Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

Would you jerk off animals daily for $10,000 a month?


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Husky attitude combined with Pom neuroticism? Breeding together two very vocal breeds? A breed that likes its personal space and isn't shy about letting people know about its boundaries via teeth, squashed into a tiny body where those boundaries are sure to be disregarded?

Yeah, sure. I'm sure that will end well, but it looks cute right. Call me a dog sperg, but both ends of crossbreeding are annoying. On one end you have people spouting "mixes are inherently healthier and more stable than purebreds" bullcrap until people don't think temperament is real anymore and mix any two breeds together and expect it to work. On the other end you have the elitist purebred folk who refuse to outcross their 40% COI dog breed to healthy and very similar breeds because of blood purity. With terrible results for the animals on either side.
There are plenty of crossbreeds that are fine and healthy - I have two myself, parents were similar sized breeds of similar temperaments and they're fine, lovely dogs who we got for less than £600 each from reputable breeders. Crossbreeds where people charge you out of the ass for the latest, greatest fad are bullshit, though. No I don't want a fucking Jacksky or Poomdle or Labramute or whatever stupid mashup name you've given those godforsaken puppies.
 
There are plenty of crossbreeds that are fine and healthy - I have two myself, parents were similar sized breeds of similar temperaments and they're fine, lovely dogs who we got for less than £600 each from reputable breeders. Crossbreeds where people charge you out of the ass for the latest, greatest fad are bullshit, though. No I don't want a fucking Jacksky or Poomdle or Labramute or whatever stupid mashup name you've given those godforsaken puppies.
Absolutely. I'm a working dog autist myself, so I like to keep tabs on functional crossbreeds like lurchers (usually a sighthound x terrier mix). Responsibly bred, functional dogs are excellent no matter if they're mixes or pure breeds. The difference is that people who make good crosses are breeding for a specific health, temperament, or utility outcome from their dogs. Generally in any sort of animal husbandry, breeders who breed only for colors are a red flag.

But people who don't do any temperament or health testing when making mixes, or people who refuse to consider outcrossing at all to keep a breed 'pure' despite massive health issues and diverging far from their original purpose are morons.
 
There are plenty of crossbreeds that are fine and healthy - I have two myself, parents were similar sized breeds of similar temperaments and they're fine, lovely dogs who we got for less than £600 each from reputable breeders. Crossbreeds where people charge you out of the ass for the latest, greatest fad are bullshit, though. No I don't want a fucking Jacksky or Poomdle or Labramute or whatever stupid mashup name you've given those godforsaken puppies.
I’m honestly convinced that some of these weird crosses come from somebody leaving a gate open.
 
They bred an EDS/gastroparesis dog? Has someone told the munchies? These would look great with a service dog vest on. Imagine the content you could wring out of that.
Dogs can actually have EDS. It would be horrifying but not surprising to see people breeding EDS "floppy stretchy dogs" as the next commodity. Why should a disability matter if they're sooo cute?
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Eagerly awaiting munchies who get an EDS dog as their service dog, then get a service dog for their service dog, then scream at people in public and put it on TikTok.

I’m honestly convinced that some of these weird crosses come from somebody leaving a gate open.
One of my dogs is a mix of a dog breed I had never heard of before, and a dog breed that's common as fuck in my area of the world. He's a very good boy. If either of the breeds had a cute name or were "trendy" in any way, he probably would've ended up on Craigslist for +$1000 instead of in a shelter.

I think it comes from the fact poodles are (allegedly) hypoallergenic.
The poodle fur texture that's supposed to make them hypoallergenic also makes coat maintenance a bitch. Your doodle needs brushed every single day, or they will turn into one giant matted hairball. Apparently, this is a surprise to most people??
 
Albino mutation with the usual host of associated health and temperament problems.


The fans of this mutation are trailer trash who insist that because the dogs have blue eyes and slight pigmentation they're not AT ALL albinos, thus all your arguments are invalid. Meanwhile they trade tips on light sensitivity (the dogs squint ALL THE TIME if they're forced to go outside, and the behavior problems from being nearly blind yet bred to bbe alert and vigilant. It's a shitshow.

Then there's "silver Labradors" with grey coats and green eyes, that absolutely DO NOT mean there's a Weineraner ancestor or two back there. The breed club goes nuts over these because they're "not purebred", the promoters make bank by claiming it's a "rare color" thus worth many times more than your boring black, yellow and chocolate standard colors, and just register the puppies as "chocolate" for the AKC. Much handwringing. At least it's not a health issue.
Thankfully, white cane corsos aren't actually white. The proper term for this coat color is straw.
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Personally, I'd just get a dogo argentino if I wanted a white mastiff.
 
I’m honestly convinced that some of these weird crosses come from somebody leaving a gate open.
I have what's considered a weird cross in that I've never seen anything like my dog's litter before, and not seen any since. He and his siblings were a deliberate crossbreed to see their temperament, which might be a bit dubious but they came out of genuine curiousity and not just the breeder thinking he'd hit the newest fad as I don't believe be made more of my oft-mistaken-for-a-border-collie dog in the seven years we've had him. That breeder also encouraged us to neuter at 2 years if we could due to how spaying young might fuck with their endocrine system.

You are right, though. Don't forget to spay and neuter your pets and if you've got a whole bitch, keep her inside if she's in heat for the love of God.
 
Dogs can actually have EDS. It would be horrifying but not surprising to see people breeding EDS "floppy stretchy dogs" as the next commodity. Why should a disability matter if they're sooo cute?
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Eagerly awaiting munchies who get an EDS dog as their service dog, then get a service dog for their service dog, then scream at people in public and put it on TikTok.
Theres an EDS cat doing the rounds too. He's kinda cute too in a deformed way.

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Also "yo dawg! I heard you like service dogs so I put a service dog on your service dog!"
 
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The poodle fur texture that's supposed to make them hypoallergenic also makes coat maintenance a bitch. Your doodle needs brushed every single day, or they will turn into one giant matted hairball. Apparently, this is a surprise to most people??
It is. Ask any dog groomer and they'll probably tell you when people bring in their doodles and poodles they're a matted mess because the owners brush them once a month or less. Sometimes they get so bad they'll need to be shaved down.
Personally, I'd just get a dogo argentino if I wanted a white mastiff
Cane corsos are sort of like if you had pit bulls, but they were bred and trained to be lawful good.
Nah, Dogos and Corsos are both problem breeds too. Not as unpredictable as your usual backyard bred pit, maybe with a little more brains. Dogos in particular have a history of use in dog fighting and tend to have the traits bred into them that make them suited to that. Corsos are definitely not family pets, there's something to be said that they're alright for guard work, but not an easy breed to handle properly. And they can get huge. Backyard breeders haven't got their hands on Corsos yet as far as I can tell, just wait though.
 
It is. Ask any dog groomer and they'll probably tell you when people bring in their doodles and poodles they're a matted mess because the owners brush them once a month or less. Sometimes they get so bad they'll need to be shaved down.


Nah, Dogos and Corsos are both problem breeds too. Not as unpredictable as your usual backyard bred pit, maybe with a little more brains. Dogos in particular have a history of use in dog fighting and tend to have the traits bred into them that make them suited to that. Corsos are definitely not family pets, there's something to be said that they're alright for guard work, but not an easy breed to handle properly. And they can get huge. Backyard breeders haven't got their hands on Corsos yet as far as I can tell, just wait though.
Cane Corsos can be good dogs but are definitely not beginner dogs, and it's always a mess when some low life gets one to look 'tough' because you know that dog will be mistreated and not trained.
Watched a Cane Corso-Shar Pei mix kill a wannabe tough guy type in front of my house as a kid. Heard from word of mouth after that the guy abused his dog. It's what happens I guess.
Also, while on the topic, can we talk about how fucked Shar peis have gotten because of being a trendy breed at one point?
 
A potential cow?
Meet Nicole Simone.
Singer-songwriter, #Bossbabe, and CEO of Redemption Paws, a for-profit dog rescue mill operating in the yuppie central of Canuckland aka Toronto.
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Nicole has generously put aside some time from her music career to lovingly help place aggressive dogs into first-time foster's homes without so much as a 5 page PDF on how to train them. Of course she would never disclose such a thing, and will threaten you with legal if you speak out on her organization's shitty practices.

Nicole has pioneered an ingenious way of flipping dogs for a profit with her patented method:
  1. Find an overflowing dog shelter in the backwaters of Texas, and graciously contact them saying you can take 50 dogs off of them for a new life in Canuckistan.
  2. Pay $0 for these dogs. In fact, these dogs are usually already fixed and assessed by vets all on the Texan shelter's dime.
  3. Load the dogs into flimsy crates on a van and pray they all cross the border in one piece.
  4. Realize you don't have enough fosters lined up for the dogs, so make frantic calls until the 11th hour to make sure they're all placed somewhere regardless of fostering experience.
  5. Immediately write up the sweetest adoption bio for each new dog on RP's website despite only knowing the dogs for maybe a few hours and don't include a single negative word about them regardless of how many children the dog has already mauled.
  6. Adopt the dogs out to hippie Toronto rubes for $800 a piece, while the Texas shelters she pillaged from are begging for donations to afford dog food.
  7. When dogs are inevitably returned, put the same adoption profile up the next day, don't say anything about why the dog came back, and fish for another $800 out of the same dog (with a $40 application fee, of course).
Nicole's philanthropic adventures have already lead to two children being mauled in the face, untold heartache from people being given serious to terminally ill dogs, and numerous bites and escapes. People with zero dog experience are being handed furry time bombs just waiting to go off as most of these incredibly insecure dogs are being thrown from the desolate Texan badlands into the heart of downtown Toronto.

Anyone with a single shred of adoption know-how understands the HUGE importance of decompression. After 20 hours on the road an unsocialized dog will almost definitely be downright terrified. This is a huge stressful event for the dog, and they will absolutely need time to relax before they even begin to show their true character. A dog may appear quiet and meek out of stress, only to decompress and reveal to you a vocal, high energy, bitey, intense individual. But Nicole doesn't have time for that, these dogs gotta go make her money ASAP.

In fact, they make her a ton of money. Here's their earnings and spending in 2021, note "all other revenue" is the category including money from adoption and application fees. They're also registered as a private foundation, not a public charity.
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It seems to be pretty benign, however it turns out that 30% consultation fees are actually paid out to Nicole herself and her COO, as well as lawyers which we'll get to in a second.

This is all pretty damning, so why hasn't she been stopped? Well, firstly Nicole makes sure to delete any negative comments she receives on RPs social medias, and expunge bad reviews. If that doesn't work, she will send out cease and desist notices or libel notices to anyone who dare criticize her. In fact they even threatened legal action against a website used for reviewing animal businesses, forcing them to take down negative reviews (RP had a 1.9 star rating). The website I'm currently using to gather most of this bio actually had a bounty put on it by Nicole, offering $5000 to anyone who would doxx the author of Redemption Flaws, the exposé site.
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Accusing a shelter of killing dogs.. a shelter RP does intakes from
If you cared about this so much Nicole why don't you send them some of your piles of cash?
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Publicly bitching about clients returning dogs, even though it is a rescue's ethical responsibility to take back any dog who's a bad fit for their family.
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Photoshoot used for adoptions, photoshoot of insta thirst traps in the same setup. Thotting it up on business expenses' dime are we?
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Random grandstanding about not being a racist while being sublty racist, lol
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Suspiciously positive reviews on her IMDB
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More ranting
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Woe is me
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Bitching back at negative reviews
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How Redemption Paws transports dogs from Texas to Toronto, vs how an actual rescue org does it.
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The adoption profile for a dog with a bite history and bylaw muzzle requirement, after being surrendered by his previous fosters.
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Then there's this...
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VARIOUS SINS
  • Multiple outbreaks of distemper
  • Buying fake reviews
  • Withholding vet records from fosters
  • Nicole strictly forbids previous fosters of a dog from contacting its new foster or owners and vice versa.
  • Unreachable help from RP's emergency hotline, ghosting adopters and fosters
  • Nicole herself hanging up on people when they come to her about a dog's medical concerns
  • Adopting out unspayed dogs, pregnant dogs, dogs with heartworm, and dogs with muzzle mandates
  • Adopting out a dog with stage 4 kidney disease as "healthy"
  • Withholding treatment for special needs dogs, and threatening legal action against a foster who wanted to raise their own funds for the dog's care
  • Refusing to refund terminally ill dogs
  • Keeping an adoption listing up for a dog that has been adopted already, in hopes she collects as many $40 application fees as possible
  • Recently opening a pop up veterinary "boutique" in Toronto which allegedly stinks of cigarettes and has no licensed vet present
Thankfully Simone has been in hot water lately and adoptions have taken a nose dive after several recent exposé articles. Her latest endeavor was a plot to ship unadoptable dogs out to Newfoundland in hope the rural hicks would take them in and have a beautiful life in the country. Instead this project was immediately canned after a dog with an undisclosed bite history was booted between 10 different homes and ultimately euthanized there (by Nicole's own advice!) after failing to find anyone who could deal with him.
Hopefully the heat continues being turned up on her and maybe the feds will get involved. As of late April , there's roughly 125 dogs in foster homes waiting to get adopted. RP has no shelter itself, all dogs they receive are shipped to volunteer foster homes, and instead of focusing on housing these dogs Nicole continues to import more deranged dogs from Texas. Some might call this "hoarding".
RP has a return rate of 11% which is crazy compared to the average shelter, but it's no surprise. People are told lies about the dogs they're getting, receive no support or even blame from RP if things aren't working out, 76% of which are first time fosters often saddled with challenging dogs. Dogs are often rushed to adoption and fosters are rushed to make to a huge decision by being told they can come pick up their dog tomorrow morning at 4am in a parking lot so you better be there. Every month several dogs get returned.

Redemption Paws has seemingly never given money to the Texan shelters they get dogs from, because instead of actually wanting to solve the issue where it's happening, it's more lucrative these dogs to come to her miserable so that they have a sob story for when she flips them for cash.

Again most of this info was sourced from Redemption Flaws, an entire blog dedicated to tracking this bullshit with receipts.

Her ig: @late.july
Redemption Paws ig: @redemptionpaws
Twitter: @nicolesimone
Her YouTube miniseries, the one she bought fake reviews for: On a List
 

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Really nice in-depth write up, I have a soft spot (for lack of a better word) when it comes to dog rescue bullshit, mostly because I work in an animal-related field and have to deal with these people trying to weasel everything they can possibly get for free/exploit goodwill whenever possible. Sure, go ahead and add on 10 more puppies to your 12 PM appointment, it's not like we're absolutely fucking slammed right now. /end Vet Med grumbling

All that being said, I dunno if it really fits a thread focused on animal breeding. But I would 100% be done for an Animal Rescue Horrorshow community watch thread because god knows there's milk in that there hills (anyone remember #JusticeForNala?). Hell, I'll even help type one up if people are interested in collabing.
 
Really nice in-depth write up, I have a soft spot (for lack of a better word) when it comes to dog rescue bullshit, mostly because I work in an animal-related field and have to deal with these people trying to weasel everything they can possibly get for free/exploit goodwill whenever possible. Sure, go ahead and add on 10 more puppies to your 12 PM appointment, it's not like we're absolutely fucking slammed right now. /end Vet Med grumbling

All that being said, I dunno if it really fits a thread focused on animal breeding. But I would 100% be done for an Animal Rescue Horrorshow community watch thread because god knows there's milk in that there hills (anyone remember #JusticeForNala?). Hell, I'll even help type one up if people are interested in collabing.
There may be enough content to warrant a thread on bad animal rescues, bad rescue tactics and adoptdontshop have been discussed before in this thread

On the topic of bad breeding, there's some really smashed saint bernards out there, they look like boxers ffs
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Nicole Simone has some lolcow potential. From her Twitter she seems pretty shallow and egotistical, the kind of crazy chick that's always a few less than perfect encounters with service staff away from a full on meltdown.

I found her Youtube account for her music. It's pretty bad, I've heard better high school bands. Not sure what it is that's bad about the music, but it's probably probably the bad lyrics and probably the same 3 chords endlessly repeated. Apparently one of her songs appeared in a an episode of Out with Dad. Never heard of it, but IMDB score it 7.7 and it's been on since 2010.

There was this enigmatic comment on the Out with Dad song page.

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I'll have to look more into it.
 
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