then stop pushing your religion down our throats
I'm not, you faggot retard
almost all of the pro lifers in this thread.
Prove it, faggot retard.
you’re reaching here dude. i and many others disagree with abortions that late into a pregnancy.
Not all do, so the only thing I can do is take someone at their word that a fetus is not a child.
it becomes a child when it’s able to live outside the womb.
So 200 years ago the children who couldn't survive outside the womb, which
would've survived if born today thanks to advanced medical technology, weren't children? So our humanity is determined by technology's progress? Currently 21 weeks is the earliest a "fetus" can survive, which was not possible before. Tomorrow it may be 20 weeks, so is a child that isn't viable today not human until tomorrow?
So, that's dogshit reasoning, viability doesn't determine whether it's a child or not, why would it? Just because it is in an exceptionally vulnerable stage of development doesn't change what the subject in question is--a human.
Think about it: you're telling me that if technology advances to the point that we can determine viability down to the minute that you'll watch the baby on a screen with a timer, and if someone blends him just before he reaches "viability" you'll be okay with it? What if your clock was off? Oops, now it's a tragedy and a murder.
Absolutely arbitrary, point of viability is nonsense and is not set in stone, plus otherwise we can kill anyone who requires medical aid since they're no longer "viable". We can't grant and rescinded "personhood", it's an inherent trait we possess.
i do believe abortions this late shouldn’t be allowed unless there’s deformities/complications, a woman who willingly is going to get an abortion should not have to wait that long to get one. aborting a 3 month pregnancy is not murder
You're the same organism you are today that you were yesterday, and yesterday you were the same organism you were a decade ago, and a decade ago you were the same organism you were at birth, and at birth you were the same organism you were at 9 months in your mother's womb--at which point, unsurprisingly, you were the same organism you were 9 months prior, at conception.
There is no logical point of divergence that you can point to between the you of
now and the you of
then. Humans have inherent value, and the right to life, from their beginning. After so luckily being born and conveniently
not scrambled, you simply decided that others, including yourself at some ambiguous point, have no value until your arbitrarily chosen criteria is met.
And regardless, if it's about "bodily autonomy " at 3 months then that applies at 9 months; either the excuse works or it doesn't, because the argument isn't about viability, it's "my body, my choice". By that logic the baby could even be fully removed but then smashed with a sledgehammer before the cord is cut and it'd be fine. It is, after all, still "her body" as it was just a moment prior.
it is true though. whether or not they’re supposed to a lot of them still do. i have met a range of christians, from the CHRIST IS KANG types to people who live by the bible as well as they can. and nearly all the ones i’ve met can’t stfu about what jesus would want ME to do
Certainly not my experience, outside of Mormons. Even if they won't shut up though, at worst it's mildly annoying, you'll live.
search the terms “god” “jesus” “church” “bible” in the thread lol. don’t feel like going through and quoting every fucking post
99% of the results will be HHH saying "bible thumper" and "megachurch" bro. Only Dude Weed made an argument from Christiaity, and he barely posted at all.
There's plenty of religious arguments in here though, but they're all from adherents to Wokeism.
