Amber Heard v. Johnny Depp Legal Proceedings - "And on my side of the bed was human fecal matter."

[Otterly]

Amber heard is the living embodiment of why you don’t stick your dick in crazy.
Believing all women is as daft as not allowing women to press charges - what’s important is that everyone gets a fair trial, and that victims of both sexes have access to legal representation and refuges. Domestic violence affects both sexes, although it’s somewhat different in nature - a woman will find it harder to beat a man to serious injury and death.
On this one I believe depp. Stop fucking drinking and drugging yourself to death though, man. You don’t have the constitution of Keith woods no matter how much you admire him.
I’ve known a few battered wives, wives who are psychologically controlled, men whose wives hit them and men whose wives treat them like dirt. The immediate danger is much higher for women simply because men are stronger and able to inflict more injury. But the idea of default believing women is not compatible with justice in any form.
Being raped with a broken bottle could kill and would at the least result in injuries that would require significant surgery.
Tangential story about bottles and how when it’s nasty grubby abuse, it’s the same old story and women aren’t believed: There was a case a couple of years ago in which a Uk woman, nathalie donnoley, was raped with a spray bottle by a man (yes, one of those trigger spray bottles.) She was beaten and raped to death over several hours and had catastrophic injuries. The (rich) man who did it got off Scot free because he used the defence of ‘she liked it rough.’ The very fact that was accepted by the jury shows how much our Overton window on rough sex with strangers has changed. The jury was convinced that a woman enjoyed being raped to death with an object (this was the cause of death) and having her eye sockets fractured. Too much fucking porn

 

[verissimus]

Another great moment that is going viral:

Short version

Compilation:

And to think some moron on a YouTube comment section was telling me that this trial wasn't going to harm her reputation.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

If Depp loses this it's going to be a serious barrier in other men who are abused EVER coming forward. It's already hard enough as it is.

 

[Narr Then]

Two full recordings of arguments between them. This bitch is severely fucked in the head, they're painful to listen to.
The first one is just over an hour, the 2nd 4hr 20m. And I've forgotten how to embed YT videos coz I'm a spaz.

https://youtu.be/EdyytDKQlCc

https://youtu.be/GTFidnPbMg0

I've been thinking that he'll probably lose, but as @The Doom Slayer said, he's definitely won in the court of public opinion, and rightly so. I hope she gets her comeuppance from somebody somewhere tho, even if it isn't in a courtroom.

 

[MidnightBlue]

The bastards. What was it of?

Also, I read somewhere about the wife of the UK judge being chummy with the sun newspaper in some way, and the son did an internship or something...I thought I'd seen it here but I can't find it. Anyone seen anything like that?

EDIT- pic of behind the bar in the Australian house the day after the carnage. That phone on the right...isn't that supposed to be wall mounted and smashed into smithereens against the wall next to her head as he was pinning her up by her throat?
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Here's a breakdown of the conflict of interests that abounded in the UK trial. Dinner during the trial hosted by the judge's friend?

 

[Nader's Branch]

If Depp loses this it's going to be a serious barrier in other men who are abused EVER coming forward. It's already hard enough as it is.

Which the way things are going now, even if he loses on a technicality, people have seen the stories/coverage. He's pretty much already won because of how bad Amber fucked up.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Another great moment that is going viral:

Short version

Compilation:

Are we sure Heard's even a real person at this point?

Because she has the acting ability, emotional maturity, and facial expressions of a fucking Sims character.

 

[Allanon]

It's interesting to see the many behavioral analysts going over the trial. If you consider what they say and what evidence exists out there, especially that shrink, the likely answer to what 'really happened' is that Amber was physically abusive and Johnny verbally abusive. Johnny would get angry and say mean or cruel things to her while drunk or in some kind of rage, and Amber would react to these insults by becoming violent. They might have scuffled at times where they pushed each other, but I think the indicators mostly point to Amber being the primary source of the physical abuse. I think this makes sense, because if you look at what's socially acceptable, a man being verbally abusive toward a woman is going to be more easily accepted and therefore easily done than physically violent - especially because women are seen as emotional so verbal abuse should in theory hit harder - meanwhile, it's perceived that women can't really hurt men physically, and men have shallower feelings. Thus, it's more likely that she'd get physical when he got verbal, and both justified their actions to themselves with social norms.

That doesn't, however, indicate if Amber was abusive first and caused the situation to devolve into that, or if Johnny is just a really mean old cuss when he's drunk and the reason his exes remember him being nice and sweet is because he was in a better mental state in his life with them. Arguably, though, if Johnny's mental state degraded into anger and verbal abuse while in a relationship with Amber but not with others the source of the problem is probably Amber.

It's worth noting that social perception of abusers is incredibly skewed: an abuser is going to be an abuser in any and every relationship. You cannot be "too strong" for an abuser to abuse. What happens instead is that the abuser does what they always do, and then the person in question retaliates. It does not stop or forestall the abuse, it only turns it into a violent and tumultuous relationship like we see with Amber and Johnny. The point then is that if either or both of them are abusive, you should see it in their other relationships - their flavor of abuse would be present in those as well, just without the fireworks caused by someone fighting back. If we consider that...then the obvious conclusion is that Amber is the abuser and the instigator, because previous and possibly later relationships show signs of her physical abuse, while Johnny's other relationships don't show signs of the verbal abuse.

In short: as Amber claims, they were abusive toward each other, this is true. But contrary to her claim, it is not that she reacted to his abuse by lashing out in return, but that he reacted to her abuse by lashing out.

 

[Narr Then]

Here's a breakdown of the conflict of interests that abounded in the UK trial. Dinner during the trial hosted by the judge's friend?

Brilliant, cheers

 

[LionoRaptor]

I remember when she was on Top Gear with Jeremy Clarkson, she was out as a lesbian.she seemed so proud.
I believe that she suffered work wise because of it.

Thought it was real weird her hooking up with Depp at the time.
Now I see she is a lesbian who sleeps with men for opportunitic gain.
I mean she slept with James Franco to get the part in Pineapple Express. Olivia Thirlby lost her role thanks to that.

She got with Musk when he started getting world famous. Now she has a baby out of him.

Her most recent role was the Stand TV show and she got that by sleeping with the IT director.

 

[Lemmingwise]

That doesn't, however, indicate if Amber was abusive first and caused the situation to devolve into that, or if Johnny is just a really mean old cuss when he's drunk and the reason his exes remember him being nice and sweet is because he was in a better mental state in his life with them. Arguably, though, if Johnny's mental state degraded into anger and verbal abuse while in a relationship with Amber but not with others the source of the problem is probably Amber.

I mean here's some things to consider:

1. Their marriage counsellor said that it was a point of pride to amber that she hit him and that she would start fights in general (to try and prevent him from leaving the room). There's a video right now where someone asks about her hitting him and she smiles and rolls her eyes.
2. Practically every witness likes Johnny. That includes the people that aren't his friend or on his payroll. The one character witness of Amber, her sister, didn't do the paperwork and as such probably won't be allowed to be called upon.
3. Her testimony is absolute batshit insane, and we haven't even gotten cross examination yet.
4. She has no evidence for her serious claims. She claims broken nose, raped with a broken bottle, being dragged through broken glass and more, yet her only evidence is some pictures where the broken glass has already been cleaned up and some pictures where you have to really really squint and then still don't see a slight skin discoloration. Let alone that his headbutt that broke her nose was supposedly one day before appearing on a night show where you really can't see anything at all.
5. The lawyers started a good defense and even got Johnny to admit verbal abuse can be worse than physical (by asking about his mother abusing him) and as such already had secured their defense with that, because to prove defamation you need to prove that the person who made the claims not only knew them to be false, but also said/wrote them in a deliberate attempt to cause harm. It's really hard to prove. But with the batshit testimony, she may have given enough evidence that yeah, she really is out to get him.

I mean, even his ex wife, the one he left to be with amber heard, wrote a notarized letter to say that he was never abusive and that he is generally a kind man. Think about how kind someone has to truly be to have his ex-wife write a letter like that.

In what way has he been abusive to her that we know for sure? He destroyed a cupboard of one of his houses or hotel room on the day he lost a family member? He wanted her to do less nudity in movies and to be less ambitious and made sarcastic remarks about her being ambitious? That's abuse now?

 

[Sperghetti]

It's worth noting that social perception of abusers is incredibly skewed: an abuser is going to be an abuser in any and every relationship. You cannot be "too strong" for an abuser to abuse. What happens instead is that the abuser does what they always do, and then the person in question retaliates. It does not stop or forestall the abuse, it only turns it into a violent and tumultuous relationship like we see with Amber and Johnny. The point then is that if either or both of them are abusive, you should see it in their other relationships - their flavor of abuse would be present in those as well, just without the fireworks caused by someone fighting back. If we consider that...then the obvious conclusion is that Amber is the abuser and the instigator, because previous and possibly later relationships show signs of her physical abuse, while Johnny's other relationships don't show signs of the verbal abuse.

Yeah, this is why even though I don’t normally take sides in these things, all signs seem to just point to Heard just being batshit: People don’t tend to just mistreat one person out of all their relationships, but there are plenty of people out there who will try to drag you into a vortex of crazy and then claim that you’re abusing them and lie to everyone about things you didn’t do.

That’s why if you run across someone who claims to have been ”abused” by an unusual amount of people in their lifetime, you should probably give them a wide berth.

 

[Allanon]

I mean here's some things to consider:

1. Their marriage counsellor said that it was a point of pride to amber that she hit him and that she would start fights in general (to try and prevent him from leaving the room). There's a video right now where someone asks about her hitting him and she smiles and rolls her eyes.
2. Practically every witness likes Johnny. That includes the people that aren't his friend or on his payroll. The one character witness of Amber, her sister, didn't do the paperwork and as such probably won't be allowed to be called upon.
3. Her testimony is absolute batshit insane, and we haven't even gotten cross examination yet.
4. She has no evidence for her serious claims. She claims broken nose, raped with a broken bottle, being dragged through broken glass and more, yet her only evidence is some pictures where the broken glass has already been cleaned up and some pictures where you have to really really squint and then still don't see a slight skin discoloration. Let alone that his headbutt that broke her nose was supposedly one day before appearing on a night show where you really can't see anything at all.
5. The lawyers started a good defense and even got Johnny to admit verbal abuse can be worse than physical (by asking about his mother abusing him) and as such already had secured their defense with that, because to prove defamation you need to prove that the person who made the claims not only knew them to be false, but also said/wrote them in a deliberate attempt to cause harm. It's really hard to prove. But with the batshit testimony, she may have given enough evidence that yeah, she really is out to get him.

I mean, even his ex wife, the one he left to be with amber heard, wrote a notarized letter to say that he was never abusive and that he is generally a kind man. Think about how kind someone has to truly be to have his ex-wife write a letter like that.

In what way has he been abusive to her that we know for sure? He destroyed a cupboard of one of his houses or hotel room on the day he lost a family member? He wanted her to do less nudity in movies and to be less ambitious and made sarcastic remarks about her being ambitious? That's abuse now?

Just to be clear, I think that Johnny isn't an abuser and that Amber is anywhere from 99% to 100% responsible for any and all abuse that happened in the relationship due to being the aggressor. I was simply framing it in an objective manner that doesn't rely on believing or disbelieving one or the other or their hand-picked witnesses. Even if you choose not to believe either set of witnesses or their own testimony except when actually supported by evidence presented, the pattern of abuse - or lackthereof - in other relationships is still there to be seen, and thus I think is worth noting when trying to make an unbiased conclusion. Or just when looking at other scenarios that aren't as well documented.

Yeah, this is why even though I don’t normally take sides in these things, all signs seem to just point to Heard just being batshit: People don’t tend to just mistreat one person out of all their relationships, but there are plenty of people out there who will try to drag you into a vortex of crazy and then claim that you’re abusing them and lie to everyone about things you didn’t do.

That’s why if you run across someone who claims to have been ”abused” by an unusual amount of people in their lifetime, you should probably give them a wide berth.

It's always possible they have poor tastes and go for the abusers, but yeah, any time someone is somehow always at the center of something negative - drama, abuse, crazy, whatever - there's a good chance they're always at the center because they are the center of it.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Been watching this clusterfuck via various streams, it's been pretty entertaining. At the end of the day I am on Depp's side because despite not being perfect himself, Heard is pretty clearly just a totally psychopathic bitch. He never should have stuck his dick in her.

Realistically though this is what I predict will happen:

>Depp loses
>Hollywood, being a degenerate bizarro world shithole, keeps Depp blacklisted while continuing to give Heard roles
>Depp's image is nevertheless rehabilitated in the eyes of the (non-insane) general public
>Heard is branded a lolcow for the rest of her life with boycotts for whatever she appears in

Would like to be wrong on the first two points, but unfortunately I doubt it.

Depp just wanted to at the very least clear his name from the shit-slinging(lol) Amber did. So he’s at the very least gotten that.

My favorite moment so far was her lawyer objecting to his own question.

 

[Josterman]

The bastards. What was it of?

Also, I read somewhere about the wife of the UK judge being chummy with the sun newspaper in some way, and the son did an internship or something...I thought I'd seen it here but I can't find it. Anyone seen anything like that?

I think it was live thing or something

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Well, SNL did a skit about the trial.

That’s your warning, take it or leave it.

 

[Extreme Crusader]

Retards are waiting outside the court to get a chance to be seated in the courtroom.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I have no idea what this crap is about, buy YT keep trying to recommend videos about this trial.

Reminds me of the Don Imus thing in the '00s when he made that infamous "nappy-headed hoes" remark. MSM went on about it for days.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Camille is really getting under Elaine's skin.

 

[Whatthefuck]

Camille is really getting under Elaine's skin.

At this particular point I can't watch because they clearly discussed her prior testimony, although they shouldn't have, and they've been cleaning up her bullshit prior to cross. I can't listen to her spit lies so I'll read a transcript, but I'm LIVING for cross-examination. She's not very good on her feet. It's funny to note that she has never taken and acting class that involves improv. Like it or not, improv, helps and actor learn how to think on his feet. She's got none of that. It's obvious by the stuttering and over-emoting. Guess she should have hired the best of the best acting coaches before she stepped into this.