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If it weren't for the constant sightings and the 2004 Nimitz videos, I would totally agree with you. This stuff has been going on for way too long to be a Blue Beam thing tho.

while there might be real ET ufos im convivence all this recent government reports and hearings is a blue pilling event/ psy op

 

[Extreme Crusader]

@Just Hamsters is a child molester

 

[Scale Smerch]

*Almost* in agreement with this. If the pendulum starts to swing back, and politics starts seeing some motion in both directions again, the odds of the conservative side of the nation driving to civil war drops dramatically. My worry would be the left, who have been shown to be increasingly deranged and violent over the last few years when they only get 99% instead of 100% of their way. This worries me because left wing activists have already shown they don't believe in bad tactics, only bad targets, and are more than happy to paint entire organizations as evil for the smallest of slights in perpetuity. Terrorist activities from them would likely be bloody, unrestricted, and without remorse.

Look at some of the targeted attacks during the summer of love, and tell me that legitimate terroristic action from them wouldn't be even more violent.

Terrorist attacks like this aren't the same as full-blown secessionist movements though. I also think that we could see leftoid derangement turn into some modern day version of the Weathermen bombings, but it's not the same as the likes of California or New York deciding to declare independence.

You would need the Republicans securing a stranglehold over the entire US political system with no ability for Dems to obtain power here and there for the left to see civil war as viable - and for all we're enjoying the pendulum swing, we know that's unlikely to happen. Radicals (on both sides) will do as radicals have always done, but the conditions required to have the average person actually side with them aren't present.

 

[pen burger]

I'm sick and tired of hearing THIS line. "Consenting adults"? When the majority of the gay rights movement's pioneers were avowed pedophiles/pedo apologists? BULLSHIT. It's precisely because of the "consenting adults" myth that the "grooming shit" even exists.

GAYS REPRODUCE BY MOLESTING CHILDREN.

Yeah i don't really have an agenda against gays, just call people "faggots" for funsies. I try to be very live and let live but..

This is pretty solid logic that I'm going to have a hard time navigating around.

 

[Meat Target]

Amnesty for psychopaths.



Down with the dictatorship of faux compassion.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/biden...real-tough-problem-suggests-it-may-get-worse/

President Biden said Tuesday that soaring inflation was “a real tough problem to solve” and warned it could get worse before it gets better — while offering no new ideas to stem rising prices.

“It’s really complicated. I’m not suggesting American people can’t understand it. They understand it, but they have, you know, they’re working eight, 10 hours a day just to put food on the table,” Biden said during an event at the White House-adjacent Old Executive Office Building.

With annual inflation at highs not seen in more than 40 years, Biden declined to predict how long it would take for prices to start coming down — then suggested they may actually rise even higher through 2023.

“I’m not going to predict that,” he told reporters. “It ranges depending on which economists you’re talking to — by the end of this year and some say it’s going to be, it’s going to increase next year. But there’s others who say by the end of this year, you’re gonna see it come down, by the [end of the] calendar year. I don’t know, but I know what we have to do to make sure that we can bring it down.”


Annual inflation hit 8.5% in March — the highest rate since 1981 — after Biden assured the public last year that smaller price hikes were temporary. Tuesday’s event came on the eve of Wednesday’s announcement of April’s Consumer Price Index figure, which economists expect to come in at 8.1%.

Asked about polls showing large majorities blame him for high inflation, Biden said, “All they’re focused on, understandably, is the problem they’re facing.”

“They get a five-and-a-half percent raise, average raise, in their salaries. And yet inflation exceeds that. And they look around the world and they know that a lot of it’s extremely complicated, and so they’re frustrated and I don’t blame them,” Biden said.

The president blamed the COVID-19 pandemic, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and what he described as greedy oil and meat companies’ price spikes — rather than government spending.

Biden noted that he had allowed gas companies to increase the amount of ethanol in fuel blends this summer to lower prices, but blasted oil companies for not drilling more while “shipping record profits to their investors.” He also touted his proposed legislation to transition to renewable energy sources, but lamented, “You need 60 votes [in the Senate] to get major things done.”

On Tuesday, the president also sought to refocus the debate about inflation on what he said Republicans might do if they retake control of Congress in the fall midterm elections.

Biden attacked Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee, who recently suggested that all Americans pay at least some taxes and that all laws expire after five years. Biden said that could result in the demise of Social Security and higher costs for millions of people. The Washington Post’s fact check column, however, has rated as false Biden’s efforts to describe Scott’s personal ideas as GOP dogma.


Scott returned fire in a Fox News interview Tuesday, saying, “We have 8.5% inflation. We’ve got the highest gas prices ever. We’ve got low labor participation. We’ve got a GDP that is declining. We’ve got mortgage rates skyrocketing. We’ve got a stock market going down. So, he doesn’t have ideas. He was confusing. He put up no ideas [for] what he was going to get done.”

Biden defended his own record.

“I think our policies have helped, not hurt. Think about what they say. The vast majority of the economists think that this is going to be a real tough problem to solve. But it’s not because of spending,” he insisted.

The president also claimed that he actually reduced government spending — despite enacting a pair of massive spending bills last year — by noting that the federal deficit had declined since 2020, when Congress passed about $4 trillion in emergency pandemic spending.

“We’ve brought down the deficit. The bottom line is how much does America owe, how much of the hole are we going? We’re reducing that,” Biden said, despite the fact that the federal debt continues to grow.

Republicans call Biden’s framing deceptive, noting that the president’s $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan Act, which passed last year, wasn’t offset with new revenue, nor was about $256 billion of the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure law.

In one potential step to fight inflation, Biden confirmed that he was looking at potentially rolling back former President Donald Trump’s tariffs on Chinese goods, but said only that “we’re discussing it and no decision has been made.”

Biden in December claimed that November’s 6.8% annual inflation rate was likely the “peak.” He said in July of last year that high inflation was “temporary” when it was around 5%.

A poll released last month by CBS found that about 69% of US adults disapprove of Biden’s handling of inflation. Even among Democrats, 41% disapprove of Biden’s response.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Yeah i don't really have an agenda against gays, just call people "faggots" for funsies. I try to be very live and let live but..

This is pretty solid logic that I'm going to have a hard time navigating around.

Simple. Pedos creep into whatever fringe group will turn a blind eye to their degeneracy. This can be the Catholic church, left wing political groups, right wing political groups, or early faggot advocacy groups. It's the same logic at work as in the 'Geek Social Fallacy': you don't want to be alone, and hearing your opinions regurgitated at you gives you a dopamine hit, no matter who is saying it.

The recent push for pedo shit is super creepy though, although I view it more as an extension of the above. You need to continue the grift after the Main Objective (gay marriage) has been accomplished, and to do that you need to focus on fringe and more messed up groups. Those orgs are def crawling with diddlers.

 

[Meat Target]

Oh, no biggie, just the Regime encouraging its attack dogs to break the law.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Amnesty for psychopaths.

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Down with the dictatorship of faux compassion.

There's a typo in their citation. The last parenthetical on the first page doesn't have a close parenthesis following the "quoting" parenthetical at the beginning of the second page. This is entirely petty but it really shows they're not sending their best when the AG can get away with a typo for which a first year law student would be docked points.

 

[JohnDoe]

Oh, no biggie, just the Regime encouraging its attack dogs to break the law.

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Sounds like a good way to really piss off the Supremes, and considering all the cases pending against the current admin it seems like a real risky move.