Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[White_N]

The eastern republics or provinces or whatever you want to call them exist purely out of the knee jerk react of Russia after losing one of it's major puppets. It has nothing to do with planning 7 moves ahead or 83D chess or whatever meme you decide to spew senselessly. Russia wanted to hold on to a crumb of influence so they backed whoever was willing to give them said influence.

The question was how? If all the protests and resistance are really a consequence of Russia's actions, then why did they happen immediately after the Maidan? Either Russia foresaw the fall of Yanukovych and sent its agents to the eastern regions before the end of the Maidan, hence the meme about 5 D chess, or the protests had a local beginning, which was subsequently supported by Russia in the common interests of the two sides.

The region simply refused a regime change

It has nothing to do with Russian's being considered second class citizens.

For some reason, you ignored the reason I suggested. Nothing happens just like that. You voiced the tools that could be used to implement the will of the local population. If there is a military arsenal in your region, does it mean that you will disconnect as a separate state? I think we missed a couple of steps here.

 

[Elbereth]

There was no UN right after WW2 you idiot.

So, right after the war was over. But not during.

 

[UVB-76]

So tldr russians shouldnt intervene in interest of russians?

Literally nobody benefited from this intervention other than the defense industry.
I mean, I can almost read Cyrillic now but jury's still out on whether or not that's beneficial.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

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You stated the UN conducted the Nuremberg Trials. The UN does not conduct trials or tribunals.

Take the L and get back to cleaning toilets.

 

[kuuu]

Motherfuckers did it.

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Don't really know if this is relevant to this particular thread (apologies if it isn't), but I just came across this abomination and had to share it.

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The text reads: This is a monument of The Ukranian Mother
On May 12th at 18:00 we will place it in front of the Monument to the Soviet Army [in Sofia, Bulgaria].

 

[White_N]

I mean, I can almost read Cyrillic now but jury's still out on whether or not that's beneficial.

The real Chads speak Mandarin now. I, for one, welcome our new narrow-eyed overlords.

 

[Margo Martindale]

A thought I just had, though im not sure how much this plays into this

The west has been on the receiving end of hundred bof ransomware attacks originating from Russia over the past decade, including targeting vital infrustructure such as hospitals. The big one on the colonial pipeline last year really embarassed the current administration, seeing how they were able to shut down a vital resource.

My thought is that maybe one of the reasons behind supporting Ukraine is they hope to make Russia bleed a bit because of these attacks, and possibly damage their cyber capabilities somehow (requiring them to conscript younger people maybe? Sneak in spies through the fog of war and chaos?).

 

[ForTheHoard]

A thought I just had, though im not sure how much this plays into this

The west has been on the receiving end of hundred bof ransomware attacks originating from Russia over the past decade, including targeting vital infrustructure such as hospitals. The big one on the colonial pipeline last year really embarassed the current administration, seeing how they were able to shut down a vital resource.

My thought is that maybe one of the reasons behind supporting Ukraine is they hope to make Russia bleed a bit because of these attacks, and possibly damage their cyber capabilities somehow (requiring them to conscript younger people maybe? Sneak in spies through the fog of war and chaos?).

That's what we've been told, but I haven't seen any proof of the origin of the randomware attacks and it's the same people saying that Russia hacked the 2016 election in favor of Trump. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying I'm not willing to take their word for it.

 

[Elbereth]

The UN does not conduct trials or tribunals.

 

[RedDelicious]

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Fair enough, but how could he possibly have known that? Next time, please just take the L instead of presenting evidence for your claims.

 

[Hell on Earth]

i think artillery fell out of favor in some peoples minds over the last decades because of two reasons
first, aircraft do the same job, but better (drop big bombs on targets far away from your own positions)
second, aircraft easily blow up artillery (because static positions, easy to spot, hard to conceal especially when firing)
from these it follows that when you have air supremacy, you dont need artillery because you can just call in air strikes instead, and when the enemy has air supremacy you dont want artillery because its just gonna get blown apart by enemy air strikes as soon as it is located

but in this war, no side has real air supremacy. it feels like either sides air defense is stronger than the other sides air presence, so large scale air strikes are not available, which means large scale artillery use is back on the menu again

Modern air power is like a glass cannon, you cannot produce them in the 10s of thousands like in WW2 and thus, the U.S. would use their air fleet more conservatively if they go against peer oponents on land.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

With Finland (and almost certainly Sweden in a few days) making their desire to join NATO official, Moscow is now doing what it does best, threatening Finland and Sweden.

Given how the UK recently signed a deal that basically says "We'll consider Finland apart of NATO if Russia does shit during its ascension period" there's not much Russia can really do, not to mention Russia probably can't afford to open up a second front.

Modern air power is like a glass cannon, you cannot produce them in the 10s of thousands like in WW2 and thus, the U.S. would use their air fleet more conservatively if they go against peer oponents on land.

We definitely won't see these massive formations like we did in WW2, but there's a saying. The largest Airforce in the world is the United States Airforce, and the second largest is the United States Navy. A ton of US (and NATO for that matter) doctrine is assuring complete air superiority, Russia's doctrine relies on it's massive artillery pool, and NATO's relies on it's massive Airforce.

 

[kuuu]

Honk-honk.

Man, O'Reilly sure got old.

 

[Based Boy]

Rand Paul dabbing on Senate and prevents Ukrainian aid bill from being signed quickly. (Should be signed in a matter of days anyway)
He issued this image as his statement.

Also, there is video circulating on pro-Russian telegram accounts, with comments that suggests that Polish citizen was killed by Ukrainian refugees in Warsaw. Can any Polish users confirm or deny this suggestion?

Spoiler: Fighting, blood.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Motherfuckers did it.
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That is the creepiest fucking statue I've ever seen in my life.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Heat Map if all Russian SIM cards in Ukraine provided by afv_recognition_ off Instagram

No date provided

 

[Hell on Earth]

We definitely won't see these massive formations like we did in WW2, but there's a saying. The largest Airforce in the world is the United States Airforce, and the second largest is the United States Navy. A ton of US (and NATO for that matter) doctrine is assuring complete air superiority, Russia's doctrine relies on it's massive artillery pool, and NATO's relies on it's massive Airforce.

That could backfire if the war becomes a grind and not a war in which you defeat the enemy in a couple of months and you take hundreds of thousands of prisoners in decisive battles.

Of course, what i'm saying is complete fantasy because wars are now waged through proxies (cough* Ukraine cough*) and instead of grinding down your own population in nuclear war, you deliver the task of winning the war to others.

 

[Fougaro]

Motherfuckers did it.
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That shit looks like some Elden Ring monster.

 

[Negus]

fencesitting centrist bullshit

Unless you are a Slav, there is no fence sitting to be done here, just standing on the sidewalk wondering why retards are arguing so hard over two shitty lawns.

 

[Mr Processor]

That is the creepiest fucking statue I've ever seen in my life.

It's even worse when you have to fight her in Elden Ring.